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Let's talk issues....sm


Posted: Aug 1, 2012

Since it has been brought up that libs supposedly don't want to talk issues, let's do just that...

Issue 1: Foreign policy: What exactly is it that Romney would do different from Obama in the middle east?

Issue 2: Besides trying to kill Obamacare and therefore healthcare for tons of people, as well as lowering taxes for the rich, what is it exactly that Romney would do to improve the economy?

I'm assuming pubs have the answers to these questions as they are so sure that Romney would do such a better job, so feel free to enlighten the rest of us.

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issue #1 - sm

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Issue #1 from Mitt's site:

The Greater Middle East is experiencing the most dramatic change since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. The protests that have broken out across the Arab world bespeak a generational yearning for a better life and for human dignity, and present an opportunity for profoundly positive change. History may show that the individual who moved the Arab world from autocracy to the path of freedom was not a head of state, but a humble Tunisian street vendor.

But the ongoing revolution is doubled edged. The region is riven by tensions, and Iran and Islamist extremists are seeking to influence events and expand their control. The future of democratic institutions in the region — and the security of the United States and its allies — hangs in the balance. Mitt Romney believes that the United States cannot be neutral about the outcome.

To protect our enduring national interests and to promote our ideals, a Romney administration will pursue a strategy of supporting groups and governments across the Middle East to advance the values of representative government, economic opportunity, and human rights, and opposing any extension of Iranian or jihadist influence. The Romney administration will strive to ensure that the Arab Spring is not followed by an Arab Winter.

Immediate Post-Revolutionary States: Egypt, Libya, and Tunisia

Nations in the Middle East in transition to new governmental structures face serious pitfalls on the road to more representative forms of government. Already, destabilizing jihadist forces and Iranian-backed elements, often better funded and organized than their democratic counterparts, are seeking to exploit the upheaval to make political inroads. A Romney administration will support those individuals and groups that are seeking to instill lasting democratic values and build sturdy democratic institutions that will sustain open societies in countries that have been closed for too long. Mitt will make available technical assistance to governments and transitional bodies to promote democracy, good governance, and sound financial management. He will convene a summit that brings together world leaders, donor organizations, and young leaders of groups that espouse the principles of representative government, religious pluralism, economic opportunity, women’s and minority rights, and freedom of expression and conscience in the Arab world. And in his first 100 days, Mitt will engage Congress and relevant executive branch agencies and begin organizing all diplomatic and assistance efforts in the greater Middle East under one regional director. Unlike recent “special envoys” or regional “czars,” this official will possess unified budgetary and directive authority, and therefore real ability to create results. One official with responsibility and accountability will be able to set regional priorities, craft a unified regional strategic plan, and properly direct our soft power toward ensuring the Arab Spring realizes its promise.

Syria

The United States must recognize Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad for what he is: an unscrupulous dictator, a killer, and a proxy for Iran. For far too long, the Obama administration held out hope that it could negotiate with Assad to stop his violent crackdown on pro-democracy protestors. It even labeled him a “reformer” while he was turning heavy weapons on his own people. Mitt Romney holds no illusions about Assad’s character or about Iran’s interest in maintaining a client regime in Damascus.

Mitt Romney believes the United States should pursue a strategy of isolating and pressuring the Assad regime to increase the likelihood of a peaceful transition to a legitimate government. We should redouble our push for the U.N. Security Council to live up to its responsibilities and impose sanctions that cut off funding sources that serve to maintain the regime’s grip on power. We should work with Saudi Arabia and Turkey to call on Syria’s military to protect civilians rather than attack them. This effort would aim to drive a wedge between Assad and his military, minimize violence, and increase the possibility that the ruling minority Alawites will be able to reconcile with the majority Sunni population in a post-Assad Syria. And we should make clear that the United States and our allies will support the Syrian opposition when the time comes for them to forge a post-Assad government.

Iraq

U.S. military and diplomatic personnel have made stunning gains in Iraq, pulling the war effort there back from the precipice of defeat. The 2007 “surge” of troops successfully provided security to the population and granted space and time for the Iraqis, our diplomatic corps, and our coalition partners to establish institutions of governance. This placed the goal of a democratic Iraq allied with the United States within reach. The Obama administration, however, has made decisions that threaten to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. President Obama's astonishing failure to secure an orderly transition in Iraq and his decision to pull out all U.S. troops by the end of 2011 have unnecessarily put at risk the victories that were won through the blood and sacrifice of thousands of American men and women. The unavoidable question is whether this decision is the result of a naked political calculation or simply sheer ineptitude in negotiations with the Iraqi government. Reports indicate that our commanders in the field recommended a 14,000 to 18,000-strong residual force as the minimum necessary to carry out our transition mission. In light of these developments, it is impossible to forecast what conditions in Iraq will confront the next American president in January 2013. Mitt Romney will enter office seeking to use the broad array of our foreign-policy tools — diplomatic, economic, and military — to establish a lasting relationship with Iraq and guarantee that Baghdad remains a solid partner in a volatile and strategically vital region.

This does not show any particular.... - JTBB

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difference from the actions being taken right now by Obama. Try again.

She doesn't need to "try again" - sm

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you are not the deciding factor. She wrote the truth. If you don't like it as the moderator has stated...move on.
"She" didn't write anything...and it - certainly isn't "truth"
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She copied & pasted propaganda from Romney's website. So it's skewed truth at best, and most definitely not her writing.
Again, she doesn't need to "try again" - sm
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She clearly stated in her message "From Mitt's site". It's the truth. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's propaganda. Do you know what propaganda means?

BTW - She never said it was her writing. Did you read the post?

There is no "try again". She responded to the post. If people don't like what she wrote, well as the saying goes "That's just too bad".
Please *** - ***
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Yes, tyvm, I read the post, and yes I do know what propaganda means. I didn't insult you so please refrain from insulting me.

My point was that the comment said "She wrote the truth." No, she copied & pasted someone else's version of the truth.

I think the OP was looking for a bit of **original** thought and explanation. Anyone with *** can copy/paste and simply regurgitate what is written on Mittwit's website.

Her "writing" also doesn't answer the OP's question of how it is different (explain the differences - don't just list Romney's rhetoric). Hence, the "try again" comment.
Looks like I hit a nerve. Never insulted you in my message - sm
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Did you read my message? There was no insult, but by the looks of the ***'s looks like you insulted me, yet you wrote in the message you didn't insult me.

LOL
looks like you reported the message - ***?***
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Too bad the respondent didn't report you first. Let the games begin.
That's because there was nothing in my post to report - wanna try again?
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There was nothing in my post that would be a reason for anyone to report. Unless of course now posters are turning others in because they have a difference of opinion (i.e. read the Moderator's posts).

BTW - I didn't report her message, but it's good to know the Moderator is keeping on top of getting rid of hate speech.

Yes, round 2. Wanna try again?

I did read it - sm
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I just asked you to please get off your high horse.

I think it's funny with all the bashing going on around here, that very benign comment got reported/edited.
agree with you - nm
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Simply put.....sm - JTBB
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copying and pasting Romney's talking points did not answer the question. You do realize the OP was a question? It's obviously one pubs really can't answer right now, and for good reason. Romney hasn't bothered to tell anyone any details about anything. Vote for me! I'm not gonna tell ya what I'm gonna do, but vote for me anyway! And, unfortunately, many of you will.

How about that independent study of his proposed "tax cuts?" LOLOL
black&white - sm
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Yes, I guess it is pretty simple. You asked what Mitt's opinion is and I guess the website that runs his campaign runs is a good place as ever to start. After laying it out for you, I was clearly ready to discuss these issues and compare his position versus Obama. Too bad it had to go off into a tangent into some never-never-land about cutting and pasting. Maybe next time.

"Nothing in the world makes people so afraid as the influence of independent-minded people." ~~Albert Einstein
No... - sm
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The OP didn't ask Mittwit's opinion. They asked what the differences are between his 'proposals' and Obama's plans/programs.

If they HAD asked simply for the opinion, then yes, you would be correct.

As they did not, you are not.

Great explanation on the issues! - Liberty

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Thank you for researching this. I appreciate your work! You did a great job!

Thank you.
Liberty

Mitt's Middle East FP fails to mention, even once - the occupation of Palestine

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and the peace process that has dominated US initiatives in the region for 6 decades.

His idea of promoting democracy calls for a pow-wow to talk up strategies on how to suppress representation from Islamic political parties in the name of free expression (LOL). Reality check. Tunisia's legal system incorporates French civil law into its broader Islamic codes. The moderate Islamic party Ennahda dominated their first election. Similarly, Egypt's legal system combines Shariah law with the Napoleonic Code. President Mohamad Morsi's party affiliation is Muslim Brotherhood. Libya's interim Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril is the leader of the National Forces Alliance, an moderate Islamic alliance consisting of 58 organizations.

Romney believes a single CEO/bean-counting superhero can effectively orchestrate relations between the US, Egypt, Libya and Tunisia. ROFLMAO.

He goes on to devote nearly half of his policy to Iraq, where we went to war under false pretenses and where, thankfully, troop withdrawal has come to pass, but appears to have no policy on Afghanistan, where we have been actively engaged for over 10 years.

What an idiot!

I'm sure you remember this, but - sm

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Obama's policy towards Israel in 2008 was that Jerusalem should remain the capital, and should remain undivided.

If he thought Israel should not be divided, do you think maybe he meant that only the Palestinians should live there and the Jews should leave?
Have you been reading the Cheerio's box again? - Tel Aviv is the official capital,
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at least from an international/US perspective, so apparently you're just making this stuff up as you go along, or you believe in Romney's pandering fairy tales. Both Israel and Palestine claim Jerusalem as their capital city, which moves it into the "disputed" category. As a matter of fact, it is one of the main sticking points in the peace accords, second only to the mutual recognition of Israel's and Palestine's respective rights to exist....which is why what Romney said was so inappropriate and offensive

Only two countries in the world, Guatemala and El Salvador, have recognized it as such. Countries such as the USA, Canada and all European nations only recognize Tel-Aviv as the capital and hence maintain their embassies there. That's why Mr Bean made reference to moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. If Jerusalem were the capital, the embassy would already be there.

Not only is it impossible for Jerusalem to "remain the capital," but it also can't "remain undivided." West Jerusalem is the (Israeli) capital of the Jerusalem Administrative District, equivalent to a provincial capital or a county seat. East Jerusalem is the capital of the The Jerusalem Governate in the West Bank, also equivalent to a provincial capital or a county seat. That would make is a VERY divided city. Though they have other capital cities in different governates, the West Bank considers East Jerusalem as the capital of Palestine. There is no internationally recognized capital city in the West Bank, since it is an occupied territory.

Another bizarre statement in this post is that leap you took from an "undivided" Jerusalem to an "undivided" Israel you claim Obama advocates. This is absurd. Israel is a country. Jerusalem is a city. How did you get from one false assumption to the next? Please explain.

Ever hear of the two-state solution? Look it up. It's been the crux of US peace talk initiatives for decades. Obama supports a two-state solution based on the 1967 borders. While you're at it, read up on the history of the breakup of the Ottoman Empire, the establishment of Israel and the involvement of western nations in its partition (re: British Mandate), which originally gave the Palestinians much more territory than they have today. I even posted a map history of how these borders have changed over the years as linked below.

No one is suggesting jJews should leave Israel, though Zionists would love to see Palestinians evicted from their homelands permanently with no right of return....ever. However, most developed western nations EXCEPT the US believe Israel's belligerent occupation of Palestine is a war crime that is in violation of the 1949 Fourth Geneva convention.

http://general.mtstars.com/304895.html

http://ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/boyle.html
I love Cheerios! And I cut and pasted this from - the box
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But first, you're the one who needs to study history.

Other than wanting to be cantankerous, the only reason much of the world says (wrongly) that Tel Aviv is the capital of Israel is because of it's strategic location as a port city.

The Ben-Gurion airport is also located there because of the lay of the land.

Israel once again became the recognized homeland of the Jewish people in 1948.

Since then, Jerusalem has been the capital city. All government is located there. The Jewish people have built Israel into what it is today.

Tel Aviv, as I said, is a port city, and it looks like a port city, nothing more.

The "Palestinians" were kicked out of every Arab nation there is.

They are a vagabond tribe of people and have no homeland of their own.

On the other hand, Israel was purchased by Israel more than 3000 years ago, bought and paid for by the king, and the Israelis never sold it to anyone else, including the "Palestinians."

However, they have done everything possible to get along. They even feed and educate the "Palestinian" children, most of whom still live as vagabonds out in the desert. They pick them up in buses paid for by the govt of Israel.

The Israelis also take it upon themselves, at their expense, to deposit, via helicopter, huge water tanks wherever the vagabond tribes choose to set up camp.

I've been to Israel and have seen all this first-hand. Several of my tour guides were "Palestinians" who live as vagabonds in the desert and they're very proud of their culture and want no part of the efforts going on in Jerusalem with the bombings.

Other than all that, look it up for yourself in a trusted (older) history book and stop posting nonsense that you have no idea about other than that the liar-in-chief said one thing in 2008 and another thing more recently.

In other words, research somewhere other than Democrat Underground (etc).

From a liberal-owned and operated website:

Israel
Speaking to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee on March 2, 2007, Obama called Israel "our strongest ally in the region," and stated: "We must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs." On the Palestinian Authority's newly agreed (but short-lived) unity government, Obama said: "We should all be concerned about the agreement negotiated among Palestinians in Mecca last month."[87]

Obama denounced former President Jimmy Carter for meeting with Hamas representatives in Egypt. Obama said, "We must not negotiate with a terrorist group intent on Israel's destruction. We should only sit down with Hamas if they renounce terrorism, recognize Israel's right to exist, and abide by past agreements."[88]

In June 2008, Obama became the first presidential candidate ever to publicly back the traditional Israeli position that Jerusalem remain forever undivided under Israel rule. "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided," Obama declared on June 4, 2008.[89][90] Days later, he said, "obviously, it's going to be up to the parties to negotiate a range of these issues. And Jerusalem will be part of those negotiations."[91]

On a July 2008 world tour focused on trouble spots for U.S. national security interests, Obama met with Israeli president Shimon Peres, prime minister Ehud Olmert, opposition party leader Benjamin Netanyahu, and Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas and prime minister Salam Fayyad. Obama reiterated that Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel, but that territorial disputes regarding that city and elsewhere needed to be resolved without direct U.S. involvement. "That’s an issue that has to be dealt with by the parties involved, the Palestinians and the Israelis, and it is not the job of the United States to dictate the form in which that will take, but rather to support the efforts that are being made right now to resolve these very difficult issues that have a long history." On the same trip, Obama said, "The state of Israel faces determined enemies who seek its destruction, but it also has a friend and ally in the United States that will always stand by the people of Israel."

Obama's selection for his Vice-Presidential candidate, Joe Biden, has stressed that Obama is strongly pro-Israel. In a speech in September 2008, Biden stated "I am chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. I give you my word as a Biden, I would not have given up that job to be Barack Obama's vice president if I didn't in my gut and in my heart and in my head know that Barack Obama is exactly where I am on Israel. And he is... I promise you... we will make [Israel] more secure."[92][93]

In February 2009, following his inauguration, Obama announced that the United States would boycott the 2009 Durban Review Conference due to concerns that, like its predecessor, the 2001 World Conference against Racism, the conference might become a platform for anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.[94] The decision was praised by the National Post, a conservative newspaper, where columnist Jonathan Kay stated that this decision "signifies that – contrary to overheated campaign propaganda contained in GOP smear-campaign email blasts – Obama is hardly soft on the Israeli file."
Yeah, buddy. - It’s a cantankerous world we live in, all right!
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I didn’t realize Mr Bean had taken to publishing his foreign policy musings on the sides of cereal boxes. Who knew?

Strategic port city? LOL. The entire world, including the US, recognizes Tel Aviv as the capital and locates its embassies there out of a sense of self presevation and for security reasons, on the austute assumption that if they moved them to a disputed location such as the western division of Jerusalem, they would be jeopardizing life and limb of their embassy staff, not to mention the risk of starting a Middle East vs Wild, Wild West World War III. The airport site selection is there for the same reason, as a preventative measure to keep passengers from being blown up on a regular basis, should they try to locate it in Jerusalem.

I, along with peace negotiators from all over the globe, have no interest in wasting precious time on yet another history rewrite out of the winger camp, that appears to rely heavily on a repetitious “port city” mantra, but I will take a few moments to comment on some of the more blaring "highlights" of your post.

Might want to try your “kicked out” theory on the 11 million Palestinians living in the 53 diaspora host countries that have yet to expel them. Of the 53, the following countries with either Arab majorities or where Arabic is an official language, continue to house significant numbers of Palestinians, as they have always done since the moment Israel's "homeland" was injected into the region by western colonial masters, but has yet to be recognized by large swaths of their regional neighbors. As you can see, Palestinians reside in essentially every corner of the Arab World:

1. Palestine. Yes, the entire Arab population of the West Bank and Gaza is considered a “diaspora” host country, and will be for as long as it under an illegal occupation.
2. Jordan
3. Israel. Yep. Even in the Jewish Homeland, Arabs comprise 17% of the population OUTSIDE the occupied territories.
4. Syria
5. Lebanon
6. Saudia Arabia
7. Egypt
8. United Arab Emirates
9. Qatar
10. Kuwait
11. Iraq
12. Yemen
13. Libya
14. Eritrea
15. Tunisia
16. Algeria
17. Pakistan
18. Turkey

The repeated racially tinged vagabond tribe snipe is precisely the bellicose Romney-esque rhetoric that caused him to flunk the diplomatic statesman test during his recent moonwalking tour and led to his leaving Israel with his tail tucked between his legs.

News flash. Thousands of kingdoms, nations and cultures have come and gone since the days of Biblical and modern-day monarchies, a fact that tends to undermine legitimacy of your the king’s purchase argument. I have no time to devote to a lengthy discussion on the lunacy of how hard the war criminals have tried to get along with their occupied, repressed populations, with whom they remain in a war of starvation and attrition as we speak.

I am touched by the “feed the children” argument. Too bad their ongoing demolition of Palestinian homes and neighborhoods have left no kitchens in which the kids can sit down and partake from the spoils of their generosity. Remembering the smallpox-infested blankets trick the civilized settlers played on the Native American tribes, I suppose anything is possible, but you’ll have to excuse me if I think that is a load of (in Harry Reid’s words) “poppycock.”

Careful, dear. Your cultural superiority comes shining through with your repeated “vagabond tribe” references, a trait the media has well established as being totally unacceptable when it comes to diplomacy. You do realize the Jews cherish their own shared nomadic tribe heritage, don’t you?

Buses paid for by the government? OK. I suppose that’s the only way some Palestinians trying to make it to work on time can bypass the myriad of checkpoints that often have lines that takes several hours to negotiate....a kind of rush-hour traffic phenomenon reserved especially for West Bank residents, and one that Israeli EZ-taggers and HOV lane riders can bypass with ease. Israel is not beneath exploiting slave labor to boost their GDP so clownish US candidates on fundraising tours can cite it in speeches laced with cultural hubris. Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren't the German Jewish populations transported to the concentration camps in buses paid for by the government? Must be where they got that idea from.

I haven’t been to Israel, but I did have a chance to visit Rafah in Gaza while living in Syria years ago. You probably have heard of the place, where they have been reduced to tunneling underground and smuggling food and medicine from Egypt. Those vagabond tribes sure do have a spunky set of survival skills and elaborate systems of adaptation, don’t you agree? I didn’t have the luxury of a tour guide while traveling from Syria through Israel and into Rafah as a dual US-Syrian citizen by marriage with an American passport, but I can tell you the Arabs (whose regional populations outnumber the Israelis by leaps and bound) who helped make that happen for me are every bit as proud of their culture as your Israeli friends are of theirs.

Because I have a doctor’s appointment, I’ll have to skip your references for the time being. Perhaps I’ll pick this up where I’ve left off later to see what else your rewrite has in store for me….or not. If not, I’d like to say I sure have enjoyed our conversation thus far. Ciao for now.
Forgot to mention - your embassy statement
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"If Jerusalem were the capital, the embassy would already be there."

I'm not at all interested in what the world view or opinion is concerning the issue, so let's just agree to disagree as they say.

Jerusalem has been the capital city since 1948, no matter what the "official" statement is - and even the president said as much in 2008 when he visited there.

If you were to travel to Israel, you'd understand more about it rather than relying on what you read or accept as "official."

No, the US embassy is located in Tel Aviv mainly because it's the largest city. But don't be fooled, the strategic location has much to do with it. And that's all I'm gonna say about that.

And BTW, here's some info about the president's stance on Israel in 2008:

"Any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel's identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognized and defensible borders. Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided."

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-06-04/politics/obama.victory_1_obama-s-middle-east-delegates-and-superdelegates-israel?_s=PM:POLITICS

Mitt's Middle East FP fails to mention, even once - the occupation of Palest - Another Alphabet Sister with talking points

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Pretty easy to see you did not bother to watch Romney's entire set of speeches throughout the ME, and only bothered with your BO talking points. Lib posters on this board so biased and uninformed, but they make up for their lack in this area, by their unbridled hatred of anything not Liberal and their over the top intolerance. BTDW - that is not a virtue or a complement.

AGAIN, BTW, ROMNEY DID NOT APOLOGIZE TO EVERY SINGLE MIDDLE EASTERN FOR EVERY JOT AND TITTLE OF AMERICAN HISTORY. NOR DID ROMNEY BOW AND SCRAPE LIKE BO. HE OPENLY PRAISED AND EXPRESSED HIS LOVE FOR AMERICA AND ITS CITIZENS.

You hate it here so much, be glad to buy you a 1-way ticket to Somalia...hear it's lovely this time of year...or maybe you'd like Syria better.

issue #2 - sm

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There's a lot to the economy. Here's just part of the plan:

The dynamism of the American workforce is our country’s greatest renewable natural resource. Jump-starting economic growth therefore requires that American workers have the skills that are needed to unleash their potential. One of the troubling features of the American economy today is the mismatch between the skill set of the American workforce and the requirements of the employment market. The gap between the two lies at the heart of our jobs crisis.

Over two centuries American workers have repeatedly proven themselves to be the most productive and the most capable at adapting themselves to changing economic conditions and embracing new technologies that come on stream. During that time, the American economy has also been the beneficiary of the extraordinary contributions made by the best and the brightest from around the world who have chosen to make our country their new home. This combination has propelled the American economy to heights envied across the world. It can do so again.
Obama's Failure

President Obama’s approach to human capital is, here as elsewhere, to let government take the lead. The federal government has been pouring money into retraining programs. In fiscal year 2009, the sum total was $18 billion for 47 separate employment and job training programs administered by nine different federal agencies. Seven of the 47 programs account for three-fourths of the spending, but all except 3 of the 47 programs overlap with at least one other program.

Only 5 of the 47 programs have had their results thoroughly evaluated since 2004. According to the General Accounting Office (GAO), “little is known about the effectiveness of most programs.” It also turns out that the little we do know has not been particularly heartening. A 2008 study found that one of the five, the Workforce Investment Act Adult and Dislocated Workers program, produced only “small to nonexistent” results.

This is the kind of government waste, political horse-trading, and administrative chaos that has brought discredit on the federal government. We cannot afford to squander taxpayer money in this way. President Obama’s job retraining record is a live, ongoing demonstration of why federal spending in so many areas needs to be scaled back.
Mitt's Plan

Mitt Romney sees two important objectives that America can pursue immediately to build on the extraordinary traditional strengths of its workforce. The first is to retrain American workers to ensure that they have the education and skills to match the jobs of today’s economy. The second is to attract the best and the brightest from around the world.

Retraining Workers

Mitt Romney will approach retraining policy with a conservative mindset that recognizes it as an area where the federal government is particularly ill-equipped to succeed. Retraining efforts must be founded upon a partnership that brings together the states and the private sector. The sprawling federal network of redundant bureaucracies should be dismantled and the funds used for better purposes. One particularly promising approach that Romney supports and believes states should be encouraged to pursue is a system of Personal Reemployment Accounts for unemployed individuals. These accounts would facilitate programs that place individuals directly into companies that provide on-the-job training—as governor of Massachusetts, Romney helped create just such a program.

Eliminate redundancy in federal retraining programs by consolidating programs and funding streams, centering as much activity as possible in a single agency
Give states authority to manage retraining programs by block granting federal funds
Facilitate the creation of Personal Reemployment Accounts
Encourage greater private sector involvement in retraining programs

Attracting the Best and the Brightest

To ensure that America continues to lead the world in innovation and economic dynamism, a Romney administration would press for an immigration policy designed to maximize America’s economic potential. The United States needs to attract and retain job creators from wherever they come. Foreign-born residents with advanced degrees start companies, create jobs, and drive innovation at an especially high rate. While lawful immigrants comprise about 8 percent of the population, immigrants start 16 percent of our top-performing, high-technology companies, hold the position of CEO or lead engineer in 25 percent of high-tech firms, and produce over 25 percent of all patent applications filed from the United States.

Raise visa caps for highly skilled workers
Grant permanent residency to eligible graduates with advanced degrees in math, science, and engineering

Again....nothing new....strike 2 - JTBB

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I find it very interesting that... - sm

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There is no original thought or extrapolation in the 2 responses received. Just regurgitation of the propaganda from Romney's website.

No politician is perfect. But I don't trust Romney any further than I can throw him. Something about that guy just isn't quite right...
So there is a politician that you trust? - Trigger Happy
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Look...I don't trust either Romney or Obama, but Obama had his turn and I see very little recovery. I can't say that Romney will do a better job, but I know Obama won't do a good job so I'm gonna have to go with someone different. If Romney wins and he sucks, I won't vote for him next time around. If our president, congress, etc. don't do the job we want, we need to stop voting them back in.

I also don't understand Obama as far as his humanitarian efforts. We went into Libya and also got Mubarak out of Egypt and yet he stood by when Iran was killing their people and he stood by when Syria kills their people. So why Libya and Egypt and not Libya and Iran? I personally think we should have stayed out of all of that mess and let them handle their own affairs...but why Libya and Egypt and not Syria and Iran?

There are just so many things about this current administration that I don't trust. No transparency...which was promised. I don't trust Romney, but I don't trust Obama more.
It takes 8 years... - sm
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to see the effect of a presidency. We are now living in the mess that GWB created.

Knee-jerk reactions and constantly changing administrations cause more harm than good. A first term president only has 2 years of actually doing anything - the first year is learning the job & getting the "lay of the land", the last year is spent campaigning for re-election. I personally believe presidential terms should be 6-8 years.

Obama at least has a ROUGH idea of what it is to be a 'normal' person in today's society and to have kids growing up today. Romney's are completely out of touch and have no clue. They are elitist and are snobs.

While Obama's programs may not be the right solutions to issues, at least he has tried SOMETHING. Everyone else has just sat there for years complaining about how bad things are. Good or no, at least he is TRYING.
Just sounds like more - Trigger Happy
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jealousy of rich people. I get so tired of this rhetoric from the left. Apparently Obama's daughter's won't have any idea of what it is to be normal either. They grew up with wealthy parents and now their father is the pres and they live in the WH. Would you bash them for living a privileged life because you seem to have no problems bashing others for having a privileged life. Obama's life growing up was FAR from normal. So I really don't buy that he gets what it is to be 'normal.' The guy lived as a young child in another country with a Muslim stepdad and his mom to move to the US and live with his white grandparents in Hawaii. Far cry from normal if you ask me.

If anyone is out of touch and a snob, it would be the Obamas.

If your logic is correct about this being W's fault...then Clinton's success would be Bush's because what was going on during Clinton's administration was left over from what Bush did during his...but I'm sure you would disagree with that assumption wholeheartedly even though you said yourself it takes "8 years to see the effect of a presidency."
No I agree that Clinton - rode Bush's coattails
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Just like Bush rode Reagan's. Reagan was HATED when he was in office, and has since become one of the most beloved presidents.

I don't see just the good in democrats and bad in republicans - unlike how republicans view the world. I am actually able to give credit where credit is due.
Same here - - ZvilleMT
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I don't think you can separate everyone into two neat little groups (dems and pubs) and say this group is this way and that group is that way, no exceptions.

I think Clinton did a good job as president - as a person, he's a bit of a sleaze, but as a president he did some really good things.

I have voted dem when I thought they were going to do some good and voted to reelect them when they did good work - I voted for Zack Space (D-OH) twice and routinely voted for whoever was running against George Voinivich (R-OH).

So not all of us see the bad in dems and the good in pubs - some of us just take a look at whether the person will do some good for the country.

Again, you are not the deciding factor. There is no - "strike 2"

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Can't even admit when you're wrong. She wrote the truth. There is no strike. Would you like to "try again"? No, didn't think so.
the author of the question is the arbiter on the answer - ...
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copy and paste does not an answer make.

Romney's "economic policy" - sm

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as presented here spends half its energy slamming Obama, the proceeds to rebrand programs already in place. Federal retraining programs already issue state block grants and have workforce retraining programs that develop Individual Employment Plans. One I have discussed at great length here recently is the SCSEP proram for seniors, which partners with NGOs, government and private sector businesses for skills assessment, enhancement, mitigation of employment barriers, subsidized paid on-the-job training job placements that offer host agencies tax incentives, where applicable, to hire and retrain, then moves workers into unsubsidized positions contingent on meeting prescribed benchmarks.

What accounts for the number of "overlapping" (agency) programs is target population cohorts and an effort to streamline services delivery by providing multiple shared resources while avoiding duplication of programs already in place across agencies.

There is something new in his plan. That would be the "conservative mindset" part about "dismantling bureaucracies" (AKA slashing funding to existing programs) and using the monies for "better purposes"....like bankrolling ever expansive tax cuts for the ubers while transferring the tax burden onto the middle class. Yeah, that'll work.

Brilliant!

Romney's "economic policy" - Beats the hell out of Obama's failed policies

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"dismantling bureaucracies" - had you even bothered to research this at all, Romeny was specifically referring to the duplication of something like 400+ federal agencies, ALL DOING EXCACTLY THE SAME THING and wasting billions in the process. Yeah....slashing those programs would work. Now, get off that high horse; you're getting lightheaded as evidenced by your post.
If you could tell me more about this, I might - listen (as the post above SM
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yours does BTW) but it sounds like you are just regurgitating Romney's nonplan plan. He refuses to give more information so I understand how you would not know either. I do know, however, that if you want to know more, follow his track record, which is really not encouraging to me as a middle classer. He endorses "what's his name" economic plan, and there is nothing in there for anyone in the middle class, working poor, or seniors. It hurts us tremendously. Until he or any republican admits that the Bush tax cuts for the upper class are a bad idea at this time in this economy, I don't consider them at all. Anyone who believes that we should slash programs for the poor and seniors instead of ending those tax cuts for the rich is a real loser in my book.
Try actually reading something besides - the Communist weekly
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BTDW - there is plenty out there on Romney's plans/ideas, but as per the usual on this board, those too lazy to do their own research demand it from others. Guess they think it makes them look tough to demand things from others they are too lazy to do themselves. We all know you have a computer and access to the internet...try using both and get over yourself. Your posts and insults are the usual banal, so yesterday Obama worshipper garbage.

Can we talk about Syria? Please Mr. Obama... - sm

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we have stood by and exhausted all possible avenues and innocent people are still being slaughtered every day. We need to step up and do something more than what we are doing now. What? I don't know, but we cannot just stand by any longer like we did so many years ago.

Like this? sm - JTBB

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/01/us-usa-syria-obama-order-idUSBRE8701OK20120801

It sounds like this has been in place for a few - VTMT

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months or more but is just being made public. More to come I am sure. There is no room in this world for tyrants that murder their own people in cold blood.
Yeah...I've been reading different...sm - JTBB
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articles for a while with no clear-cut evidence of anything going on, but hinting that way. While I think what's going in in Syria right now is terrible and I really do feel for them, we as a country are not stable enough right now to be able to take on the responsibility of their civil war. In other words, I think what we can do is limited right now.
Completely agree (OMG!) - ZvilleMT
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Especially with their new threat to use chemical weapons should anyone interfere. I'm usually against backing down, but we can't continue to be the policemen of the world.
He!! hath frozen over! - Trigger Happy
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I think we agree on something. Woo hoo...I knew there would eventually be a common ground there. ;)
Good...then you should also agree...sm - JTBB
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That we shouldn't jump on the Irael band wagon concerning Iran for the same reason?
Yup, sure do (OMG!) - ZvilleMT
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If Israel is attacked,that's one thing, but if they initiate the attack, that's a problem. They are our allies, but there have to be limitations - we don't want to get pulled into WWIII unless absolutely necessary.
I agree too. Wow. ;) - Trigger Happy
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Interesting....

Would love to know more about how the FSA - acquired surface-to-air missiles

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and am really curious to know what kind of intelligence support might have been involved. The boody butcher's days are numbered.

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