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Maine legalizes medical marijuana, repeals gay marriage

Posted: Nov 4, 2009

It's like one step forward, two steps backwards.

http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/128046.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/us...s/05maine.html

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Can't leave civil rights up for a vote - NJ

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Civil rights have to be legislated. When left up to a vote, the majority (the people in power, not the minority pushing for civil rights) will traditionally cling to refusing to share those rights.

The medical marijuana thing took me by surprise, though. Go Maine ^^

NJ

Today I am ashamed to be from Maine - NM

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Now I can go to Maine for vacation... - NMMT

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The state has restored my pride in humanity and the morality of some of its residents.

Be careful - NJ

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Very close to half the voters don't agree with you. Pick your restaurants/stores/gas stations carefully...you have a 52/48 chance of finding like-mined people. Not much room for a mistake there.

NJ

It doesn't appear so according to the news - NMMT

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I'm not afraid to go anywhere because of my beliefs and will state them without fear. I just have no desire to visit those states who have no moral values. Apparently Maine's moral are the majority. ;-)

Stay away from Vermont then, homophobes are not welcome here. nm - oldtimer

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Vermont...We have pretty fall colors - NMMT

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in my state too. Don't need to see Vermont either. ;-)

Oh my goodness - anon

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Who died and left her queen of her state, telling who needs to stay out of Vermont?

Queen??? LOL - NMMT

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I didn't get that from any of the messages - anony

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Nobody is telling anyone to stay out of Vermont.

Maine - OHMT

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One simple word. Move.

Homosexual marriage... - NMMT

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is not a civil right. Marriage is between a man and a woman only and always will be.

Church vs state - NJ

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Again, I would like to have that separation of church and state. The state has let the churches perform this civil ceremony and seems to bow to the wishes of the church as to who should receive it.

Without the church involved, there would be no problem.

NJ

Church vs. state. - Viking Fan

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It's not the church making the laws. As it is, we're pushing God out of our country as quickly as we possibly can so you may just get your wish.

I think it is - NJ

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I believe it is the church making these laws vicariously through their flocks. Seriously, take the church out of the equation and there would be hardly any persecution of gays left.

NJ

Homosexuals are hardly persecuted... - NMMT

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If they think not being allowed to marry someone of the same sex is persection, they'll really be surprised come Judgement Day. ;-)

Lack of civil rights isn't the whole story - NJ

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I'm sure we all know stories of homosexuals being bullied, denied jobs, being fired for being gay, etc. etc. etc.

Lack of civil rights is just a little bit of the story.

NJ

Those things have happened... - NMMT

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to me and I'm certainly not homosexual. I've been bullied for being short. I've been denied a job because I couldn't speak the Spanish language. I haven't been fired for my sexual activity but then I keep that to myself. Maybe those who engage in homosexual acts should do the same. Some people may not want perverts working for them. Keep your sexual activities to yourself. Sexual activity between men and women is a normal universal act that brings no shame. ;-)

All the same plus - NJ

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Have you been harassed for being straight? That's the point, dear. Any homosexual could also have suffered the same slights as you plus discrimination about their orientation which you, if you have experienced it at all (and mot have not), have not had to deal on a daily basis.

No closet, no more. Homosexuals should be able to discuss their significant others just like anyone else. Freedom of speech ^^ It's not talk about sex, it's talk abut families. You and your ilk cannot force that back into a closet because you think your god disapproves.

NJ

I don't care whether you stay.. - NMMT

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in your closet or out of it. That is not my concern. I'm not harrassed for being normal, of course not. A person who chooses an abnormal lifestyle or dysfunction by choice takes the risk of being harrassed by some. Harrassment is harrassment, whatever the reason. You may discuss anything you wish but it won't be with me. Once I learn of your dysfunction, I lose all respect for you. You can't bully me or legislate me into thinking or believing any different. I don't want to hear of your perversion. Others may care... I don't. I find it very immoral and disgusting, as my God does. All the laws in the land won't stop the way I feel or believe. If you are harrassed about your dysfunction, it is by your own choice. I choose normality.

I choose normality - well, you failed there

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if normality is what you were going for. If you truly followed the word of this god of yours, you would know that he would condemn you for being so judgmental!

Civil Rights - Viking fan

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I was also bullied in school, short and skinny. I was sexually harrassed while working as a shift manager at McDonald's but there was nothing done back then. This was before Thomas/Hill. I regularly had one of the top supervisors (they weren't in-store supervisors but visited often) ask me when I was coming over to his place. It got so hard to avoid him, I ended up transferring to another McDonald's. He was twice my age, the creep. Nothing was done about it back then. As a bartender, I've had drinks thrown on me, had my life threatened because I cut someone off.

I've met homosexuals and found them to be some of the nicest people I've ever met. However, I am a Christian and my religion does not allow me to believe in homosexual marriage. Frankly, I've lived a pretty tame life and I'm still afraid what God is going to say to me when I die.

We've all been harrassed in some form - NMMT

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or another. Homosexuals just like to play the pity card. I also know some people who claim they are "homosexual" and they are very nice but it doesn't excuse their sin. We're all going to face Judgement Day but I'm not going to face my maker and have to explain why I felt a sin that He condemned was acceptable. I can admit to my sins. I don't try to justify them and even go so far as to say they're not sins at all. The mentality of those who claim that there is nothing bad about homosexuality simply amazes me.

Harrassment - OHMT

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I always feel I'm not good enough for God. It's a self esteem thing. I do my best to be my best and sometimes let my anger get to me. I have more of a spiritual relationship with God than I do a religious one. He is with me 24/7. I am a recovering alcoholic and it was God who saved me. I would have been dead years ago. I owe Him my life. Each morning I turn my day over to Him and He never steers me wrong. Sure, things go wrong. I spent 3 months sick this summer, was better for a day and broke my foot. I now have an abscessed tooth. Each thing is a learning experience in life. I still can't talk about it without bawling but I had to put one of my pugs to sleep a couple of months ago and bury him. There's only one thing I still struggle with - if there's a different Heaven for dogs, I want to go there and care for them, but I truly want to believe my babies will be there when I get there. I can't bear the thought of never ever seeing them again.

You should be proud of yourself..sm - NMMT

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My relationship with God is also more of spiritual one. Religious relationships are for people and the church they belong to but I do read and believe His word. I'm sure you'll see your pug again. Animals were put here for us to enjoy and love. God is all understanding. I hope you get to feeling better. Struggles only make us stronger. :-)

Thanks for encouragement - OHMT

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Thank you for your kind words. The wounds of having to put Toby to sleep are still fresh. Heck, I was crying earlier today during lunch as I was finishing "90 Minutes In Heaven". I still have 2 more pugs, Bumper and Maggie and I don't want to ever let them go. We may get another pug puppy in the spring. Or another Rescue (Toby was a rescue). Right now it doesn't seem right.

I have been thru a lot in my life. In my 20's, I said "Why me?"

In my early to mid 30's, I drank to make it go away.

Now that I'm in my early 40's, I realize there's a purpose for it. God will reveal it to me, only not all at once. God does answer prayers but you have to be listening.

I'm probably signing off for the night, unless my tooth keeps me up.

Wish me luck at the dentist in the morning and plenty of Vicodin for the afternoon if they yank it - LOL!

God Bless you, NMMT.

OHMT - NMMT

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I know how hard it is to lose a pet. They're like family. I watched my husband cry like a baby when he lost his cow dog to old age. You keep hanging in. God must have a purpose for you. Good luck at the dentist. I hate that trip myself. :-(

Thanks, NMMT - OHMT

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The dentist will be a relief at this point, especially after the Klonopin kicks in, LOL.

I have a pug forum based in Australia I visit regularly. They are a great bunch of pug lovers and are very supportive (and not quite as uptight as Americans - LOL). I thought by now I'd be able to talk about Toby without bawling but I guess not. Time heals all wounds or, as my mom would say - time wounds all heels.....

Evenutually same-sex unions - me

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In time, same-sex marriage will have the same legal standing as heterosexual marriage.

I don't care what they call it, but in time a union between homosexuals will have the same rights and legal standing as heterosexuals - because EVOLUTION is inevitable for one thing, and because it is the right thing to do.

Not according to God... - NMMT

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Abortion is also legal but very immoral. Whether or not homosexual marriage becomes legal or not, it will NEVER be acceptable to God and those who believe in him. Legality does not equal morality and never has.

NMMT - Viking Fan

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NMMT - That's never mattered to our government, has it?

No it hasn't... - NMMT

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Our country was founded on Christian principles but our present government works very hard to keep Christ out of every aspect of anyone's lives but the devil sure can have free reign. ;-)

Fictional characters have no place in govt. - Just the big bad

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If you want to believe in a 2000-year-old ghost story, have at it. However, not everyone is that gullible, and definitely do not depend on such stories in order to live our lives.

You're a hoot... - NMMT

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"Fictional characters" - OHMT

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I assume you're referring to the Bible.

You're free to believe what you want.

My mom's dad was an evil, cruel man. Never believed in God, salvation, Jesus, the Bible, or any such matter. On his death bed, he lost consciousness for a few moments. He woke up screaming "THE HOUNDS, THE HOUNDS!!!! GET THEM OFF!!!! THEY'RE BITTING AT MY FEET!!!!" At that point he died. Don't believe in Hell? I do. That's not a BS story. And it's a very frightening one to me.

I think God would be very sad to hear one of his flock referring to himself and the rest of the people in the Bible as fictional characters but you are free to do as you please.

Hmmm....(sm) - Just the big bad

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1. I don't belong to a *flock.* I belong to a species.

2. Maybe grandpa shouldn't have kicked the dog so often?

Kicking defenseless dogs. - OHMT

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Too bad grandpa didn't lose his balance while kicking the poor dog and break his hip. Jerk. Was he related to Michael Vick by chance? Did it make him feel like a big man to kick a defenseless dog? Did it make up for a small penis?

About those fictional characters - gourdpainter

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I am a firm believer in what you refer to as a 2000-year-old ghost story and I believe every word in the Bible is truth including what it has to say about homosexuality. JTBB, when I die if it turns out that your assumption of the Bible being a 2000-year-old ghost story is correct...well, I'll just be dead, that's all; no harm done. On the other hand, what if it really IS NOT a 2000-year-old ghost story??? Where will you be?

America pushes God out - OHMT

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Let's teach our kids about homosexuality when they're in 1st grade but let's not let them pray in school.

Let's not let them sing Silent Night at Christmas.

Let's take the Ten Commmandments out of courtrooms because it offends someone.

Let's take the "One Nation Under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance because some redneck arsehole doesn't want his kid saying it.

If I were God, I would look down upon America and weep.

I'm sure He is doing just that...nm - NMMT

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Well good then, you seem to understand that - me

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The LAW CANNOT legislate morality AND that God's laws (in your warped view) are different from man's laws.

Enlighten yourself - see link - sau

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There is no mention of homosexuality in the four Gospels of the New Testament. The moral teachings of Jesus are not concerned with the subject.

Christians opposed to political and social equality for homosexuals nearly always appeal to the moral injunctions of the Bible, claiming that Scripture is very clear on the matter and citing verses that support their opinion. They accuse others of perverting and distorting texts contrary to their “clear” meaning. They do not, however, necessarily see quite as clear a meaning to biblical passages on economic conduct, the burdens of wealth and the sin of greed.

There is mention in Revelations... - NMMT

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and also in the Old Testament. The Bible is often picked apart by those who choose to believe only the parts they want. You appear to be one of those. You have no idea what sins Jesus preached against. The sin of homosexuality is mentioned in several places in the Bible as well as other sins. It's wrong. That's all I need to know. Those who try to convince others that it is not a sin are just as guilty as if they had committed the sin of homosexuality. I know it's wrong, not to mention dysfunctional.

You need more - sau

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Part of the problem is a question of interpretation. Fundamentalists and literalists, the storm troopers of the religious right, are terrified that Scripture, wrongly interpreted, may separate them from their values. That fear stems from their own recognition that their â��valuesâ�� are not derived from Scripture, as they publicly claim.

Indeed, it is through the lens of their own prejudices and personal values that they â��readâ�� Scripture and cloak their own views in its authority. We all interpret Scripture: Make no mistake. And no one truly is a literalist, despite the pious temptation. The questions are, By what principle of interpretation do we proceed, and by what means do we reconcile â��what it meant thenâ�� to what it means now?â��

These matters are far too important to be left to scholars and seminarians alone. Our ability to judge ourselves and others rests on our ability to interpret scripture intelligently. The right use of the Bible, an exercise as old as the church itself, means that we confront our prejudices rather than merely confirm them.

Really well written! - me

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But I will be surprised if it is understood by so many on this board...

I never cease to be amazed at the people who quote the Bible, proclaim their Christianity, etc., and then proceed to demonstrate by their words and deeds that they pick and choose which tenets to follow.

There seems to be a total disconnect with these folks between talking the talk and walking the walk.

Where? Where in Revelation? - slim

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Do tell.

Four Gospels - OHMT

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So you want to throw out the rest of the NT and all of the OT?

Click the link - that's what it's there for - sau

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Those...sm - NMMT

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who take away from the Gospel or add to it have a place reserved in the lake of fire. Lots of people are doing that these days rather than admit they're doing wrong.

Uh Oh - slim

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Where is this? I hope for your sake that this is not an interpretation which amounts to adding and/or taking away from the Gospel. This is not Revelation 22:19. Where is this in the Bible?

Here is a mention. - Good Article

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Homosexuality is Condemned in the Bible!

"The Bible's condemnation of homosexuality is as clear and plain as the Bible's condemnation of murder, adultery, premarital sex, kidnapping, lying and idolatry. Further, for me to openly condemn homosexuality theologically makes me no more a "gay basher" than I am an "adultery basher", "premarital sex basher", "kidnapper basher" or a "murderer basher". If you disagree, your argument is with God's Bible.

The homosexual community has two ways of promoting their personal choices of being homosexual through the religious forum. First, some will claim the Bible actually promotes and condones homosexuality. Second, others try to get the Bible banned from public use by categorizing it as hate literature.

For any to use the Bible to condone rather than condemn homosexual activity in the theological arena just proves such a one has absolutely no idea what the Bible actually teaches. For anyone to suggest the Bible says homosexual activity is acceptable to God, is nothing short of willful blindness. So to set the record straight once and for all, here is what the Bible teaches on the subject.

Anyone who has heard of the cities of "Sodom and Gommorah" knows that they were notorious hotbeds of homosexuality. Gen 19:5-8 "and they called to Lot and said to him, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them.' But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, and said, 'Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly.'" The Greek word in the New Testament for homosexuality is literally "a sodomite". Jock is trying to redefine what the term "sodomite" means. (A term that has unchanged in 5000 years, even today- "sodomy") Apart from the fact the city was clearly destroyed by God because of homosexuality in the narrative of Gen 19, even the New Testament clearly states exactly the same thing in Jude 7 "Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire." Any sinner should always remember that the God who commands us to love our neighbour is the same God who will cast any and all unrepentant sinners into the "eternal fire". Here are more Bible quotes, Lev 18:22-23 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Lev 20:13 "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death." 1 Cor 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals" 1 Tim 1:9-10 "realizing the fact that (civil) law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers" Rom 1:26-27 "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."

If the homosexual community chooses to practice homosexuality in privacy, that is there free choice. But let such persons know for certain that the Christian Bible condemns all such practices and God will judge them unfit for the kingdom of heaven if the continue to practice and openly promote homosexual sex.

Seven Things I Wish
Pro-Gay People Would Admit
by Bob Davies
1. I wish they would admit that many people are not happy with their homosexuality or lesbianism, and that this conflict is internal, based on legitimate, intelligent religious and moral convictions--not just the result of a so-called "homophobic" society which is forcing guilt upon people who don't conform to a heterosexual ethic.
Stop throwing out the cheap, inaccurate labels like "internalized homophobia" to explain our motivations.
2. I wish they would acknowledge that homosexuals and lesbians can experience significant change in their sexual feelings and desires, even though they may never be totally heterosexual in their sexual thoughts and feelings.
Be honest enough to admit that such change is significant and genuine, even if it isn't complete.
3. I wish they would acknowledge that many former homosexuals and lesbians have found a greater measure of peace and satisfaction after leaving a gay or lesbian lifestyle than they ever experienced while embracing homosexuality.
Not all "ex-gays" are miserable, plotting how to secretly fulfill their homosexual lusts without being caught.
4. I wish they would acknowledge that many former homosexuals and lesbians have genuine joy in their marriages.
Most former gays and lesbians don't get married in a futile attempt to "escape" homosexuality; they marry as a natural consequence of resolving that issue in their lives.
5. I wish they would acknowledge that all people have as much right to pursue a heterosexual lifestyle as they do to pursue homosexuality.
Former homosexuals and lesbians should not be harassed and castigated by the gay community. But I have never heard any gay or lesbian leaders speak out against the violence (such as bomb threats and physical/verbal abuse) which some people perpetuate against Exodus ministries.
6. I wish they would stop equating our decision to leave homosexuality with "hatred" and "bigotry" against gays and lesbians.
We don't hate gays; we simply desire to live free of homosexuality. Don't put nasty labels upon our motives. That's being judgmental and unfair.
7. I wish pro-gay religious leaders would admit that their endorsement and promotion of monogamous homosexual relationships is a facade.
Many--probably most--men and women involved in long-term partnerships are not sexually monogamous, but gay churches don't discipline members for committing "adultery" outside their "gay marriage." Neither do they discipline gays or lesbians who have sex before entering into a "holy union" with their partner."

Bob Davies is past President of Exodus International and an ex-gay himself. He has been married for nine years.

Where's the answer to my question? - slim

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It's fine that you posted an article, but I'm actually looking for the answer to my question about what NMMT wrote.

Slim...sm - NMMT

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I suggest you go out and buy a Bible and then try reading it for yourself. You will find the answers you are so desperate to repudiate.

So you made that up - slim

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I have a Bible and it's not there. I would say your reservation is secure; however, you should refer to Revelation 22:18 and 22:19.

Rev 22:18,19 - jd

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So the verses you are referring to mention how God will punish those who add to or take away from his Word...It would be wrong to add a verse condemning homosexuality if it were not there, I agree. However, if your Bible does not contain 1 Cor 6:9, 10, which clearly shows that among fornication, adultery, idolatry, theft, greed, drunkedness, etc, homosexuality is condemned...I do believe the publisher of said Bible didn't consult Rev 22:18,19...

This has absolutely nothing to do with my post - slim

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I simply asked NMMT to advise on where it says what she stated in the Bible. He/She was unable to do that.

ok then... - jd

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Well clearly then no one understands what you're talking about. NMMT had quoted Rev 22:18, 19 about adding/taking away from the Word... do tell me how is that not the right verse? And, do tell, how does what I said have nothing to do with your post? Please, fill me in.

You have the posts confused - slim

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NMMT did not quote Revelation. He/She stated something about a reservation in the lake of fire. I asked where that was in the Bible and he/she was unable to answer. NMMT said nothing at all about Revelation, nor did he/she quote it. I am the one who cited Revelation as the closest thing to what NMMT said, but it is not what he/she said. If it was Revelation 22:19, he/she added/took away.

Thanks - jd

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I do appreciate your clarification of that, I was genuinely confused. My question is though, despite it not saying lake of fire, don't the sayings "add unto him plagues" and "take away his part out of the book of life." mean the same thing? Destruction? Yes, she used the wrong wording, but the point was that it is a serious offense that God takes seriously.

Well, I'm not sure what to say - slim

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Some say this scripture refers to only the book of Revelation, some say it refers to the New Testament, and some say it refers to the whole Bible.

Can you speak to this with absolute certainty?

In addition - just to comment - lilly

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Scholars say these passages were written for scribes who notoriously changed wording, and for people who spread the Word who would dare to change it. There is similar verse in the Old Testament.

tweak - harley

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Let's clarify a bit: Your version of God. There are those of us who believe God loves all his creation.

How do you feel about - GAL

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killing and eating your children? Is this morally acceptable to you? Look it up in the Bible and let us know your thoughts.

Could you clarify what you're referring to? - please?

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I can comment - lilly

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I would rather not copy references here; however, there are numerous references to this in the Old Testament. Easily found also.

Evolution? - MTCO

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Seriously "me" what does evolution have to do with homosexuals? Are they going to mutate, evolve into something else? What? Homosexuals are not the equivalent to heterosexuals. It just isn't right.

Will you listen to yourself? - me2

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Oh, I get it . . . like woman are inferior to men . . . and blacks are inferior to whites . . . and Native Americans are nothing but savages . . . and Jews should be murdered because they are "impure" . . . shall I go on? You must be so proud of your viewpoint

Women, blacks, Native Americans.... - NMMT

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Those descriptions can't be changed. Homosexual can be. Big difference. Very proud of my viewpoint.

Your lack of education and narrow-mindedness . . . - me2

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is absolutely impossible to comprehend. It's really a shame you weren't born 200 years ago. Thank God, most of the world has intelligently evolved and progressed beyond those archaic beliefs. To suggest that women are better off in the kitchen "tending to the menfolk" rather than being treated as equal members of society is the worst kind of betrayal to other women.

If that's really the way you feel, I'm sure there are some groups in Utah where the men would more than welcome yet another obedient "wife".

You're a hoot... - NMMT

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If intelligently evolving means trying to accomplish sexual acts with someone of the same sex, then I prefer not to evolve, thank you. I didn't imply women were "better off in the kitchen." Those are your words. I said I would rather be in the kitchen than working for pennies on this computer. We don't all think like air-headed libs. No thanks. Got a husband who appreciates me. Don't need another one.

I'd like to say you're a "hoot", but just knowing that - me2

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there is ANYONE out there that still thinks like that is very frightening.

You call me an "airhead" for being educated enough to know that science has pretty much proven that sexual orientation is in the genetic makeup. Oh, yeah, that's right, I forgot, you don't believe in science -- you believe in, as I believe another poster so succinctly put it, "fictional characters." Now that's a hoot! LMAO

Science has not proven that at all - NMMT

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That's called spreading misinformation to further your agenda. You're a feisty little booger, aint ya? ;-)

It is very obvious that you don't believe in science, but there - me2

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is quite a bit of research that is leading up to confirming it as fact. Just as 10 years ago, Alzheimer's was found to have a genetic link, and breast cancer, heart disease, obesity, hair color, eye color . . .

Why would anyone choose to be gay? I can speak from personal experience. I recently freed myself after a loveless marriage to a man for 15 years, all the while hiding my true attraction to other women . . . mainly because of attitudes like yours that make it almost impossible for people like me to openly live and love proudly. I have ALWAYS been attracted to my own sex, even before I knew what sex was. Thank goodness I finally had the guts to stand up and have a voice, and I am deeply insulted that you think in some way I am inferior to you. And thank goodness I have good, compassionate, loving, supportive people in my life who do not judge me for who I love. Shame on you and your insidious kind of hateful intolerance. I can only hope that one day SOON, when it it proven genetically beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you will learn tolerance. And who knows, maybe it will free you to also finally come out of the "closet". You sound pretty repressed to me, poor thing!

Choice - NJ

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There is more to this than two opposite points. There are lots of things in between.

I think you are correct. People who insist there is a choice probably made a choice themselves because they are somewhere other than at the two points on either end.

Congrats on shaking the prejudices that were taught to you and good luck with your real life.

NJ

Give it a rest already... - NMMT

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I'm not changing my beliefs for the likes of you or anyone else who feeds me a sob story.

Hard-heart Hannah - me

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For one who likes to preach on the board about G-d, you seem to have a lot to learn about compassion.

Maybe you should listen harder in church. You are missing things.

LOL - NMMT

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Only those who desire to repent need sympathy or compassion, not proud sinners.

Oi vey! - me

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re: Only those who desire to repent need sympathy or compassion, not proud sinners.

Not according to the God I know.

What a phony u are, making assumptions and judgements like there's no tomorrow.

In reply to NMMT - cheshire cat

Oh please.....(sm) - Just the big bad

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You are all about encouraging the poster above who thinks prayer is the answer to everything and yet obviously they either aren't very good at it, or ...just perhaps...that prayer is a waste of time because they obviously aren't getting any relief yet. And then you want to criticize others for expressing something that is personal to them but does not meet your *criteria* for compassion? Way to open up that heart. I'm sure christ would be soooo proud. LOL.

BTW, I don't think anyone here was really trying to show you a different light at the end of the tunnel. We were simply pointing out the ridiculous nature of your argument.....and it's not getting any better.

These types just get more adamant the more you point out - me

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How wrong or ignorant they sound.

it's like wilfull ignorance on steroids.

No "me" its you on obama steroids. - Thoroughly Amused

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You bring out the best in "you" when you attack with nonsensical posts.

I don't think MTCO meant.... - that.

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To say that homosexuals and heterosexuals are not equal as persons is wrong. However, it is not the same as saying black and whites arent equal, etc... According to the Bible, homosexuality is wrong. Plain and simple. If people do not like that, don't read the Bible and profess Christianity. You can't pick and choose. But each of us will be judged according to our choices and actions, homosexual or not.

And if they had put the right of women to vote...(sm) - Just the big bad

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on a ballot, men would still be saying "A woman's place is in the kitchen, not in the workplace."

Doesn't sound like harrassment to me. - NMMT

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I'd love to be in the kitchen instead of slaving at the computer. ;-)

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