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Posted: Jan 19, 2013

A 5-year-old suspended for terroristic threats with a bubble gun???!!!!!!! How ridiculous is this getting? Then to question the girl for 3 hours without a parent present. Totally ridiculous---and for those on this board that state that this school did the right thing----well, all I can say is get your head screwd on straight. A 5-year-old doesn't even know right from wrong in most instances.  If that was your child, how would you feel?

Attorney: MCA suspended girl for mention of 'bubble' gun

BYT MARK GILGER

Published: January 18, 2013

Mention of a Hello Kitty Bubbles Gun apparently resulted in a 5-year-old Mount Carmel Area student's suspension last week

MOUNT CARMEL, PA — A 5-year-old kindergarten student at Mount Carmel Area Elementary School was suspended last week for allegedly telling classmates she was going to shoot them and herself with her pink Hello Kitty Bubbles Gun.

She was reportedly questioned for three hours before her mother was contacted, said Robin Ficker, 69, an attorney from Bethesda, Md., who is representing the family.

“This is an innocent child who was made to cry while being questioned for three hours about something she said that she doesn’t even understand,” he said.

Ficker said the girl, who did not have the toy in her possession at school, was initially suspended for 10 days by Mount Carmel Area Elementary School Principal Susan Nestico in what the school classified as a “terroristic threat.” The suspension was later reduced to two days and labeled a “threat to harm others.”

Mount Carmel Area Superintendent Bernie Stellar said Friday he couldn’t comment on the incident or suspension because he’s not allowed to discuss student discipline issues.

The alleged incident occurred Thursday, Jan. 10, and the student returned to school Monday, Jan. 14, Ficker said.

He said her parents do not want to discuss the incident with the media. He confirmed the girl who was suspended resides in the Mount Carmel area.

Police were not involved in the incident, according to Mount Carmel Township Police Chief Brian Hollenbush.

‘Hysterical’ reaction
During a telephone interview with The News-Item Friday, Ficker said the 5-year-old girl was playing with two friends while waiting in line for the bus while still inside her classroom and spoke about her Hello Kitty gun, which shoots bubbles.

Ficker said the kindergartner mentioned she was going to shoot one of her friends and then herself with the bubble gun so that they could all be together. Then, she was going to shoot herself again when she got home.


Ficker said someone at the school became aware of the conversation and reported it to administrators. The next day, the attorney claims, officials at the elementary school questioned her for three hours before suspending her. Ficker claimed the girl’s mother wasn’t contacted about the incident until after the girl was questioned.


“This is a good-natured little girl. And this shows how hysterical people who work at schools have become since Sandy Hook,” he said, referencing the Dec. 14 massacre of 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.


Ficker did not minimize the dangers schools must deal with, but believes those at Mount Carmel Area overreacted.


“The incident goes on her permanent record. She has been branded a troubled person,” he said. “But she was suspended for her words. She had no gun. She had a bubble-making machine.”


Ficker said the girl’s mother told him her daughter has been very upset since the incident.


Psychological testing

Before being allowed to return to school, the girl had to undergo psychological testing from an independent practitioner, Ficker said.


“The psychologist said that she posed no danger to others,” Ficker said. “I think it’s pathetic when little kids can’t play or get in this kind of trouble for using the wrong words.”


Ficker is fighting to have the incident expunged from the girl’s records and did not rule out suing the school district.


He said he plans to meet with school district solicitor Edward Greco by the end of next week to discuss the suspension.


“I think district officials need to look in the mirror here and think about their suspension policy,” Ficker said. “This child was suspended for a frivolous reason. She should never have been out of school. This is ridiculous.”


He added, “A straw shows which way the wind blows. Based on this case, I have to wonder how many other kids at Mount Carmel Area are being suspended from learning for frivolous reasons.


“The best interest of the child needs to be considered foremost. She doesn’t even know how to shoot a gun,” he continued. “The kids were just playing and using speech they pick up here and there. This is totally overblown.”


Long-term impact
Ficker said it was important for young children to be able to let their frustrations out during recess before returning to the classroom with more incentive to learn.


“I call this the Mount Carmel inquisition instead of the Spanish inquisition. They are questioning little kids for the worst possible motives,” he said. “This child was kicked out of an educational environment for a couple days. This wasn’t an innocent suspension. It will stick with the girl for a long time, and it also will have a lasting impact on her friends.


“I hope school officials realize they made a bad mistake in suspending the girl,” he concluded.

 

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and what about the one that was suspended - for using a finger as a gun?

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same concept....like this is going to stop "school shootings" or massacres! Just don't mention the word "gun" in any way, shape, or form, and all is fixed...there will never be any more shootings anywhere! yeah, right!

There was more than one finger as a gun episode - it's happening everywhere

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From another news report:

Real nuts and terrorists are winning when innocent kids are put through the ringer. Kids this age, they have fragile minds.”

That the kindergartner landed in trouble over such an incident might seem ludicrous to most, but Ficker said, “It’s not funny when a child is branded, when a child is suspended for playing with a bubble gun.”

The girl’s mother said she is also upset that she was not contacted when, for three hours, her daughter was questioned.

Ficker did not rule out suing the school district.

“We’ll see what happens at the meeting” with the district superintendent, he said.
http://dailyitem.com/0100_news/x964877896/Bubbles-shooter-5-suspended


A 6-year-old boy who was suspended from his elementary school for making a gun gesture with his hand and saying "pow" is fighting his suspension through a lawyer.

The Montgomery County School District suspended first grader Rodney Lynch for pointing his finger at a classmate, which they said constituted a threat of gun violence, according to Robin Ficker, the attorney defending Lynch.

"His record says suspended for 'threatening to shoot a student' and that's a lie," Ficker told ABC News today. "He wasn't threatening a student, he's never been around a gun, he doesn't know what a gun is, he doesn't know what killing anyone is, he had no intent to harm anyone."

Lynch, who was suspended for one school day, told ABC News affiliate WJLA that he was playing when he made the gesture, and that his friend said "pow."

Officials of the school and the school district did not immediately return calls and emails from ABCNews.com.

In a letter to Lynch's parents, the vice principal of Roscoe R. Nix Elementary School said their son had been sent to the principal's office three times on Dec. 20 for pretending his fingers were scissors and then a gun. After the third incident, he was suspended, according to the letter, obtained by WJLA.

"Yet, after meeting with the counselor and assistant principal," the letter says, "Rodney chose to point his finger at a female classmate and say 'Pow.'"

Ficker filed an appeal with the principal of Nix Elementary School seeking to have the suspension scrubbed from Lynch's record.

"We filed an appeal with the principal. They're branding him, throwing him under the bus," Ficker said. "If they don't expunge that record then we're going to court. We'll go all the way. That should not be on this meek little child's record. There was no intent to shoot anyone. He was playing. "

Ficker said that the school district had no rules or punishments outlined for students who made hand gestures at other students.

"There are Montgomery County school district regulations that say if you bring a gun or a knife onto campus, you're suspended. There is no regulation that says if you point your finger or make a motion with your fist that says what gestures result in suspension," he said.

Lynch's parents were outraged that their son would have a suspension on his record for the incident.

"I don't think the punishment fits the crime," mother Jeannie Lynch told WJLA.

"They're saying he threatened to shoot a student," said Rodney Lynch Sr. "He was playing."

Lynch was reinstated to the school on Tuesday, following the winter break. Ficker said he is awaiting a response from the school on his request to expunge Lynch's record. If the request is denied, he will seek to take it to a higher authority, he said.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/maryland-grader-suspended-pointing-finger-shape-gun/story?id=18123294

Stephen Grafton said he is upset that his son was removed from school for pretending to shoot a gun during playtime. He thinks the school's staff missed a valuable teaching opportunity.

Two first-graders were reportedly suspended for forming imaginary guns with their fingers for a game of cops and robbers during recess.

The disciplinary action against the 6-year-old boys at White Marsh Elementary in Trappe, Md. aroused controversy after parents condemned the punishment as excessive.

One boy’s father, Stephen Grafton, considers the suspension ridiculous.

“This was in no way a threatening act,” Grafton told the Daily News. “It is indicative of a school system that is not attempting to teach the problem but just removing students.”

Grafton thinks that the faculty should have used the incident as a teaching point to explain what is or is not appropriate playground behavior.

“They could simply sit down and say, ‘Hey, this is why we do not shoot at each other.’ That did not happen and that really is why we are so upset about this,” he said.

The boy’s mother, Teri Bildstein, is worried about her child’s self-esteem and academic performance,” reported local newspaper The Star Democrat.

MARYLAND BOY, 6, SUSPENDED FROM SCHOOL FOR MAKING GUN GESTURE WITH HAND

“If you tell him he is bad over something like this, how can this be the best learning environment for him?” she asked.

The gun gesture came to a faculty member’s attention after another student reported reported it. That employee alerted the school’s principal Marcia Sprankle, who decided to suspend the child for the rest of the day, according to Grafton.

The Daily News reached out to Sprankle as well as the president of the Talbot County Board of Education, Sandra Kleppinger, but did not receive a response from either by publication.

The board did, however, release the following statement:

"It is frustrating for school systems, because a complete explanation of events cannot be provided due to confidentiality requirements under the Federal Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA)."

HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL SUSPENDED AFTER SHOWING KIDS VIDEO OF HIMSELF AS 'TERMINATOR'

The school eventually removed the suspension from the child’s record, but Grafton is still concerned that the school might miss out on future learning opportunities.

“If he was running around pointing his finger at people saying, ‘I’m going to kill you,’ it would be one thing. But the actual story was that he was playing cops and robbers,” he said.

Earlier this month, another 6-year-old boy was suspended from Roscoe Nix Elementary School in Silver Spring, Md. under similar circumstances.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/1st-graders-booted-playing-cops-robbers-article-1.1241260#ixzz2IMVBJlcD

There are new terrorists in town and they are the adults that our children are in school with..This has seriously gone too far and the level of paranoia seen in these adults is very indicative of mental illness and PTSD..In any event your children are being harassed at school now for just acting like children and you should be aware..

These suspensions are part of the egregious "zero tolerance" - movement. Nobody actually knows how

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many school districts across the country adopted this simple-minded policy. It had its initial upsurge about the same time as the "three strikes, go straight to prison and stay there forever," movement.

Like that one, justice and good sense were jettisoned in favor of a harsh one-punishment-fits-all policy.

The good news is that society is coming to realize that expelling children and officially labeling them troubled after one "misbehavior" not only is very bad for the child but counterproductive and an outrageous abrogation of responsibility. That's why we're now seeing the media reporting more of these outrageous stories as the move for school districts to repeal this policy grows.

That small boy who pointed his finger like a gun and got expelled? His story hit the paper even while that county was formulating policy that will not allow zero tolerance expulsions and will specifically require schools to replace it with a nurturing approach specifically with the child's own best interests in mind.

Imagine! Schools once again being required to teach instead of toss our children.

A dem
Zero tolerance = school to prison pipeline - LeonaG
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Just the link.
Oh, yes. These cases being trumpeted are little - middle class kids and probably white.
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chose on this very mixed forum to keep it simple and not to address the dreadful way it's been been played out against many poor minority children.

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