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Posted: Jul 29, 2011

I know someone who took in 2 foster kids. She is a teacher and her husband works in construction. She doesn't need for anything. Her own lil girl (not a foster kid) is in pagaents a lot. She spends quite a bit on pagaents actually and eating out and just went on a short vacation/pagaent. They went out of town to a pagaent and vacationed for the weekend while there. They say they are broke though. Anyways, when they go on vacation they don't take the foster kids. Then she said she wanted to take the foster kids to a water park one day that is in the area close to where they live. Well the water park was giving away 2 free tickets to the person who made a comment on their facebook page and had the most likes on the comment. So she asked everyone to like it. Nothing wrong with that of course. Who wouldn't want free tickets? But the tickets only cost $10 (its a small water park) so if she didn't win she could still afford to take the kids at that price. She made such a big deal out of the fact that these tickets were for foster kids so they could go to the park that when she wasn't winning a guy who is a friend said he would pay the $20 for the 2 foster kids who he doesn't even know by the way so they can go. I guess cause she made a big deal of it. My problem is if you can afford to go to pagaents all over the place and spend money on hotel rooms, short vacations, pagaent dresses, etc why should you accept money from someone to take your foster kids to a water park that is relatively inexpensive? I just don't think it's appropriate to expect other people to give to you because you have foster kids when she buys anything her own kid wants or needs. She volunteered to take those kids. She gets state money to take care of them. She spends money on anything else. Oh and they don't take the foster kids out to eat either. They are always conveniently somewhere else with their grandmother or somewhere when they go to eat. I know she is doing a lot by taking these children in but then shouldn't they be treated like you treat your own children as far as taking them on trips and out to eat? Also if you can spend money on a pagaent that costs $300 just to enter not counting clothes, gas money to get there, hotel costs, eating, etc then you can pay $20 to take those kids to a water park. It just rubbed me the wrong way when she accepted money from someone to take these kids to the water park. And I know they prob offered because she made such a big deal of it and said how she would love to take her foster kids to the park if she could win those tickets. I just had to vent. Am I the only one who thinks this is wrong? ;

stir up trouble much? - what do you care?

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vent away. When was the last time you gave so much of your time and personal expenses that you took care of someone else's kids? what does it matter to you to stir up trouble?

I WILL vent away! - anonymouse

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I do not take on foster children and give my time, just not my thing. My point is if she cannot spend the same time and personal expenses on her foster kids that she does her own kids don't get foster kids cause that is not fair. It "matters" because it irks me, that's why.

what is it with you and "stirring up trouble comments?" - anonymouse

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Are you the same one twilightzone or whoever who accused the poster below of stirring up trouble too asking if she had posted before on that subject? Everyone who posts is not trying to "stir up trouble." It doesn't matter if I vent or not. If you don't like it don't read it but DON'T make smart comments to me cause I can make them right back at ya.

I tried to give the benefit of the doubt, but it is starting - to look a little shady

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It was weeks with the most controversial posting a question about scariest movies and suddenly in the last couple days we have an woman living with an abusive unemployed psychotic alcoholic who is painting threats on the fridge in chicken blood and growling in her ear yet she stays because deep down inside he is good. We've got the bad neighbors who keep burning, well, it was skids in the original post but since nobody knew what those were changed it to pallets, and even though common sense says you can't burn in city limits, the post reappeared so the same situation could get the same answers,although I think this time it stressed that the car was new. And now we've suddenly got the pageant mom who is spending thousands on her "real" kids gowns while leaving the foster kids eating mealy oatmeal and water from the hose.

And all are written in the same style, even with the same, "Oh and by the way" that pops up near the end to add one more damning bit of info. It almost seems like an online version of Munchausen by proxy but designed to garner you the pity and sympathy of the board here. Kinda sucks for the people with real problems or issues. Hopefully if it gets too bad the moderate can check IP addresses to see if one household is having all this drama.

So, yeah, these posts are starting to fall into the category of things that make you go hmmmm.

Ok...lol..I'm not the same person who posted those posts. - anonymouse

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This board is crazy. When you post something people accuse you of lying or making up a story or they get smart with you. LOL

Hmmmmmmm - thanks for the chuckle!

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Lord knows I needed that chuckle!

I see your point and I agree with it. Maybe the underlying reason for her is all in the $$$ she rec - nm

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It costs far more to raise a child than what they get. - I think that it's ridiculous

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to assume that anyone takes in foster children as a source of income. Maybe, this person just can't afford to treat them all the same. I don't really think that she should treat the foster children differently than her own children, but she is doing a service by taking them in at all. It is certainly easy to play arm chair foster parent when you don't have any foster children. I do not; therefore, I'll reserve my judgement of existing foster parents. I just don't think that I could deal with the heartache of having to send a child back to a home where he/she was mistreated in the first place and that happens all the time. Perhaps, this woman is just shielding herself from that sort of pain in some manner. We really don't know, do we? My guess is that they are far better off than they could be.

I think that foster care isn't above the realm of abuse - sm

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I'm sure there have been cases of fraud within the foster care system and those who take advantage of this systems for their own benefit, meaning money!!

Here's a little sample of fostering for money - sm

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Standng in contrast to the ideal image of foster mother Doris Marshall, a Boston Globe review of payments made to foster parents in 1994 included accounts of these troubling cases:

Hazel and Pierre Cetoute, in whose home 3-year-old Gage Guillen died under mysterious circumstances, received $26,510 in fiscal year 1994, according to Department of Social Services records. At the time of the incident, the family was caring for four foster children and two adopted children.

Barbara and Michael Ohanian of Medway, in whose home a foster baby died of heat stroke after being left in the family car, received $24,837 in fiscal year 1994. The family had four foster children with medical problems, as well as four birth children at the time of the incident.

Carmen Torres, in whose home 13-month-old Luis Perez was apparently scalded so severely by an older foster child that he later died of complications, received $8,510 from the Department in fiscal year 1994. Torres had five foster children in her care at the time of the accident.

Raul Vasquez, the 24-year-old "unemployed bachelor" accused of raping one of his foster sons, was, along with his mother, receiving $5,000 a month, or $60,000 a year, to care for 10 boys in two adjoining apartments.

Massachusetts state Senator Therese Murray (D-Plymouth), vice chairwoman of the Senate Post Audit and Oversight Committee, explains that "in certain towns," foster care "is a cottage industry." But the foster parents she knows, she adds, "are not in it for the money. They deserve more money."[12]

But no one is alleging that this person is - abusing these kids, simply

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that she doesn't like that this woman would like to have people donate to take this kids to a water park. I think that for the most part, foster parents are caring people who are certainly not making money on the whole deal. I know a few foster parents who are a wonderful God-send to the children whom they are parenting. These types of things happen all over. As far as the scalded child, I am not entirely sure what the money has to do with an accidental death where an older child scalded the younger one. We must keep in mind that these children are damaged and that this may have been an accident or it might be that the older child was so damaged by his biological parents that he committed a horrible crime. How is that the fault of the foster parent? I just think that the OP should maybe try not to be so judgmental. Are these foster children well fed and clothed and going to school. Again, there is a good chance that they are much better off than they could be. As for the terrible things that some foster parents do to foster kids, teachers, coaches and any other number of volunteers for children's activities do the same types of things. It is terrible, but it is the nature of a child predator to insert his/herself into situations with children.

I think the point being - anon

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that in most of these examples they had taken in or were caring for more children then was realistically 'doable' in order to give the children the attention they needed, hence the accidents which appear to be due to possibly being overwhelmed by having too many children to care for, especially if any of those children have extra needs, as foster children often do.

And that is a problem with the social worker. - Somebody placed those children

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in that environment. I think that this is the person who deserves the blame.

Wow- most of them make almost as much as I do working. nm - maggie

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xx

I know of a couple people that have made livings of it. - sm

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Considering their medical care is paid for and there are often other services provided, the $25K you can get per child works out pretty nice. Considering that's more than what many single parent MTs are making, it's not a bad paycheck, especially if you can use their money to pay for your kids cheerleader camps and dance recitals while that the foster kids get their Goodwill clothes.

The company you keep is often a comment - on who you are, you know.

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If I knew people like this, I don't think I would admit it, but when it comes down to it, kids are expensive. You must provide them with a bed to sleep in and a roof over their heads, clothes, food, diapers, et cetera. Sometimes the state will pay for extra curricular activities, but often they don't. Most states require that you prove that you are financially able to care for your own family before licensing you as a foster parent. While I am sure that there is some fraud, I certainly doubt that it is the norm, despite these horrible people you know.

grandparents and 5-generation family is the new - foster care system

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Quoting information from the 1990s is quite outdated. Any information can be massaged to back up any platform you wish.

The truth is that if grandparents and family turned in all the kids they were caring for - kids NOT in the foster care system - the foster care system would go bankrupt almost immediately.

That is a truth that no amount of massaging can change.

There is a 15/24 month rule that is federally mandated. If states want their slice of the pie, they must comply with this rule. GP/family provide the niche for state governments to meet compliance at the lowest possible expense.

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