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Will there be violence surrounding Casey Anthony not guilty verdict?


Posted: Jul 9, 2011

I live no where near Florida but the local people here are outraged that this woman walks from a crime she obviously committed because of 12 jurors who didn't know what reasonable doubt was.  This is the general consensus of talk radio people who were calling in to give their feelings on the case.   

Juror 3 said she did not want to speculate but went on to speculate she thought George might have had something to do with it (?!?}.  Guess speculation may have come into play with her decision and raised reasonable doubt although this was not in evidence.  That was one of the caller's opinions and it made sense.

Another theme of people who called in is how do you not report a missing child to get help from the police or if she drowned as alleged by defense, how do you not call authorities?  How does the jury find this person not guilty.

With this attitude of people who aren't even close to where the crime was committed, do you think this outrage will die down or will there be someone who acts out on their anger at the system (the jurors or defense team)  or against the Anthony family, particularly Casey.

Also I heard in the state of Ohio there is a law proposed that if you don't report a child missing within 24 hours or a child's death within 1 hour it will be against the law. Who knew there needed to be a law for this? 

I see trouble ahead based on local talk radio.

 

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No doubt about it. Once Casey Anthony is seen - in private life problems will follow

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This is by far the most hated woman ever and the thought she got away with murder of a small child bothers many. I think it would be best to keep the jurors names undisclosed too.

all I gotta say is thank goodness she does not - live near me

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and thats all Im gonna say about it.

re: lives near me - OMG

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please! You insinuate you'd take physical action if you saw her? What? Would you beat her up? What if she fought back and got the better of you?!

I think its a very, very silly and childish reaction to want to get physical... I've heard soooo many people say this that I'm fed up.

We all know she's guilty! She'll get hers in the end. She's gonna have to live in the world KNOWING she's hated! It isn't for us to retaliate like vigilantes! The system once again failed us as citizens! The prosecution failed to do it's job well!

Please! Thank goodness she does not live near me??? hmm. childish. Next we'll take to burning people at the stake again or public linching and stoning.
If Casey lived near me, I would ask her for good brand - of duct tape and garbage bags.
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I would give her some heart stickers too for her craft projects. Maybe ask her for the best places to party in town and who she would recommend as an attorney if I got into legal trouble.

I wouldn't want to get Casey angry at me by physically attacking her. People who get in Casey's way tend to disappear only to be found in skeletonized form months later. If I were her family or friend prior to Caylee's disappearance I would change the locks on my door.
Did you ever think - SM
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that the poster might be in fear of being hurt herself? I wouldn't want her living close to me either. If the place where she resides go up in flames, or if someome decides to set off a bomb at that residence there could be others hurt. I don't want her anywhere near me either. Mostly because I saw enough of her snotty expression and her eyebrows going up and down in that so called flirty smile on TV. I can very easily live my life without seeing her again, anywhere.

That mob outside the courthouse should be wearing duct tape with - a heart for when ductomom gets out.

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message conveyed.

Perhaps you need to change the channel - do reasonable people exist

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There was a SLEW of REASONABLE DOUBT. Since the PROSECUTION has to PROVE the case, and they did not, what was the jury left to find Casey Anthony guilty for? LYING. SO that's what they did.

I'm amazed at the outrage, it's ludicrous. And all the dodo-heads jumping on the bandwagon. This is NOT a country where vigilante justice is welcome or condoned. She was innocent until found guilty. She was not found guilty (which conversely does NOT make her innocent).

People need to tend to their own homes and check themselves. The rampant stupidity is truly discouraging.

hey, maybe you could let her watch your kids - nanny services

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she did it, everyone knows it, and talking how she was proven innocent does not make that so.

The only rampant stupidity is from the 12 jurors who let her go.

She was not "proven innocent." She simply was not - proven guilty.

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There is a difference.
Casey Anthony was proven guilty. - Jurors failed to see.
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A motive or method of death need not be established by the prosecution. A person's behavior surrounding a suspicious death should be considered.  To not report the child missing and to fabricate lies about where the child was is suspicious.  To lead the police on a wild goose chase is suspicious.  Who does this and why?  A guilty person.   


This was a very strong cirumstantial evidence case with the accused character out there for all jurors to see.  To Juror 3 who said prosecution did prove method of death, IT DIDN'T NEED TO BE PROVEN.  Mistake number 1 for juror 3.  Who knows if the jurors actually seriously debated this and if they read the rules, they might have seen Casey Anthony was proven guilty within the guidelines of the law. 


 

Did you watch the trial. There was no "reasonable" doubt - only speculation George may have lied.

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George was thrown against the defense fan and even though there was NO EVIDENCE presented that there was a drowning or of incest, the defense managed to confuse not so bright sequestered jury members who wanted to go home, so they found one of the most notorious child killers free.

The idea of "reasonable doubt" is subject to interpretation. That is where the justice system failed Caylee Anthony and let her murderous mother free.

To complicate mattors, the whole crazy family contributed to doubt, but never REASONABLE DOUBT.

In heaven's name, what would make George want to cover the accidental drowning of his beloved granddaughter as a murder and discard her body in a swamp - or did Casey discard the child's body after an accidental drowning?

ok einstein - how did the kid die

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What was her manner of death?

Who carried that out? What proof did the trial show? (Yes, I watched it every day.)

SUPPOSITION and EMOTION.

Yes, she was responsible for SOMETHING but because you're all hysterical it doesn't mean she is the one who killed the kid. Just that she was a crappy human and in the very least lied and covered it up.

And George wasn't an innocent in this, so he either knew what happened or HELPED cover it all up because he made sure he had IMMUNITY before he spoke to the court.
Baloney. George was not involved. Watch the jail tapes - Listen to the people who were in the house !
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Circumstantial evidence IS evidence, and it was there. This jury was pitiful. Also, at least half of them initially wanted to convict of manslaughter, but were then swayed by the very next day to say not guilty. Casey was the mother. Casey did not report her missing. Casey partied the day of her death. Casey got the tattoo. Casey's car had the smell of death. Casey did the computer searches. Casey lied and lied and lied and lied. She should have been convicted in the least of child abuse! This is a travesty! I see why so many are upset.
Tim Miller - Christine
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Did you hear Tim Miller (hope I got the name right) from EquaSearch (sp) on HLN? He was in the Anthony home and brought a map of the area when he was preparing to do the search. He said that George yelled for Casey to come out of her bedroom. George slammed his hand on the map and screamed at Casey and said "Now you put a damn X on that map where to find her."
The reason George Anthony thought Casey knew - is he is a logical man, ex-cop too.
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Anyone with common sense, would know if a person did not report a child missing and lied to the police about Zanny, work, etc, is probably a guilty person. George knew she must have known where the child was, living or dead.
Caylee obviously could not get air, be it from - duct tape or plastic garbage bags.
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No reasonable doubt about it. The idea that George would double bag his granddaughter in garbage bags and dispose of her body in a swamp after an accidental drowning is beyond reasonable. That is a pure crazy story given to defense lawyers by a psychopathic liar. All the defense lawyers wanted to do was win the case and become rich and famous. Ethics didn't enter their mind. If there was an accident, why did Jose Baez let Casey sit in jail for 3 years before her trial.

"Beyond reasonable doubt" is interpreted as - "reason to doubt", by some.

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I'll take the word of the attorneys on HLN - SM

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Even the defense attorneys on the panel last night said the jury DID NOT have to answer the questions HOW, WHEN, WHERE, etc. They said the jury obviously did not understand the instructiions clearly. They said every one of them knew that she was involved in the child's death.

Jurors better lay low. I know juror 3 was pouting - she couldn't go swimming while sequestered

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Jurors were done with being sequestered and took an easy way out without realizing the backlash they were going to get. Wonder what their friends and family think of their decision.
I wondered that, too - SM
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No matter what anyone says on this board or elsewhere, to think that one can fabricate lie after lie after lie all related to her missing child who was later to be found dead thrown in a laundry bag and two trash bags with duct tape on her face and then walk out of jail free is unbelievable. I am still angry about people saying . . "Well, they admitted she was a liar." Ask yourself WHAT she lied about. Good Lord.

I agree with you. - I think that she probably...

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is guilty, but that was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I have no idea what actually happened to that child and neither does anyone else. My emotional side wants Casey to pay because I think she probably killed that girl, although I doubt she killed her intentionally, but I think that the jury made the harder and more just decision and found her not guilty, even though they all probably wanted to see her pay, as well. I think that the right thing to do is not always the easy thing and finding her guilty would have been easy, even if it was wrong.

Do you know the difference between reasonable doubt - and shadow of a doubt? Apparently not.nm

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Do you? - No reason to be nasty.
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All of this viciousness toward the jury is ridiculous. I guess that people really show their true colors in a situation like this and I am not at all impressed by the actions of everyone who has jumped onto this mob mentality.
This is not "mob mentality" We are all reasonable people - with logic.
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There is no way people from all walks of life and different parts of the country who have followed this case have developed a mob mentality. It is outrage that a person who did not report her child missing ever, (her mother did) is set free.

This was a miscarriage of justice by 12 sequested jury members, some who aren't that intelligent as evident by juror 3 statements, and others who had places to go, a cruise scheduled, and people to see and were in a hurry to leave sequestration so did not want to get into complexities of the case.
There very clearly is a way for people from all - walks of life and different parts
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of the country to participate in a mob mentality. It is happening. It is unreasonable to think that every single one of the 12 jurors is an idiot and yet, people from all walks of life and different parts of the country have decided just this. I have seen and heard the most disgusting things typed and said by these self-proclaimed "reasonable people" about not only Casey Anthony (which might be deserved), but about the jurors, as well. I am disgusted by this whole display. People have called for the deaths of the jurors. How reasonable is that? Shame on all of those who think that violence against these jurors or even Casey and her family is the answer. This was a unanimous decision reached in short order by 12 people. Perhaps, the problem is not that they all just wanted to go home, but that there just was not sufficient evidence to convict. Maybe that's just too reasonable for many to comprehend.
I'm disgusted by jurors who took a complex case - 11 some hours to decide not guilty
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I am disgusted that the outrage people feel is somehow characterized as mob mentality and that the 12 jurors are mental giants, who after all the evidence laid out before them can go over the case, the law, the charges, and decide not guilty. None of the people are highly educated so I can't see them fully understanding the law and the charges. Obviously they didn't and that is proven by 11 hours of deliberation minus a few lunches and a not guilty verdict.

I remain disgusted by the jury who were in such a hurry to come up with a verdict, they did not have time to debate or weigh evidence, but according to juror 3, they did misinterpret the fact that a method of death was not something that needed to be proven, even though duct tape and chloroform searches could have led to a clue to method of death if jurors cared to look into the issue. Why a garbage bag suffocation could have been method of death. In any case, no method of death needed to be proven.
And how long did you debate with 11 other people - before you decided "guilty" on this comp
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Although it is evident that you and many others feel that you are clearly smarter and more deserving of making the guilty/not guilty decision than the jurors, the fact is that it was put on them to make that decision and they did. You saw one woman give an interview that may or may not have been edited to make her look like an idiot and have decided that these 12 people did not take that responsibility seriously enough. The truth is that you really have absolutely no idea what went on and neither do I. I have to trust that our justice system works in the way intended. Our system favors the defendant. It is supposed to be that way. With you looking down your nose at the jurors who do not have the benefit of higher education, you should probably be aware of that fact.
The jurors deliverated approximately 10 hours. - Juror 3 giving interview idiotic, any way you look
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Her premise for finding Casey Anthony not guity, no cause of death, was not NECESSARY to find a guilty verdict in this case. The rest of her blah-blah-blah was irrelevant but still found her to be a dimwit, including her regrets she could not go swimming while sequestered. It kind of put her priorities while a juror in order. Add this to the fact that in court observers did not see her taking any notes.

Look the chick is an idiot for giving an interview and what she said in multiple interviews showed her to be a person who was not comprehending the rules set up by the court in coming to a conclusion in her verdict.

Hey I hope she gets to swim the whole day long and does not fret about her frivolous verdict, although I suspect she will be constantly reminded of it by her friends and family who are brighter than her.

The outrage is REAL, and it has merit. There was - NO common sense used here.

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There was NOT a slew of reasonable doubt, just more lies from her own lawyer. Look at his opening statement, another Casey lie that he was prohibited of closing with. This verdict is a sham. If you have an ounce of sense in your brain, you can see it. Oh, nevermind.

I'm with you - NM

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Ditto. Lack of common sense and an urge to - go home = jurors.
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I wonder if they will ever come out from under their rocks except for dimwit juror 3.

My issue with the jury is not the verdict. - It's their reasoning.

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According to Juror #3, "I applied the law."

I agree, "The Jennifer Ford Criminal Trial Law."

The law according to Jennifer Ford - who just wanted to go home.

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She couldn't swim while sequestered folks. So she interpreted a complex law to suit her need to go home sooner rather than later.

She doesn't seem the brightest bulb and maybe could relate to Casey - Girls just want to have fun. Right?

Selection of jurors - SM

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The prosecution fought to exclude some of the jurors when they were trying to pick 12 for the case. The judge let them in. Juror #4 clearly stated she "can't judge people." Perhaps a job as a greeter at Wal-Mart would be more appropriate for her.

We have a local case, Ryan Widmer, who was - accused and convicted of murder

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He reported he found his wife drowned in the tub. There was no motive or method of death other than his word that she must have drowned. There was nothing to connect him with the crime other than he was in the house at the time of the drowning. The man sits in prison for the death of his wife on less circumstantial evidence than in the Casey Anthony case. The jurors did not determine a motive or manner of death.

He had 3 trials, the first of which he was found guilty but because of jury misconduct, he had a second trail. This was a hung jury. The third trial he was found guilty again.

I know this case well. All evidence was circumstantial. - Free Ryan Widmer

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There is a movement to try to get this man freedom. Maybe the Casey Anthony case will help. If Casey Anthony walks with everything against her including her lies, Ryan Widmer should be free.

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