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Posted: Jul 7, 2011

Do you all think that 12 people who got to together to sit in on this case could all be idiots?

I think maybe they didn't deliberate and came to a rash decision based on the fact they had been sequestered for so long and wanted to get home. Not sure of the idiot status though but they remain in hiding and I think that is a good idea because of the outrage of their decision. I saw the evidence and heard testimony. There is no way I could set Casey Anthony free.

Some commentators have suggested the jurors like Jose Baez and did not like prosecution lawyers so they gave more weight to Baez. Is that a good reason to reach a not guilty decision?

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Jury seemed to be in a hurry to get home. - Not much time spent going over days of evidence.

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I don't know that they are "idiots" but I don't think they thought through reasonable doubt. Why would Casey lead people to believe Caylee was kidnapped. To buy time. Why didn't she report the child missing. To buy time. If it was a drowning accident why would she discard the body in a swamp? Why was the body hidden? Why not report drowning? Why was duct tape on the body?

Common sense would dictate to me that Casey Anthony is the only one who showed guilt by lying and motive as she enjoyed being free and her lies were being exposed. She had a relationship with a guy who was in love with her and didn't want her daughter to spend the night at his apartment.

idiots - mimi

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They will be forever vilified for the gross injustice to Caylee that they dished out! They decided instead to punish the prosecution for not proving it's case instead of Casey for her grossly obvious wrongdoing! America is up in arms! Where is the justice in this? Who will answer for and represent Caylee?

there is absolutely NOTHING that any one of them can say (when they all start to do their interviews and write their memoirs ..) that will convince me that I should lend an ear to their excuses! They can all rot as far as I'm concerned. Black souled fools!

They make a mockery of the jury system! Too bad the judge didn't overturn their decision. I'm angry there too.

the judge is not allowed by law to overturn - FYI

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I am amused by the ignorance of the justice system on this board.

PUNISH????the prosecution???? It's called NO EVIDENCE!!!! This is what juries do when there is NO EVIDENCE in a CAPITAL MURDER case where the accused could BE PUT TO DEATH.

Your post is very scary.

Please read post below titled "I don't have the answer for you, but your post - reminds me - It's a good one.

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The post is under the one with "legal transcriptionists" in the title.

How many jury critics here have actually served on a jury panel on a tough case? I have served and you have to follow the rules of the court, not your emotions and what you think "might" have happened.

jury decision - mt1347

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Yes, they are supposed to follow the instructions. I don't believe this jury followed them or even understood them. Every juror that I have heard speak out so far - Jennifer Ford and the Russell Huekler (SP?) alternate have spoke about "assigning punishment," but in fact that was not their responsibility and the judge did not instruct to "assign punishment." The fact that they only took 11 hours over 2 days to deliberate tells me they simply didn't delve into things deeply. I think they were irresponsible and if it were possible, they should be prosecuted for derelictin of duty. I know it isn't, but I wish it were, so people would take jury duty more seriously.

I agree. The jury was sloppy, lazy and intellectually - lacking the concept of reasonable doubt.

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I watched Jennifer Ford where if she couldn't know exactly where or how Caylee died, she couldn't know she did it. I know Orlando. There are plenty of isolated places to administer chloroform, one of which is Suburban Drive very close to the Anthony home. Jennifer Ford came off as a dimwit to say the least. I am attaching a link to one of her interviews and also discussion about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhtepkjw2Lsiews.

@jury decision - mt1347

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I lived in Orlando for several years and I worked on Surburban Drive, just less than a block from where they found Caylee's body. I don't think they ever took the jury to the scene so that they could see how wooded that area is. There are dozens it not hundreds of places like that in Orlando - it's very easy to dump a body in the woods or in one of the 80 lakes there. The whole thing is such a tragedy. Looking at Casey in court with her long hair and sweater on - unlike the pony tail to make her look and innocent and the sweet little white blouse - with that smirk on her face just saddened me. It didn't even make me mad, just sad because this woman will cause much more destruction during her lifetime. She threw her own flesh and blood, her family, under the train to get herself off. That is sociopathic behavior - I can't diagnose since I'm not a professional, but I know the behavior when I see it.

Just saw Jeff Ashton on TV commenting on juror 3 - There was cellphone evidence Casey was in the area

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Casey had access to the house and could gone back after her father left for work.

Jeff says he guesses juror 3 "forgot" this evidence when trying to figure out where Casey committed the crime. Home sweet home juror 3.

Of course this jury couldn't have gone over all the evidence because if one juror "forgot" or had doubts about where the crime was committed, all 12 jurors could discuss what they remembered or they could have asked to review the testimony.

This was an intellectually limited jury and at this point after listening to juror 3, I think she is morally corrupt because she didn't review evidence thoroughly that would have answered her questions.

There is no way they could have come up with this conclusion without reviewing weeks of evidence. They just wanted to go home and they took the easy way out and can go home and write their book. I can only hope Casey moves in next door to juror 3.

Yes, so disgusted. The jury should be put in jail - themselves. This is so wrong!

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They did not even take the time they needed... thugs!!!!

One of the things that struck me - sm

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Watching little Miss Innocent when she was being sentenced for her lying charges...she wore her little sweet innocent look but when the judge didn't say what she wanted to hear, she had a look on her face....well, that look of icy contempt for whatever stood in her way was probably also the last thing her daughter saw.

As for the jurors, they're HER peers, not mine, which explains a lot. And I believe one of them leaving on a cruise today, they're asking a minimum of 5-figures for interviews. Had they found her guilty, would there have been anyone clamoring for an interview? I don't think so. The money is made with the controversy and a decision most thought foregone would not have profited anyone.

re your theory about jurors - poking holes

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Not sure what you mean they were her peers and not yours? What exactly does that mean?

1. Juror with a cruise. There were provisions for that made. If the other 11 jurors had such strong convictions to the contrary and if they found it necessary to deliberate for another 2 days, there were alternate jurors. This happened in Scott Peterson case and they didn't miss a beat. Also, if they did reach a guilty verdict, the cruise juror could leave and be replaced by an alternate, and they could go on with the punishment phase, to decide whether Casey would live or die.

2. Five figures were offered to them by media, not asked by jurors.

3. I beg to differ regarding the jurors' willingness to give interviews, and demand for same, if guilty. The media that offer money just want an interview, no matter what the verdict. It would be MUCH easier to grant an interview under those circumstances, nothing hostile. But since it is an unpopular decision, I would think it would make it less likely for a juror to want to come forward, especially in light of the nit-picking of the ones who have come forward. I know I wouldn't want to face that scrutiny.

"A decision most thought foregone would not have profited anyone"????? I think not.

The "chef" juror has a publicist who is letting - the media know that this

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juror will talk if he is compensated.

juror cashing in - ccmt

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I think this is the one you were thinking about:
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0706_casey_letter_TMZ.pdf

A publicist for the unidentified juror is sending a letter to media outlets, claiming, "Our client -- a married, college-educated, 33-year-old white male with two young children -- is willing to consider granting one or more media interviews so long as the opportunities are paid."

We're told the juror has already received multiple offers from big news operations, including at least one major network. Sources tell us ... the high offers are in the "mid 5-figures."

Paid interviews are a hazy moral territory for obvious reasons -- and the publicist, Rick French, admits, paying for sit-downs is "always a sticky subject and believe me, I understand the delicacy of this type of negotiation."

But French insists ... sticky or not, his client ain't budging -- "He will not entertain any offers that don't include compensation for a myriad of reasons."

Makes me wonder if juror 6 had an alternative motive - in the beginning.

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This is our justice system at work?

one of the things that struck YOU? - poking holes

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I'm catching Nancy Grace's replay of earlier show. Your last sentence of first paragraph is pretty much a quote of the guest I just listended to. I guess you both were struck by the same "thing" at the same time.

Also, one of the males speaking against Casey just promoted himself as a record artist stating the name of his group and the name of his new release. Guess everyone who can is cashing in on Caylee's death.

Mr. Ashton not in court... busy doing his rounds of morning shows. Guess the life of a poor poor prosecutor who just does his job for nothing and goes home ain't so bad after all... of course, unless he's doing all these appearances for free.

I would assume many people were struck by Casey's scowl today. - not_blind_after_all. nm

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Did Mr. Ashton kill his daughter, too? Or accidentally drown here and misplace the body - in a swamp? Apple/orange. nm

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I apologize for being dismayed by hiprocrisy - apples and oranges

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and for disliking and disregarding anything N.Grace has on her show because of her sensationalism and twisting, etc. JMO. Don't want to argue.

Your point is well taken.

They may have locked her up if prosecution didn't push prosecution on a charge they couldn't prove. She would have talked eventually. Sensational press forced them to do something immediately and prematurely. Again, JMO.

Casey did it. Just hate all the people who blame everyone but the government who brought too harsh of charges they could not prove too soon. I want her to pay just as much as the next fellow, which is why this is so frustrating.

I am not sure I understand the over-charge thing. - Please 'splain if possible.

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Everybody keeps saying the DA overreached with the premeditated murder. Although, in fairness to them, the fact that they had the computer search for chloroform and neck breaking and whatever else there was would suggest she planned it, which is by definition premeditation.

From what I gather they wanted a death penalty eligible jury because the DA's office felt that the mindset capable of throwing the switch would also be able to look past the wholesome mommy act.

But the jury also found her not guilty of manslaughter, so if they felt 1st degree homicide was overkill they could have gone for the lesser offense.

So since the jury was apparently given options as far as the degree of guilt, I'm not sure why people say the DA overcharged it.

because, from my understanding - apples and oranges

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The manslaughter charge did not include an accident, only manslaughter by child abuse. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but an accident was not on the table in any shape or form.

Which is the basis for my protest.

The jury was only allowed to consider the child died by child abuse or premeditated murder.

If the jury came to the conclusion this could be an accidental death by any means, they could not find Casey guilty on any of the charges, except for the ones they did, lying to the police.

Regarding the chloroform search, that's where it ended. They had no evidence she actually cooked the chloroform, and there was no neck-breaking evidence on autopsy. They didn't even show the pages she accessed in that chloroform search.

They "overcharged" because the DA did not offer the accidental death and coverup of same scenario as an option. Casey would have served time if convicted of this, but she would not have been executed, which was the desired end result of sensational TV and Orange County (death penalty eligible source).

Well, we all aren't lawyers, are we? - semantics?

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What word might they have used?

Their word, "punishment," may not have meant "legal" punishment, just what would have resulted after their decision. That is the logical progression.

This is what is so screwed up. No respect for the jury as laymen. If my SIL says she's going to the gastrointernist, I know she means gastroenterologist.

Why must those on a higher legal level pick apart everything they say? The jurors don't speak "legal" every day!!! So if they use the wrong word, they are derelect?

Press, etc. wants them to talk, but when they do? Pick, pick, pick.

The ONLY piece of REAL evidence was the hair in the trunk, but the prosecution gave no leeway for anything that may have been an accident, a much easier concept for jurors in a vacuum to digest and consider legally. They WANTED to lock her up!!! Seems like the DA was in a vacuum.

And as long as I'm here, the proposed motive by the prosecution that Caylee would be talking soon to reveal her mother's secrets and lies. Testimony by someone, a male, can't remember who he was, said Caylee could count to 40 in Spanish and she was highly intelligent. Therefore, she could talk already. Videos of her singing, etc. pretty much say the same thing. My kids both talked in a narrative as to what happened today and yesterday at least by 18 months... more holes for the jury to consider. Prosecution was reaching at that point and they had a reason to do so.

I do think Casey knows what happened and is responsible for something criminal which she should have been "punished" for. I just wish the government would have not been so arrogant and reactive.

Had the DA just given her a little rope, been a little more patient... Certinaly with time a party animal like Casey would eventually have some pillow talk and... case closed...

This is just my non-educated-in-law, and what I would like to think as rational opinion... but of course, I have watched my share of Cold Case Files (not to be confused with the fictional Cold Case), so that must qualify me somehow, right?

When in doubt, the jurors had access to someone who could clarify. - Evidence and testimony

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They didn't even ask to review testimony. They came to their decision, at least juror 3, and made a bad decision.

It was said by courtroom observers, juror 3 didn't even take notes. Guess she relied on her memory and it failed her so she set a murderer free.

To me, that shows a lack of integrity and lack of intelligence. She said she was tired and didn't have anything to do while being sequestered. Let's just wait to see her book.

Juror 3, Jennifer Ford, is a bozo for even coming out with her justification of the verdict which has been ripped apart.

ripped apart by whom? Nancy Grace? - .

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She said she didn't want to connect the dots with question marks. I'm sure you would appreciate the same courtesy if your fate was potentially legal injection... maybe for something you were either too young or stupid to deal with properly... just sayin' the glass house theory?

Please google innocents executed. I would provide the link, but I'm not sure if links are permitted.

Your referral to a juror as bozo speaks volumes. Both sides chose the jury.

Juror 3 - carmt

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And they seem to be stuck on the cause of death. She said that one of the reasons they let her go was because the prosecution couldn't prove a cause of death. That's ignorant and ridiculous. Does anyone remember the Scott Peterson trial? He's on death row. No cause of death was listed for Laci Peterson. It's obvious these jurors did not understand the instructions.

Juror 3, Jennifer Ford is really dumb. - Listen to all her interviews.

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I can't believe my ears. It was circumstantial evidence. You put all the parts together and look at the big picture, not investigate each tree. There was no reasonable doubt and no need to find cause of death. It was said she never took notes. Maybe she should have, especially the instructions to the jurors and definition of reasonable doubt. I hope some day Judge Perry will tell us what he thinks of the verdict, maybe in a book down the road. I would love to read his take on the Casey Anthony trial.

Guilty - Not Guilty

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In a criminal trial, the presiding judge can set aside a Guilty verdict due to insufficient evidence to support guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt." Did those Pinellas County jurors who were deliberating on a death-penalty first-degree murder charge not know about that "safety net" for a Guilty-verdict defendant...and the jurors themselves?

However, a jury acquittal cannot be overturned. Period. End of subject.

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