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State-by-state map of climate change
Posted: Jun 13, 2012
The below link is to an article that has a map showing the temperature changes by state since 1970. This is not necessarily a political issue in itself, but our response to it is. I live in one of the states that is showing the most change. Due to my way of life, I have been very conscious of the weather changes in my lifetime. I first started noticing thunderstorms in January. We should only be having blizzards in January--it was kinda fun. Then we started having tornadoes in September and October, when we really only had them in June/July before. We frequently have winters now with little to no snow where we used to put little orange styrofoam balls on the antennaes of our cars so we could find them after a snow storm. Lately, we have many trees that are dying due to changes in water levels. One year the trees so wet they drownd, the next year being so dry, they die from drought. The trees are being attacked by insects that have never before been in our area and we are now restricted from hauling firewood between counties and parks. I have seen the devastation to the rancher's livestock herds due to lack of pasture and cost of grains for feed. Our farmer's have often proudly declared that the "US feeds the world" with our agriculture. When I think of this, and then the consequences of climate change, and all the young people I am close to, it makes me very afraid. We all need to address this issue--if it is not too late already.;
thanks for this - two left feet
[ In Reply To ..]It's a shame that climate change has been turned into a political football due to big money, corporate interests, and campaign funding. Not to mention the war on science waged by the Bush administration.
Climate change is always ongoing - Only God controls the climate.
[ In Reply To ..]Mankind has an overly inflated opinion of itself to think it causes climate change, IMHO.
that's science for you - nm
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LOL! ...and thunder is the angels bowling? - nm
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Ridicule is not only unkind, it's also the lowest form of wit. - nm
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Anyone? - let's talk!
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A couple of problems with this. - CC
[ In Reply To ..]First, did you ask yourself why the year 1970 was chosen as the base year? We have climate data going back much farther than that.
Second, did you ask yourself what any of this really means?
There's no doubt that the climate changes. That has never been at issue. The question has been whether the climate changes are the result of natural cycles or caused by human activity, and unfortunately the scientific evidence seems to strongly favor the natural explanation.
By "scientific evidence", of course, I mean the evidence that hasn't been disgracefully faked and jiggered by scientists who happen to have a huge financial interest in "proving" that human activities are "causing" climate change.
you are wrong about the scientific evidence - sm
[ In Reply To ..]The carbon record obtained from ice cores demonstrates an acute rise in a particular carbon isotope associated with human activity. This acute rise dates back to the beginning of the industrial age. This is incontrovertible and is directly associated with increased temperatures. It's a pity that so many think this is a theory or an opinion.
I'd be interested in hearing from the one "dislike" - nm
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two dislikes to this? - ridiculous
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addendum: I'd be interested in hearing from the 5 dislikes - c'mon, speak up...
[ In Reply To ..]Talk to me about what is dislikable about my post. Thanks.
Just as I thought: - silence
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You think it's just that simple, do you? - Then please explain....
[ In Reply To ..]...why this matter hasn't been put to bed and why there continues to be a raging controversy in the scientific community on this question.
In other words, a controversy not among people like you gullible "warmers", but among the real experts.
how funny - warmer
[ In Reply To ..]No, I don't think it's "just that simple". Nor do I deserve to be called gullible any more than you deserve to be called ignorant.
There is not exactly a "raging" (lol) controversy in the scientific community. The only reason this matter remains a jump ball is because of the various corporate and economic (and therefore political) interests that have a stake in controlling which way the wind blows on this issue, and the sad and sorry people who think politics is science.
Case in point: your inability to even pose a question to me without assigning "people like me" a snotty title.
You could be more wrong, but it's difficult to - see how you would accomplish that.
[ In Reply To ..]1. Human emissions of CO2 gas into the atmosphere comprise less than 3% of total atmospheric CO2 emissions, with over 97% coming from natural sources. Since water vapor is responsible for 99% of the ' re-radiative ' effect (greenhouse effect), a fact that NO climate scientist refutes, human CO2 emissions are responsible for less than 3% of less than 1% of the total greenhouse effect, if even that much.
2. 31,000 scientists in the natural sciences have signed a statement that has backed the "warmers" into a corner that they've not yet managed to work their way out of.
3. The paleoclimatic evidence is clear: Climate change was much worse and much more cataclysmic before mankind ever appeared on the scene.
4. The cyclical nature of the much more minor climate changes we see now (compared with #3) has been documented to well before the "machine age".
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By comparison, "warmers" make "birthers" look like geniuses. - nm
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Not a "birther", but they do have some very disturbing evidence that I wouldn't care - Warmer evidence has just about evaporated. nm
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what a cute little post - warmer
[ In Reply To ..]And thanks for the insulting salutation. For those intersted in what 31,000 scientists means, I submit the following link: www.ecogeek.org/ecogeeks/1654.
The criteria for involvement in this petition was an undergraduate science degree.
Now, before I bow out as you recommended, I would remind you that talking points are not research, and research is nothing if not comprehensive.
From analysis of ice core gases, we know that temperature and CO2 have been closely related for over 420,000 years. This can be explained by looking at the way the earth was tilting relative to the sun. Fluctuating, warming, cooling - always with a stable relationship between temperature and CO2.
This relationship has been stable up until now. We now have 35% more CO2 in our atmosphere, and ice core analysis demonstrates that the carbon isotope is different from that which would come from natural sources. Thus, Houston, we have a problem.
Now, better roll up your sleeves and get to work. And try to remember that you really, really need to know what you are talking about BEFORE you insult someone else.
When you do something other than quote questionable statistics - without proving a causal relationship, I will.
[ In Reply To ..]Until then, ***
People with nothing intelligent to say usually resort to - insults. nm
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I have to admit, you cracked me up! - warmer
[ In Reply To ..]I enjoyed the joke, thanks for a good laugh. (It was a joke, right?)
The info came the National Center for Atmospheric Research:
https://spark.ucar.edu/visit
This belongs on the gab board. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]It's hilarious to watch you, who have absolutely no scientific credentials whatsoever, attempt to prove something that the entire community of climate scientists has yet been unable to prove.
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I think the OP was articulate about why she posted here - jmo
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Climate control is a political topic for discussion - Moderator
[ In Reply To ..]I see no reason the topic can't be discussed on the political board.
Did you? - Look a little further
[ In Reply To ..]Perhaps if you looked at the whole page:
(Here, let me help you)
"We looked at average daily temperatures for the continental 48 states from 1912 to the present, and also from 1970 to the present and found:
•Over the past 100 years, the top 10 states warmed 60 times faster than the bottom 10 (0.26°F per decade vs. 0.004°F per decade), when looking at average mean temperatures. During this timeframe, 45 states showed warming trends, although 21 were not statistically significant. Three states experienced a slight cooling trend.
•Since 1970, warming began accelerating everywhere. The speed of warming across the lower 48 more than tripled, from 0.127°F per decade over the 100-year period, to 0.435°F per decade since 1970, while the gap between the fast and slowly warming states narrowed significantly; the 10 fastest warming states heated up just twice as fast, not 60 times as fast as the 10 slowest warming states (0.60°F vs. 0.30°F per decade). Over the past 42 years 17 states warmed more than half a degree F per decade.
•The states that have warmed the most — whether you look at the past 100 years or just the past 40 — include northern-tier states from Minnesota to Maine and the Southwest, particularly Arizona and New Mexico. Places that have warmed the least include Southeast states, like Florida, Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina, along with parts of the central Midwest, like Iowa and Nebraska.
Okay--Now lets do some thinking. Hmmm, when did we start using major oil? With the advent of the gasoline engine? When were the first gas engines put into use? What is the byproduct of burning fossil fuels? What happens to the atmosphere when the byproducts go into the atmosphere? How much did the earth's population increase in the last 100 years? How many cars were in existance 100 years ago versus today? Power plants? Now what does the bible say about caring for the earth and ourselves? Please share with everyone. Thank you.
Excellent post - I'm so glad someone else gets it - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Every point you made is right on spot. All this has done is to make money for Algore and his faux carbon credit scheme.
There are more scientist out there with the knowledge and experience that have proven exactly what you just wrote.
Thank you for posting. Glad to see I'm not the only one paying attention and awake.
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