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Posted: Dec 23, 2013

Have never been to this church, know about it and the pastor is well known in America. I have read reports about their standing, singing with band, loud blaring music because the auditorium is huge for almost an hour and cameras all over the place filming people close up I guess for the TV crowd. I am so not into this. I was brought up wearing dresses to church, music was soft and that is how I would want if I went to church. I have mostly pants I wear all the time. I have said do not care to go so now the mother says the "kids" are wanting me to, they love their church, they want to show me around. Would you go and just suck it up? I absolutely hate to be almost pushed into something I really was not aware of until today and my trip is this weekend.;

It would be nice if you went. - sm

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The way I see it, it's only for a couple hours. You're already a Christian so it's not like you'll be with a bunch of people of a different faith. This style of worship is not my bag, either, but sometimes it's fun to try a new style, especially since it will obviously please your friend. It seems like she really wants you to be a part of their celebration.

I used to go to a mega-church - in Chicago area

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I remember after discovering it how much I wanted everyone I knew to see what a wonderful place it was. My beliefs have changed now (no longer would describe myself as an evangelical), but I do remember fondly the Christmas Eve services. They were so well done. Good message, good music (yes, loud, but hey no louder than Trans-Siberian Orchestra!). I know how "the kids" feel. Do it for them, if you can. You may even enjoy it. I think CVS carries earplugs if that wuold help.

I think it's okay to tell your friend this isn't your cup of tea - sm

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I really think it's possible to tell her you really appreciate the invitation, but you're not comfortable being so demonstrative, and are most comfortable worshipping according to your own custom. Then, smile sweetly.

I agree - sm

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I would be uncomfortable, too. The worship style is not my cup of tea, either. Nor is being in huge, loud crowds like that.

That is the issue, too, as I see it. It isn't anything about the faith. It is the big, giant, noise-making aspect of it. I have been to or would attend services from any other faith on earth rather than that. And found value in them. The only thing I see coming from the mega-church is a migraine.

I think that demanding that you attend with them is quite rude. It implies that there is something wrong with you or your faith, as if they have a corner on the holiness market. They are unlikely to have any insight into that, unfortunately.

Sadly, if it were me, I would have cancelled my trip by now.

It's what? An hour or two out of your day? - Be a nice friend and just go.

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nm

a true friend wouldnt make her friend uncomfortable asking them to - do something they clearly dont want to do

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be a friend? are you serious?

There needs to be compromise in all relationships. - Yes, I'm serious.

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No need to be so snarky.

Maybe I'm just a different type of person. I'd rather try a (possibly fun) new experience and make my friend and her kids happy rather than be a stick-in-the-mud 'cause I wasn't brought up to worship that way. I would personally see no need to be so blatantly selfish and self-absorbed in this situation.
The Difference - see msg pls
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First of all, they're not husband and wife where one must compromise because of the nature of the relationship and the full-timeness of it.

The difference here is that the woman politely told her she wasn't wanting to go, and the friend brought out the big guns and said "the kids" wanted her to come. And I'm sure she asked her more than twice, they're probably bugging the bejesus out of her.

No means no in my book. I don't like when my friends bug me to do something I really don't want to do, like sit through a movie I know I won't like, eat a food I know I don't like, participate in any activity that I don't want to do, whether it's a card game, board game, whatever. It's not being rude not going along; it's being rude when you bug the person.
I agree. Also, the OP is their guest, and they - should want her to be comfortable.
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Absolutely - If the friend...
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It is perfectly acceptable for the friend go on ahead and go to the church if they'd like--they're under no obligation to the OP, except to make sure she's comfortable on her time off and her holiday.

Rude, rude, rude, rude to keep pushing. The initial invite is more than acceptable, but the pushing part is NOT.
not their guest actually - intrusive
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she invited herself to visit them

she is staying in a hotel not in their home

she only wants to visit long enough to take them shopping

she isn't interested in celebrating the Christ in Christmas by going to church

no, I wouldn't call that a guest
Do not see where she invited herself - Karla
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She said she and her friend talked about her going to visit. The visit is not for Christmas so how can she celebrate the Christ in Christmas as you put it? My hubby when traveling to see his brother always stays in a motel and not with him and his wife. I see no problem with that like here with her staying in a hotel. Some people are more comfortable like that.
I'm trying to figure out whether your judgments outnumber - your assumptions
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No one is ever obligated to do something they don't want to do. Ever. Your fourth sentence is blasphemous in its judgmentalism. You don't know the poster, and that's not what she said. Shame on you!
blasphemy is asking children to decline church - wheres_my_rock
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attendance in favor of going toy shopping with a visiting fairy god mother.

You never, ever, ever put a child in adult situation - just ask Dr. Phil. Children are born greedy. It is the parent responsibility to work in the child's behalf and teach them right from wrong, nurture from nature.
Never taught that. - Karla
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Blasphemy-
the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk.
No one ever said taking shopping instead of church - Interesting
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People usually do not stay in church all day Sunday. Never was it said going to shop instead of church. People should read carefully.
where she said chose between church and shopping - wheres_my_rock
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from a post "I am planning on walking Sunday to shop with the kids, Monday was another walking day for the place they want to go, I hear the parking at the megachurch is far, far away. I am not trying to make excuses but my feet probably by Monday will be given out and then what. .....

I think I will tell her, ok choose which 2 you really want to do and let me know. Cannot do them all."

chose between church and shopping.
My, my, that was for the mother to choose - and the guest could chill out
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The guest stated she had feet issues, might not be able to make all, not have the kids choose, my goodness! The family can do all, just choose what they would rather her to do, a) go shopping, b) go to church or c) to the Monday adventure. Ok, choose 2 out of a possible 3 for the guest, now do you understand? The family can do everything, the guest does not want to. No one has ever said children do not go to church, instead go with a friend to shop.
Choose between HER going to church or shopping - not them.
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THEY were going to church no matter what. SHE was doing 2 of the 3.
no one is asking the kids to decline church, wmr - sm
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what are you talking about?
you really had to take that shot - sm
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There is nothing blatantly selfish or self-absorbed about this post or this poster. Sadly, I am not surprised that someone out there would take a personal shot at the OP over this.

Tell me, snarky respondent, have you reflected on just how blatantly selfish and self-absorbed it is to expect a houseguest to worship in a style they are not comfortable with?
she is staying at a hotel - not a houseguest - NM
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plus she invited herself.

There is something blatantly selfish about how she wants to "visit" them as long as it does not inconvenience her.

She is NOT a houseguest.

So when she called them to say she had some time she could come visit them this weekend, if at that moment in time they told her "great! you can come to church with us!", would she have said, "oh, no, I'm not signing on for that. I just won't come" and then we would not be having this conservation.

I think the whole thing smacks of lack of healthy boundaries.
The whole thing - also "smacks" of..
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2 girls for the summer, eye surgery that didn't happen (but did.. or did it??), and soo many other wacky stories that don't really make sense. And these people keep responding to her. On and on and on.....
Exactly what I had been thinking - sm
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Took thewords right out of my mouth.
I agree, smacks of - sm
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not making any sense.

1. Before it was said the woman should not have the girls over because she did not know them well enough and why would the family let them visit her.

2. This woman is saying she is going to visit the family.

Postings contradict.

not religous myself and feel like you do. I would rather have my eyeballs - poked out with an ice pick

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but I guess you could consider it a cultural experience, as one does visiting anything strange in a new city. Laugh to yourself and come back and tell us all about it :)

Are you the same poster that would rather have a hot poker in your eye - than watch Honey Boo Boo? ROFL

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Your post cracked me up and reminded me of that.

You gave me the first laugh of my day.

Nope, that was me (someone else). :) - Merry Christmas! nm

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I would choose the hot poker over either of them - And those Duck people

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They are all just really pathetic money-collecting entertainment. Two of them pretend to be reality, while the third pretends to be worship.

The issue here - Is not so much religion...

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This is an issue of that fact that you politely declined, and they're bugging you. I think it was unfair of your friend to put it on the kids---kind of like a guilt trip. That would tick me off more than standing in a church of noise and hoopla, which I never intend to do.

It is partly the religious thing, too. They should not force you to worship in a way that is not comfortable for you. If they really are insisting, I would tell them that you'll catch it on the TV when it airs!

If they want to - Show you around...

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...they can "show you around" on a non-worship day or time, if you have time for that in the schedule. I think going on a little tour after-hours is harmless, even immediately just after the service if the doors lock or something after that.

Me, I like to worship in my own way, and these evangelical types don't get that. They want everyone to worship their way.

Not a Christian, but I would still go for the sake of - L&L

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friends and family. They would like it, it wouldn't kill. I was brought up in a very conservative E&R church, we had no music or demonstrations in the sanctuary, but a lot has changed in the last 50 years.

Unless you really have something other really pressing to do, what's a little bit of your time to make someone else happy.

Change in the church- not sure about that but let - me run down the other reasons

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Someone said to cancel. We are talking out of the state, found out last night about the church thing around 10 p.m., leaving 4 days hence, round trip airline and hotel prepaid. Went to church with them 1 time previous where we both lived (they moved) and then was not anything I was used to with church, a "rocking" band with songs I had never heard of, no Rock of Ages, no His Eye is on the Sparrow, things I can sing along with. I don't care if others worship donkeys but I have heard plenty about this particular church they now attend, things I am not comfortable with. Some have called it a cult following. Their pastor is in the news with not so favorable things said. I copied and pasted some information earlier about the church, sent to the mother, not sure if she is just gullible but her church, not mine. I have Saturday a day of visiting only with the family, perhaps can get my point across then. I hate to hurt feelings but do not like being put on the spot either.

Answering the one saying self-absorbed? Had already made plans, told the mother about taking the children shopping that Sunday. This is a family who barely skims by. Told the kids to make their lists because I wanted them to have some presents for Christmas. Told them they could spend $75.00 apiece, that is 4 kids. Last I heard, day before yesterday, there was 1 present under the Christmas tree. Let's see, self-absorbed? The mother had told me about a place they would like to go and that was planned for Monday because THEY wanted to go. Wish it were a 1 fee entrance but for all it will cost me around $250.00. Self-absorbed? The mother loves Olive Garden. I can find nothing there really that I like but I told her we could go, at my expense. That is 2 adults and 2 children for that. The younger children do not really care for Olive Garden that much so the daddy can keep while we're out. Self-absorbed? The mother also said we could eat at Golden Corral on the day out Monday. Let me see, that is 4 adults, 4 kids, at my expense- remember the mother wants this and I am trying to do things for her and the family.

I did not delve into what I have read about this church, its pastor, etc. but self-absorbed? I have saved for awhile to do things for the family, always thinking about what they might like, not me. Not only am I not into a band, loud type music with the drums, etc. in church but also so much swirling going on around this church, not into cults either.

The change in the church from original - poster and some answers to you

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Question - anon

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If you feel this family is so self-absorbed and pushy, and puts you on the spot for everything, then why are you friends?
I never said they were self-absorbed, and - never said constantly put on the spot
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Pushy, never said. I have only been in their church once, probably about 2 years ago, different church then and did not really enjoy. Where you are getting self-absorbed is probably from someone calling me that because they thought should take the time, 1-1/2 hours or so and spend the Sunday morning with them.

good lord - next year for no matter what

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No matter what next year, don't go. You're flying in to visit them and TAKING THEM OUT??? To places they decided you should take them??? That isn't how it works. You're the GUEST. AND you're giving them presents? These people are taking you for a ride. Tell them you're not going to church and you'll see them when they get home. If you want you can say you'll watch them on TV.
Next year, let me say this and then I am out of here - OP
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Having some time off after Christmas, I told them I was coming down for a few days. I am staying at a hotel, do not want to wake up at 5 in the morning to small children, past that. Yes, I am taking them out, yes I am buying the children presents for Christmas. This family just skims along and you cannot be taken for a ride if YOU decide to do on your own and that is what I WANT to do, buy gifts, take them where they want to do. They did not ask for anything, except for me to go to their church on Sunday. I asked THEM where they wanted to go. They have no money to take me anywhere. I bought the kids Christmas when they lived here. I can buy them Christmas now, no difference. If anything, I told the mother she could NOT go shopping with us because she always says, no they don't need, no don't ask for this so she can stay home while the kids and I go. The only and I mean only problem here is the church deal. I am not bullied, I buy what I want, I go where I want and I told them I was coming down there on my own. End of story, time to get to work.
oh okay then - but dont go to church with them
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You're staying at a hotel so it shouldn't be a big problem. Tell them you'll see them when they get home. You are not obligated to give any reasons.
red flags - intrusive
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you told them you were coming down for a few days; you don't say they invited you.

You are pushing yourself on them.

If it were me, I wouldn't have time to be bothered with you. You are not the kind of "friend" I would want to expose my child(ren) to.

"I am not bullied" but it seems you are the one doing it.
To red flags- whatever - OP
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Always one in the bunch.
Agree - SM
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It never pays to try to explain something to someone who is determined to argue. It makes me question the age and intelligence of the person/people who get some kind of kick out of being a general pain to society.
apparently age and intelligence has little to do - with bully posts on this board
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You are case in point.
Hmmm - in your other post
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You were complaining, yes, complaining about the same things -- now it's great and you're God's gift to them?

Geez, pick a stance already.

You remind me of that poster who had issues with her doctors not communicating properly (?) a few months back... are you that person?
Yes, that same person and the Wicked Witch of the - West, all the above
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I have no clue what you say I am complaining about? God's gift to them? Your words. Don't know about that either. Having said that, are you sure you not the person who has issues with the doctor not communicating, whatever that means. Your posting is confusing.
My post is confusing? - sm
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Do you know how to write a complete sentence?

Do whatever YOU want to do. It is very rude - to be pushy after an invite decline.

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If they want to overcomplicate it, that's their deal. But do what you want.

It's really rude to not accept someone's decline of an invite. Period.

Nothing is more annoying - Than someone pushing

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Nobody should continue to push you, that's the real problem here. Your friend is being downright rude asking you more than once. I'll give someone twice---as a double-check: "Are you sure you wouldn't like to join us? We'd love to have you."

This is YOUR vacation, your holiday and you owe nobody--except your own family who deserve the best of this trip.

If she's trying to lay a guilt trip on you (which is how I see it when she brought up "the kids"), then that's not very Christian of her.

Kind of reminds me - see msg

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I was out of my own town in another town about 3 hours from my house, for a couple of days. While there, I wanted to spend some time with a very good friend. My trip happened to fall on Passover, and she invited us to go to a Passover dinner at someone else's house. My family is not Jewish.

Long story short, I didn't really want to go, but if I wanted to spend time with my friend, it was the only way to do it. So, I did go, but the next time around, I am definitely checking the calendar to make sure my trip doesn't fall on Passover.

I really did not enjoy it. I was at a huge table with 20 people I didn't know, and sat there for 2 hours while everyone did their reading thing. I did read---I did not feel it was against my Christianity to do a reading since I wasn't worshiping, but I'll never do it again.

I had made a decision to go, but I KNOW if I had told my friend that I didn't want to go, she would NOT have pressed me on it. She would have respected my wishes, gone on to the dinner by herself, and given me a key to her house since we were staying overnight, and that would have been the end of the discussion.

Please don't let her bully you into anything. She is putting you in a position where YOU might have to be rude. Just tell her you have plans with your family and you want to maximize your time off with your family. Standing around in someone else's church listening to their music and watching them worship is NOT spending time with your family, it's appeasing her.

I'm sorry this happened to you. You are in a tough spot, but hold to your guns. If she keeps up, don't make anymore plans with her in the future, at least not on a worship day!

From original poster, going to spend time with - her family, not mine

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but she and I had already talked about plans for this Sunday. Nothing, nothing said until last night, late around 10 about going to church on Sunday. Not only do I not enjoy their services (went 1 time before, loud music I did not know the first word of) but this was not the plan and now I am leaving to visit in 4 days. I have plans to stay in a hotel, not staying with them as I really like to relax and never want to put others out. Let's put it this way, I have some feet issues. I am planning on walking Sunday to shop with the kids, Monday was another walking day for the place they want to go, I hear the parking at the megachurch is far, far away. I am not trying to make excuses but my feet probably by Monday will be given out and then what. I did not even think about my being there on a Sunday because here recently her car was on the outs and she had not been attending. I think I will tell her, ok choose which 2 you really want to do and let me know. Cannot do them all. That probably would be a good start.

You don't have to justify - Anything

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It matters nothing except that she is trying to guilt you/push you into something you don't want to do.

You don't have to even bring up your feet. I think you rightfully don't want to go to her worship. I don't see where having to compromise even comes up. You don't want to do her worship thing, and I think you're trying to give her the upper hand here, by letting HER choose which 2.

I think you let this friend kind of bully you. She sort of blind-sided you by telling you what you're doing.
Bully me- I have not spent a day with her - OP
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in well over a year now. I am hardly the bullying type. She has not blind sided me but rather after she and I talked and settled on the shopping, then last night this was brought up. I could be just perfectly honest and say, I think your church is a cult, I hate loud music in a church sitting, I love singing along but none of your music is what I grew up with, everything from what I hear is ear splitting, TV cameras running from one person to another recording the service for people watching from home, believe in wearing dresses to church and I have none, and YOU know I don't care about having my picture made, too far to walk. Do you think that would be better than having her choose 2 out of the 3?
Not saying to pick a fight with her - see msg
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...I wasn't suggesting you say all those things to her. I never said to blame the pastor, or to say all the other things you said. I just said (or words to this effect) that she was incorrect for pushing you when you already told her "no." If you want to give her a reason, you tell her that it's not your style of worship. You don't have to say anything bad about her style of worship at all.
I think nearly anything can be labeled a "cult" - Linda
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depending on what criteria you use, and I think to do so is a cheap shot. If you don't want to go, by all means don't. You don't need to explain beyond "No thanks."
The word cult is something I have heard used - but others are using in regards to this church
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I not only have read and heard about the church for some time, even prior to the family moving there, but also have read about the pastor. I copied and pasted some information about the church several months ago and sent in email to her. I have never brought up the word cult to her and I seriously doubt she has heard about it.
that's just creepy - sm
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Why is it your business what church she goes to and why would you email her with information about the church where she goes? It is her choice where she and her family goes to church.

Mind your own business.
Guess she could tell you the same - Can do what she wants
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Like mind YOUR own business. She can do what she wants.

Only go if you want to. - Don't feel forced to go

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Can tell you right now if you do not want to go you will not enjoy it. I'm like you. My sister begged and begged me to go to her church service when I went back one year. I hated every minute I was there.

Simply tell your friend you don't mind waiting until they come back from their service (you'll sleep in go shopping). On the other hand if you don't mind wasting an hour or so of your day and don't care if you get bored for an hour or more (my hour turned into 3 hours there so she could show me around to everyone). She loved it, I did not. Now I just tell her to go on to her service and I will be there when she returns.

I simply told her I know how much she enjoys here church, but I'm not into that sort of thing. Tell her you don't need "saving". Sometimes they think they are going to "save" you by bringing you to church. Could be more disastrous and you end up regretting her for conning you into going.

I'll also bet you any money her "kids" could care less whether you go. Usually when someone wants something so bad they will tell you things that are not true to get you to do what they want.

I say only go if you want to. If you do not feel comfortable don't go.

Break in my work but don't feel forced to go - am thinking along with your thoughts

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I also had the thought I would be willing to say the kids had not said 1 thing about their wanting me to go. Like someone said, could buy earplugs but if I want to go to church, want to go to a church that I like, not your church perhaps but I like being comfortable. I am really old school, always wore dresses/skirts etc. to church. Never wore pants. I know times have changed but in my mind the church thing has not. I do not attend funerals in pants or shorts and have seen some attend in sandals. Yikes! Reminds me about a funeral I went to several years ago. Sitting between my father and a young relative of the deceased. The youngest brought a soda in and popped the top during the service and took a swig. My, my- you should have seen the look my father gave her. I am old school but he was older school! I know her church is important- to her but not to me. I am thinking probably will give her a choice like you do kids. I have 3 choices here, pick the 2 that you want. I know what the kids want more and it sure would not be for me to go to church but rather the shopping and the other adventure on Monday.

Fellow MTers, over and out now. Thanks to most of you - for your insight and helpfulness

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on this issue. Everyone who celebrates it have an extremely Merry Christmas and a very happy and prosperous New Year!

Might be good for a laugh, if nothing else. - Megachurches are so lame. nm

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They're Downright Scary - nm

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xxx

Tell me a little more about what you find - scary, never knowingly been

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and did you go, did you know when you went that it was considered that or just how did you find out? How scary?

just curious - JC

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Are the "kids" the 2 girls who visited you last summer?

What church IS this? - Now I am curious

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Now I am intrigued. I would love to look up this church on the internet.

Anybody recognize it?

she never said specifically but it could be Lakewood - in Houston

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I think somewhere along the line she mentioned the family moved to Texas.

I think it could be that church in Texas - sm

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or it could be hundreds of others.

The ppl here are not thinking of what was posted before.

1. When the 2 girls were coming to visit this woman most stated and thought she did not even know the family.

2. This person is saying she is going to visit the family.

Contradiction much?
oh well that was before she kept the girls for - two months in the summer
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I don't think you've been following very closely.
I thought I knew the story here - sm
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1. Woman asked for advise and ppl said she did not know the family and how would they let their children visit last summer.

2. Woman here saying she is visiting the family today.

I would think she knows the family if she says she is visiting. What am I not following here?
Answer - sm
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It did appear at first that she did not know the family. That led to the concern about where she was getting the girls, why, etc. Then she said she knew the family. You must have missed that part. It would have been easy to miss since it was buried in the posts.



Cannot have it both ways - Sm
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First Lady was having two girls over for vacation. The ppl here said why mother let them go, they said lady did not know.

This lady said traveling to visit family.

Person here said was two posters same

Summer said lady did not know family, winter this lady visiting the family?
You need to read the original threads - It is the same woman
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We are trying to explain to you that what you keep saying is incorrect. That is NOT what happened.

The first woman originally sounded like she did not know the family, but then admitted that she did. That was months ago, before last summer.

This woman is the same person, visiting that same family, wherever they moved to.

The story is very confusing because the OP changes it constantly. You would have to read all her posts for the last year to piece it together.



She knew this family all along - Last summer and now, same family
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NM
Many many here said she did not know - Sm
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I remember how ppl tallied about her, like she was a pedophile last summer. One said she might put the girls in the basement, another said they would call the police on her if they knew who she was. I remember she said older woman. I think ppl here were just nasty to her.
That was talked about her - NM
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to be clear - no one used the word police - except the OP
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Someone did say if they could figure out where the messages were coming from, they would report her - to whom was never stated. Later, the OP is the one using the word police, so I'm guessing you are the OP still just trying to keep things stirred up.

yawn.
Writing style is the same, so - my guess as well. (nm)
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So many posts yet you remember exactly - SM
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what was said. I am thinking perhaps you were responsible for talking about turning her in, otherwise how could you remember a sentence out of so many.
Just a guess, but maybe she looked it up? - Try the archives
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Nothing like a nice ad hominem attack to get your point across.


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and I am one who works straight through without taking time out of the day. I know I can get Netflix for them, they have their Ipads, can get some crafty things to make and some games like puzzles and the lot. I know this sounds like a lot to me but I don’t want them bored to tears. We are planning trips while they are here but then the work days are still hanging around in between. Any other suggestions some of you mothers have for the time you have to be at the keyboard? ...

Two Grown, 4 Children Visiting San Antonio LaterApr 21, 2015
The kids are ages 8, 10, 11 and 13. I want to go to the, believe it is called City Walk (?) and would like anyone who might live there or know the city some information on a nice place to eat, not the most expensive but not McDonald's either. Total of 6 traveling so also on the lookout for a hotel that might fit that many. TIA. ...

President Is Visiting His Homeland Of Kenya.Jul 24, 2015
Let's hope he doesn't go visit his father's grave and get more "inspiration" to destroy America. ...

Easy Lunches, Snacks, Etc For Visiting KidsMar 17, 2013
Hopefully some little friends of mine, 9 and 11, will be spending some time with me this summer and I need some ideas about quick and easy lunches and snacks for them. They are not picky at all, like vegetables as well as fruits but it has been years since I had to plan for smaller ones like these and would appreciate any input you would have regarding this. TIA ...

Mother-in-law Spent 2 Months In Cyprus VisitingNov 01, 2013
My mother-in-law was born and raised in Cyprus.  She came to the United States 58 years ago and is a United States citizen.  For years she has visited Cyprus and they were known to an average country.  My MIL was known as rich when she visited and she would help them out.  Her family showed respect to the United States and thought it was wonderful to live in the United States.  The last time my MIL visited her family was 6 years ago.  She just got back from her tri ...

Instead Of Visiting Disaster Scene, Obama Lectures Louisiana OnAug 20, 2016
Though he could not be bothered to interrupt his Martha’s Vineyard vacation to actually visit those devastated by historic flooding in Louisiana and beyond, President Barack Obama’s Justice Department did manage to send the disaster-plagued state’s leaders a refresher course in anti-discrimination law. The federal agency drafted a 16-page document laying out in excruciating detail the hoops aid workers must jump through in order to avoid running afoul of the law. Any organizations ...

Red State, Blue State, No Healthcare For You State.Feb 28, 2014
If you live in a red state and are unable to afford health insurance or find the costs to be outrageous, you have no one to blame but your elected officials.  It is a shame, but you can change it by voting the bums out in the next election. I am fortunate enough to live in a very blue state and have reaped the benefits of affordable healthcare. ...

State-by-state Figures On Number Of Americans Who Stand To Lose Unemployment BenefitsMar 02, 2010
US Labor Department releases state-by-state figures on number of Americans who stand to lose unemployment benefits without congressional extension of program.WASHINGTON – The U.S. Department of Labor today released state-by-state figures on the number of individuals who will lose their unemployment benefits in the coming days if Congress fails to extend unemployment insurance benefits.If Emergency Unemployment Compensation and full federal funding for the Extended Benefit program are not e ...

"He Won't Be Visiting The Country Of His Birth."Jun 23, 2013
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State-by-state Map Of Climate ChangeJun 13, 2012
The below link is to an article that has a map showing the temperature changes by state since 1970. This is not necessarily a political issue in itself, but our response to it is. I live in one of the states that is showing the most change. Due to my way of life, I have been very conscious of the weather changes in my lifetime. I first started noticing thunderstorms in January. We should only be having blizzards in January--it was kinda fun. Then we started having tornadoes in September an ...

When Did Having Friends Become Such Work!?!?!May 24, 2011
I have three very close friends, two of whom I have known my whole life and one I've known since the sixth grade.  Whenever it's someone's b-day, the other three take her out to dinner.  We started doing this a couple of years ago.  It's sort of a girl's night out we do four times a year.  We go out to dinner and sit and talk forever.  Anyway, the friend I've known since 6th grade has all of sudden decided she wants to bring her husband ...

To All My Ageless FriendsJul 06, 2011
To all my "ageless" friends!! ...

Can You Be Friends With An Ex Spouse. Aug 16, 2012
my husband (soon to be ex) has said some things to me that are hurtful.  He complains I don't clean house well, I have let myself go and hateful to his mom.  I tried to fix the things that he said needs fixing.  I stepped up on the house cleaning, lost a little weight though I still am not skinny.  I have tried to be more inviting to his mom, apologized for any wrong doing, took her on trips, tried to make her feel welcome in my home, fixed meals for her but he was still ...

Just Friends Vs Emotion Affair. Dec 22, 2011
I found some text messages on my husband’s phone to this other woman.  They ready “hay miss you shouldn’t have to work so hard”  and “You working behind a counter is not right” and “Hay a friend of mine sent me this and said it was the answer to all my problems”  A picture of a man kicking a woman out the door.  I confronted him and his explanation was that “Hay miss was him addressing her as a Miss.”  And the p ...

Ever Felt Like You Lost Many Friends At Once And Don't Know Why? SmMar 29, 2010
I don't know what happened... one week I was getting texts and calls and emails from lots of friends, then last week nothing... I had to really reach out to get in touch with anyone and lots of people just haven't returned my calls or texts.  As far as I know I haven't changed anything.  Maybe it is just a strange coincidence and everyone was extra busy or in an anti-social mood?  I feel like I sound childish about it but it has been probably 5 people or so?  I ...

Words With Friends On FacebookApr 24, 2012
I wanted to play Words with Friends with Facebook  on my PC.  I get to the point where it wants to load friends but then it says retry later.  My question is can it be played on a PC or do you have to have a Ipad or Iphone.  My daughter said maybe my computer is too old.  It is only five years old.  I got addicted to that game on a friend's Ipad.  I do not play any other games.  TIA ...

Friends Of Hamas And HagelFeb 20, 2013
Rand Paul. He goes on the record as being concerned about Hagel's "ties" to Friends of Hamas. Don't senators have better sources of information available to them?   ...

Loner As A Child And Now Hardly Any FriendsFeb 06, 2014
I spent hours while growing up doing things I enjoyed. I spent hours at my house in the attic looking through big storage trunks that contained so many interesting things to me. I also loved going to a small stream close to my house to watch and collect things like minnows that I tried to grow into a frog, salamanders. Now as an adult I have not really one close friend, no one that I talk with on a regular basis. Am married and that is a close relationship, not lonely because I keep busy with my ...

Please Pray For My Friends Daughter Feb 12, 2015
She graduated from nursing school last summer and went camping.  A few days later she was in constant pain and severe muscle weakness where it was difficult to get out of bed.  After months of testing, a muscle biopsy showed she has Calpainopathy, a rare form of muscular dystropy.  She is in her early 20's.  Her father doesn't have anything to do with her or her siblings, and he refuses to believe she has this debilitating disease, saying she is lying.  He has ...

Democrats Are The Best Friends Big Business Every Had.Oct 13, 2015
contenders at Tuesday's Democratic presidential debate will say they're the toughest on big business. What they won't say is their own policies favor big business, big time. Bernie Sanders, the self-described socialist who's been attracting big crowds and gaining ground on Hillary Clinton in polls, gave a glimpse of this over the weekend, telling "Meet the Press" how he plans to compare "my consistency and my willingness to stand up to Wall Street corporations, big corpora ...

Long Lost Friends...Apr 30, 2017
Have you ever lost touch with someone you used to know and really liked for a friend, but so many other things like career, family, etc., just made it difficult to get together very often until eventually those times became less and less? It happens, I know, probably all too often. I met a gal in college and we managed to stay in contact for only a few years before life just got so much more busy for the both of us. The years went by. Now, I'm feeling just terrible after finding out she bat ...

Happy Christmas To Friends And FoesDec 24, 2009
For the progressives, we have the health care - hey, it's a start.  We have a lovely family in the WH. Things are lookin' up.  To the loyal opposition - We may disagree and bicker, but the board would not be complete without ya.  Blessings to all.   ...

Alcoholic Friends ... Advice NeededJan 31, 2010
I have friends (a couple) who, it is getting very obvious, are alcoholics.  I don't see them for months at a time and recently met them and a few others out at a pub.  - The woman, about a third into the evening, became belligerent and was bascially screaming their personal business out for a few hours and ruining the evening for the rest of us and those around us.  (It's kind of complicated why I didn't leave, but too long to get into.) Anyway, long story sho ...

Pretty Clear What Bergdahl's Friends Are Up ToMar 25, 2015
EXCLUSIVE: At least three of the five Taliban leaders traded last year for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl have tried to plug back into their old terror networks, a government official familiar with the intelligence told Fox News, describing it as an attempt to "re-engage."  The new allegations come as Bergdahl now faces desertion charges, and as the one-year deal governing the former Guantanamo detainees' supervised release in the Gulf nation of Qatar is set to expire -- at the end of May.&n ...

Huckabee And The Duggars--Friends ForeverMay 22, 2015
Back in January, Huckabee questioned the Obamas' style of parenting while praising the Duggars, telling PEOPLE: "I've pointed them out as an example of something that's wholesome and wonderful." These Republican candidates sure do keep the subject field diverse. ...

My Back Seat Driving FriendsOct 25, 2015
I have a friend and she has 3 kids. I love to take them places and enjoy activities but there is a huge barrier and I do not know how to handle this. I have driven for years and years, never had an accident much less a major one. I have had probably 4 tickets in my life, years ago also, most for speeding, none in the last say 10 years. The woman and her daughter are terrible back seat drivers. I can truthfully say I have never had people to ride with me that act like they do. Yesterday I took th ...

Husbands Best Friends Son Is Turning 2. We Need Gift Ideas. Jun 04, 2011
This friends family has always treated my husband like one of their own, so it is sort of like an uncle finding a gift for his nephew.  It has been 30 years since we had a 2 year old so we are feeling challenged about what to get.  This is family #2 for the dad and mom who are ages 51 and 49 and both have children out of college.  He is an only child of two avid shopaholics, so needless to say he has been indulged and spoiled since day one.  What do you get for the ...

A Sampling Of Obama And Holder's Friends - Scared Yet? (sm)Aug 15, 2012
Nice bunch of guys, no? ...

Nine In Ten Of My Liberal Friends Are On Some Sort Of Psychiatric Medication.Feb 21, 2017
I don't think this is a coincidence.  They aren't shy about talking about it, either.  I mean, I'm all for medication to treat an illness, including mental illness, but I wouldn't broacast it.  What happened to pride?  It's like having a mental illness or a disorder is a badge of honor.  I am all for being oneself and having confidence, however, that used to mean having ethics, integrity, working hard and helping others.  Now it means being ...