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Dem operative criticizes Ann Romney

Posted: Apr 13, 2012

Hilary Rosen, a Democratic operative with SKD Knickerbocker, touched off a Twitter storm tonight after she went on CNN and said that Ann Romney has "never worked a day in her life."

The statement was tweeted and retweeted, with a number of people condemning the statement as an attack on the candidate's wife, who was a stay-at-home mom who also raised the couple's five boys, and who has suffered from MS and breast cancer.

Ann Romney, who is widely praised as her husband's most effective surrogate, took to Twitter herself for her first-ever post, saying, "I made a choice to stay home and raise five boys. Believe me, it was hard work."

A number of people leapt to her defense, and President Obama's campaign manager Jim Messina and top adviser David Axelrod tweeted out disavowals of a statement that seemed insensitive to stay-at-home moms and sounded like a devaluation of what Ann Romney's life was like.

“I could not disagree with Hilary Rosen any more strongly. Her comments were wrong and family should be off limits. She should apologize,” Messina tweeted.

"Also Disappointed in Hilary Rosen's comments about Ann Romney. They were inappropriate and offensive," Axelrod tweeted.

Rosen's firm also employs Anita Dunn, former White House communications director, and worked on the Obama campaign in 2008. Her critics on Twitter described her as an "Obama adviser," just a bit of a stretch in description, but not enough of one for some critics, especially after Democrats have hit Republicans for guilt by association with people like Rush Limbaugh for months.

Regardless, Rosen doubled down — tweeting back at Ann Romney, "I am raising children too. But most young American women HAVE to BOTH earn a living AND raise children. You know that don't u?"

Earlier, she tweeted in her own defense, "When I said @AC360 Ann Romney never worked I meant she never had to care for her kids AND earn a paycheck like MOST American women! #Truth"

And she went further in a Huffington Post blog item, saying Mitt Romney has to stop hiding behind his wife's "skirt," and condemned the "faux outrage" from the right.

Ann Romney, according to Dylan Byers, will be on Fox News tomorrow morning, giving the issue fresh life. And Ann Romney is known for giving strong interviews. Her husband is also guaranteed to be asked about it — and if the perception is she is being unfairly attacked, he will have won the cycle, and potentially many more to come. For Romney, who polls show facing a large gender gap with women and who has been trying to move away from social issues conversations, it could help him.

The flip side is that Rosen's comments are now getting oxygen beyond the Twitterverse (and the CNN-verse), letting Democrats underscore, without doing much to push it out themselves, the notion that Ann Romney, whose husband was a success in business, may not have had a life similar to some swing voters' lives, despite how hard she worked raising her kids.

Also worth noting — Messina's line that family should be "off limits." Given the criticisms that Michele Obama has received over the years, it seems likely that Rosen's comment will be highlighted by Democrats if something comes up in the future.

UPDATE: Rosen appears to have rewritten her Huffington Post blog post last night; the line about Romney hiding behind his wife's skirt is no longer there, and now the column mirrors one that ran on CNN's website.

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What is a Democratic Operative? - Just another person off the street?

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Is this a certified and sanctioned position?

It's the same thing as a Republican Operative - the liberals commonly refer to - nm

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Media talking heads - on both sides. nm

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Tough Job - Cadillac Mom

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Another non-issue on many levels. However, growing up in a family with a single working parent, in a family that NEVER accepted food stamps, etc., the comparison is not even comprehensible.

Precisely the point the phoney outrage - is trying to obscure.

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Poor word choice, granted. Apology for that evidently not accepted. Instead the GOP camp seizes the moment and tries to tell themselves Mama-Grizzley-gate is going to bury their ongoing assault on reproductive rights in the sand and magically make Romney's women problems go poof.

This would be the same Romney who dragged out Reps. Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) and Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) and hid behind their skirts while they tried to compensate for the "duh" moment one of his staffers had the day before when questioned about the Lily Ledbetter Act. He ended up with both feet in his mouth instead of one, since Bono and Rodgers voted against equal pay for women, along with scores of other GOP women in the House and Senate.

Equal pay and reproductive rights are not the only bones women have to pick with the party. Personally, I still can't get past the mother of all issues....the fact that, thanks to folks like Phyllis Schlafly and her conservative support groups (Southern whites, Evangelical Christians, Mormons, Orthodox Jews, and Roman Catholics), we can't even get the Equal Rights Amendment ratified in this country.

Time for me to go starch my apron, take the cookies out of the oven, pick the kids up from school, cook a 3-course dinner, slip into something sexy and greet the breadwinner with a double martini and 3 olives when he gets home later. Shades of June Cleaver.

This is as bogus as the feigned moral outrage - over Rush and Fluke

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Nothing bogus about that moral outrage. - nm

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Rush and Fluke - Bogus, bogus, bogus -nm

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Mantra chants dont turn lies into truth and are - silly, silly, silly. nm

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silly, silly silly - poster gives you someone new to stalk - nm

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Rush and Fluke still BOGUS, BOGUS, BOGUS - Follow your own advice silly-silly-silly

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distraction for ADD nation - somebody said

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something about somebody. exciting. now look over there. loud door slams. people jump. latest "star" to get lipo. The beatgoeson.

meanwhile all the motherlovers - are silent

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On this week's appearances of the aspirin-tween-the-knees rich older joker appearing on programs endorsing Romney. He made the statement that he hoped Obama's teleprompter was bulletproof, but obviously that was just a slipppppppp of the tongue.

They are also silent when it comes to defending the - FLOTUS from attacks. nm

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I had to laugh at this one. - Zville MT

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Wasn't it the dems that demonized Sarah Palin for NOT being a stay-at-home mom with her 5 kids just a few years ago?

And wasn't it then candidate Obama that said the press better lay off his wife?

I've been a stay-at-home mom for more than 11 years now and there have been many times I've been looked down on by "working moms" or had comments been made about me, such as "Enjoying the soaps and the bon-bons?" We live paycheck to paycheck, have filed for bankruptcy, and lost a house to foreclosure, but never for one day did I regret the choice to stay home and take care of my children. Isn't that what women's rights is supposed to be all about - choice?

Poor choice of words on the part of Rosen. sm - oldtimer

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Her comment was made because Romney said his wife was his go-to person when it came to advice on women's hard economic issues, you know, like women that have to juggle work and a family and don't have the "choice" to stay home, like women who lose their jobs and are worried about how they are going to pay rent and buy food. Everyone knows that stay-at-home moms work hard, but Mrs. Romney just doesn't have the same life experience when it comes to economic issues. She never HAD to work outside the home and never had to worry about paying the bills. I applaud her for staying home and raising five boys, but she was lucky to be able to make that choice.

agree - poor word choice - former trophy wife

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My experience was that the wealthy over-50 wives looked down on women working. At a dinner one commented she saw a mother drive up in a BMW to drop her child off at daycare and wondered why the mother worked. So maybe Rosen meant class difference rather than working mother difference. The wealthy ladies I met were very dismissive of women's rights. Just sharing my personal experiences.

Agree - mbmt

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Ann Romney seems like a lovely person and good mother, but I hardly think she can relate to what most women deal with as far as economic issues, working, and raising families. I would imagine when she was raising her boys, and I think that is wonderful that she did, that she had hired help and did not have to fear losing her home or not having enough money to make ends meet.

none of them have - sm

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And I doubt ANY of the presidental candidate's wives in recent years have had those struggles, Democrat or Republican.

I agree - I know Michelle doesn't have those struggles - sm

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She certainly does not know/understand the struggles most women/mothers in America face.

Laughing - ZVille - Conservative

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I was off the board so I could file my taxes. Looking at the entries on this board, hard to tell which was more brutal...LOL...the hypocritical comments attacking women or paying for the large portion of the 46% on the public dole that are too lazy to care for themselves. (To save the flamers ink, this excludes the approximate 5% truly in need and require help. This applies to the ones too lazy to take an interest in their own lives.)

I bet if you ask your kids where they would rather have you, out attacking Republican/Conservative women or being at home with them, you know what their answer would be. My mother put her career on hold (for the OWS flamers, she was a bank VP; she started in the mailroom and worked her way up - foreign concept to OWS) to raise 7 children. She did a fantastic job at both. My entire family, inlcuding my father, loved having her at home and were also tremendously proud of her "outisde" career. Not one time in my mother's 85+ years did she ever make one comment about regretting her life choices. She often said the most satisfying time of her life was being there to watch her children grow, and guide them into being independent, self-sufficient, educated adults.

I am sure my mother, as you, made many sacrifices for her family, but she made sure we always knew how important family was/is to this day. The honor and respect we have for my mother has enriched her life far more than attacking another woman for her life choices ever could, attacks which seem to be acceptable and ignored if the attacks come from the Democrats and liberals. So much for tolerance and acceptance of "life styles".

Pres. Obama throws Hilary Rosen - Under the bus

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Hilary is employed by Obama reelection campaign along with Anita Dunn, Obama has paid them MILLIONS, HR has made 35+ trips to White House in 3 years, at least 5 with Obama face-to-face, yet on national TV last night, Obama pretended like he never heard of her, didn't know her and would not even address her by name. So much for BO's loyalty to the ones working on his re-election. Situation orchestrated by Obama's campaign backfired big time on the Democrats.

First Obama's women - are underpaid

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according to a previous post. Now one is paid MILLIONS. Get it together. check with your propaganda coordinator so you dont screw up the message again.

Get YOUR facts straight - Wow - must have hit a lib nerve here

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YOUR coordinator must be at her shock treatments. I will break this down for you to a sixth grade level so you can easily comprehened the written word. Please read slowly so as to grasp the meaining. Anita Dunn/Hilary Rosen work together at a liberal/democratic, democratic/consulting/democratic strategy firm. Hilary Rosen sells herself as a democratic strategist. THEY openly acknowledge they have been paid approximately 1.5 million by BO's campaing for re-election.

Now slowly repeat - Get it it together, check the facts, so you don't write such humiliating, nonfactual, uninformed, silly posts.

Face it - Obama has a "war against women" and didn't hesitate long enough to blink an eye to throw HR under the bus, run her over and then back up and do it again to sacrifice her to the Dem gods of lies and dirty tricks.

Obama's war on women. - see link

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tell it to lilly ledbetter - nm

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Do you have a link to verify this? - mbmt

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Republicans claim that Hilary Rosen is working for the Obama re-election campaign and for the DNC, but others say that's not true.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/the-morning-plum-seeing-through-gop-spin-on-hilary-rosen-controversy/2012/04/13/gIQA2btsET_blog.html

Rosen and White House ties - Some - not all

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Hilary Rosen, Frequent White House Visitor

By Jim Geraghty
April 12, 2012 8:08 A.M. Comments
48A Democratic consultant with ties to the Obama administration sneering that Ann Romney “never worked a day in her life” is an opportunity for the Romney campaign, but a small problem in the big picture. In the big picture, women who are unable to find work in Obama’s economy are a bigger one.

Having said that, White House visitor logs indicate that “Hilary Rosen” visited the White House 35 times.

Gen. David Petraeus, head of our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the current CIA director, nine times.

Further perspective: Energy Secretary Stephen/Steve Chu visited 16 times. (Guests are listed by name, not by title, so it is theoretically possible these totals count a separate person with the same name. In the case of Chu, I’m presuming he is the one listing of “Steve Chu” as well as the 15 “Stephen Chu” listings.)

Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki has visited 19 times.

Former CIA director and current Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, 12 times.

Perhaps most surprisingly, the name “Joseph R. Biden” appears . . . 6 times.

At least Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner managed to get into the White House more frequently than Rosen, but not by much. He has visited 40 times.

So the notion that Rosen is just some Democrat talking head, completely disconnected from the Obama administration and campaign is . . . not plausible.

UPDATE: Arriving in my e-mailbox this morning:

ROSEN & SKDKNICKERBOCKER CONNECTIONS TO OBAMA/DNC

Hilary Rosen Is A Frequent Visitor To The Obama White House And Advised The White House On Messaging During The Obamacare Debates:

Hilary Rosen Visited The Obama White House At Least 35 Times. (White House Website, www.whitehouse.gov, Accessed 4/11/12)

Rosen Advised The Obama White House On Messaging During The Obamacare Debates. “Demonstrating the political element of the health care debate, the records show that senior adviser Axelrod held what was described as a ‘communications message meeting’ on March 13 with 18 people, including prominent Democratic strategists Brad Woodhouse, the party’s communications director, and his predecessor Karen Finney; Steve McMahon, a campaign veteran and media strategist; Hilary Rosen, the former top lobbyist for the music industry; Jennifer Palmieri of the liberal Center for American Progress, John Edwards’ former press secretary and a veteran of the Clinton White House; Maria Cardona, a specialist in Hispanic outreach at the Dewey Square Group; and Simon Rosenberg a founder of the centrist New Democrat Network.” (“Records Show White House Health Care Talks,” The Associated Press, 11/25/09)

The Obama Campaign Enlisted Rosen’s Help As A Political And Media Advisor To The DNC:

The Obama Campaign Enlisted Hilary Rosen As An Advisor To DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz. “Obama advisers have occasionally told her to ‘tone it down’ and ‘back off a smidgen,’ Ms. Wasserman Schultz says. She agreed with them to enlist two seasoned Democratic female pros, Anita Dunn and Hilary Rosen, to begin giving her occasional political advice and media training, advisers say.”(Monica Langley, “Combative Top Democrat Gains Clout In Campaign,” The Wall Street Journal, 2/16/12)

Rosen’s Firm, SKDKnickerbocker, Is A Paid Advisor To The DNC And Played A Prominent Role In The Obama White House & 2008 Campaign:

Since 2010, Hilary Rosen Has Served As Managing Director Of SKDKnickerbocker. “Hilary B. Rosen is a well-known Washington, DC strategist who effectively navigates the intersection of communications, media, and politics. Rosen joined SKDKnickerbocker in 2010 and specializes in the firm’s strategic communications and public relations practice.” (SKDKnickerbocker Website, www.skdknick.com, Accessed 4/12/12)

Former Obama White House Communications Director Anita Dunn Also Serves As A Managing Director At SKDKnickerbocker. “Since returning to SKDKnickerbocker after serving as White House Communications Director for President Barack Obama, Anita has developed SKDK’s public relations and strategic communications practice.” (SKDKnickerbocker Website,www.skdknick.com, Accessed 4/12/12)

During The 2012 Election Cycle, SKDKnickerbocker Has Been Paid At Least $120,864 By The DNC For Media Consulting, Communications Consulting, And Media Production. (CQ MoneyLine Website, politicalmoneyline.cq.com, Accessed 4/12/12)

SKDKnickerbocker’s Website Includes A Section Highlighting Their “Broad Role” In The Obama 2008 Campaign. (SKDKnickerbocker Website, www.skdknick.com, Accessed 4/12/12)

Not quite. - sm

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"Anita Dunn/Hilary Rosen work together at a liberal/democratic, democratic/consulting/democratic strategy firm." Check. They sure do, but it's kinda odd you didn't mention the name of that firm. SKD Knickerbocker. Was that omission deliberate or just an innocent oversight? The only reason I'm asking is because, once armed with that info, the truth of the matter is just a click away.

"Hilary Rosen sells herself as a democratic strategist." Most definitely. How qualified she is to actually make that claim is rather unclear. I can't come up with a single candidate she has successfully propelled into office, can you? Last time I checked, TV pundits do not fall into that category. You seem to have your houses mixed up. Her "ties" were with the legislative branch of government. She was a record industry lobbyist (1987 to 2003) for the Recording Industry Association of America. She resigned in 2003 to spend more time with her partner (Rosen is lesbian) and their adopted twins. In other words, she CHOOSE TO BE A STAY-AT-HOME-MOM, which she did for 5 years. During that time, she had a brief interim consulting position for an LGBT human rights organization and worked intermittently from home as a consultant. Her next paid job was in 2008, when she signed on as a pundit with CNN. BTW, Rosen did not vote for Obama in 2008. She was an ardent, outspoken Hillary Clinton supporter.

"THEY (implicitly Dunn/Rosen) openly acknowledge they have been paid approximately 1.5 million by BO's campaign for re-election." Big fat lie. THEY would be the firm itself, who reported receiving $120,000 in 2010 for their services. They were not retained to provide policy advice. They did consult with the DNC regarding media services and PR, which were provided exclusively by ANITA DUNN, not Hilary Rosen.

I wouldn't exactly call responding to this pathetic attempt to drum up an imaginary "war on moms," which actually seeks to pit women against each other, throwing anybody under any bus. Most women have the saavy to understand exactly what Rosen was talking about and will never take the bait the GOP is trying to throw out there. This divide and conquer strategy coming out of the GOP camp is just one more in a long line of insults they (RNC chairman included) have hurled at women ever since Limbaugh had his slut rant which, if I am not mistaken, not a single primary candidate, including the Rominee, had the cajones to denounce. So much for respect for the female gender.

Guess you need more research - and anger management classes.

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BTW - If you don't like the way Hilary touts herself, democratic strategist, take it up with her. She chose the title. As for the firm name, if you read any info, watched any show, you would know who she worked for. Can't take all your fun away by telling you everything, doing all your research, otherwise, "Debbie" you'd have no where to put all your fake, manufactured outrage.

P.S. Guess she's not very good at her job since according to you she propelled no one into office. Check your figures, too....way off. As for the Dem's talking points you covered them all Debbie Wasserman-Schultz!

We hold these truths to be self evident. - Especially last paragraph. nm

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Greta's opinion. - sm

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She spoke to Karl Rove on her program and defended Hilary. She also expressed that she thought the democrats "war on women" was bogus.

ironic - righty

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Isn't it rather ironic that President Barack Hussein Obama and the Democrats say that Republicans are waging a war on women, while at the same time he, his administration, and Democrats embrace/support Islamic law, or sharia?

Just in time for his re-election effort, Obama has hit upon a re-election strategy by accusing Republicans of waging a "war on women" via attempts to cut off taxpayer funding of Planned Parenthood, among other things. Obama and his administration accused Republicans of hating women for not wanting to see the Catholic Church hand out free birth control that is contrary to Church doctrine. How ironic, considering Obama's view of Islam.

Democrat efforts to frame recent Republican policies as part of a larger "war on women" took another step forward Sunday, April 8, 2012, on CNN's State of the Union. Democrat National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz portrayed Republicans as "turning back the clock for women."

Wasserman-Schultz said to State of the Union host Candy Crowley, "You have Republicans that have engaged themselves for the entire Congress on trying to redefine rape as only being forceful rape, defunding Planned Parenthood and family planning programs."

Now let's turn our attention to what Obama and Democrats are doing at the same time that the above is going on.

No president in American history has admired Islam more than Obama, nor has he missed an opportunity to speak well of the religion. He has made it clear from the time he first took office that he would pursue a policy of pandering to the Islamic community. So, with Obama's actions in mind, let's see what the Qur'an, the basis for Islamic law, or sharia, says:

Men are superior to women. Qur'an 4:34: Men are the maintainers of women, with what Allah has made some of them to excel others and with what they spend out of their wealth. So the good women are obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded.

Men are to admonish (scourge) women. Qur'an 4:34: And (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the beds and chastise them. So if they obey you, seek not a way against them.

Men can have sexual relations with wives and concubines. Qur'an 23:5-6: And who restrain their sexual passions - Except in the presence of their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for such surely are not blameable.

Women are of inferior intelligence. Qur'an 2:282: And call to witness from among your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses, so that if one of the two errs, the one may remind the other.

Women have a dress code. Qur'an 7:26: O children of Adam, We have indeed sent down to you clothing to cover your shame, and (clothing) for beauty; and clothing that guards against evil - that is the best. This is of the messages of Allah that they may be mindful. Qur'an 33:59: O Prophet, tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of believers to let down upon them their over-garments. This is more proper, so that they may be known, and not be given trouble.

In Islam, there is no prohibition in the use of contraception; however, the Qur'an is quite clear regarding birth control involving surgery. Qur'an 30:30: There is no altering Allah's creation. Qur'an 40:64: ... and He formed you, then made goodly your forms[.]

See also "Islamic Laws for Women" for more information.

Obama embraces the Muslim Brotherhood (MB), the terrorist group that has as its governing platform the imposition of sharia law, which would send Egyptian women into lives of degradation and oppression. The MB looks to capture the Egyptian Parliament and, after pledging not to, is now running a candidate for president of Egypt. This appears to be fine with Obama, as he has released $1.5 billion in foreign aid to Egypt, whose "war on women" is very real and will have lasting consequences.

Egyptian clerics said Khairat el-Shater, the MB candidate for president, pledged to them that he would introduce sharia if he is elected in May. The imposition of sharia in Egypt will make women in that country no better than chattel, discriminated against by both law and religious custom.

In November 2011, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton declared that the Obama administration would work with ascendant Islamist parties of the Muslim world. While she reached out to the religious-rooted parties expected to gain power in Egypt, Clinton said nothing about changing U.S. policies toward Hezb'allah and Hamas.

After decades of partnering with dictators throughout the region, Clinton's message was that the U.S. would approach the new political landscape with an open mind and the understanding that long-term support for democracy trumps any short-term advantages through alliances with authoritarian regimes.

While Obama and Democrats are doing these things, they are supporting a terrorist group that has as its governing platform the imposition of sharia, which would send Egyptian women into lives of "having the clock turned back." Is this the view of society that Obama has for women if re-elected? All we have to go on are his actions since his election in 2008.

So who is really waging war on women?

One thing that makes the "war on women" argument even more difficult for Obama is that he and Democrats demand to be judged on their intentions regardless of the actual outcomes caused by their policies. Where is the MSM regarding the "war on women" and Obama's and Democrats' actions? Oh, yeah, I forgot (not really). The MSM is just a tool of Obama and Democrats.

Great post righty - Conservative

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In my entire lifetime, I have never seen anyone follow, with such complete blind devotion, any president like the current Democrats and Liberals follow this one. No matter how much he lies, distorts, destroys, they refuse to see anything but perfection in Obama. If there was any common sense applied to Obama at all, it would be that no matter how much someone wants to believe it, no single person is perfect and has flaws. In reading posts on here with anyone disagreeing with outright adulation of Obama and his regime, they were answered with maniacal, hateful insults. Really sad there is such destruction going on by Obama and, whenever it is pointed out, Obama supporters go absolutely crazy. Guess that is where your mental status has to be to follow Obama like a dog after a bone.

How old are you? Do you remember president... - sm

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Reagan, JFK? Foldlore heros years later. Neither of them were perfect,(far from it). Remember Nixon? Obama is not perfect, neither was Bush, no human being is. I do not think President Obama is the messiah and Michele the virgin Mary and neither do most rational Americans. I do think he is doing his very best to represent ALL Americans.

I disagree - what if

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Many people DO think Obama is the messiah. Have you listened to the voters in the country? Have you listened to Farrakan? Black Panthers? Maybe you don't but many people do, which is pretty scary.

By his actions I do not think he is doing his very best to best represent "ALL" Americans. Because of his actions, his words, his speeches, his writings I believe he is doing the best for only some of the people. I've never seen a president in my lifetime or even in history that openly alienates certain individuals in the country. Candidate Obama promised the country every gimick he could think of. Some fell for it, others didn't. Elected Obama fell through on his promises and quickly alienated certain groups of people in the country and he doesn't even care that it's so obvious. Oh he's protecting certain individuals alright. I do know he's doing his very best to represent (and protect) the 1%ers, bankers, CEOs, wall street, and the foreign interests.

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My memory is very good - Conservative

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My post clearly stated NO ONE WAS PERFECT. I did not leave out you or myself in that equation so it seemed odd that your first sentence included a jab as if I stated otherwise. I do not believe Obama has any interest in serving the American people, or representing all Americans. I have also heard Obama say that being elected, the tides would roll back, the oceans would recede, and he was what the world has been waiting for. Again, I stand by my original post. I have never in my lifetime seen such an arrogant, obnoxious, power-crazy man such as Obama or so many people blindly follow him through the destruction of American, all the while with adoration, and completely blind as to how it will impact them personally.

Rational Americans see through all Obama's bull, and can see Obama for the divider he truly is.

And for the record again, since you seemed to miss it in my original post. NO HUMAN IS PERFECT.

Rational - mbmt

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You think that anyone who supports President Obama is not rational. Well, his supporters probably think the people who post all of the lies about him are not rational, and the carrying on and on about how awful he is gets old. Actually, when I read things like what you wrote about people thinking he is the messiah and blindly following him through the destruction of America, it makes me laugh. It could be that we simply do not view President Obama as some sort of demon like the other side apparently does.

Rational -mbmt - Conservative

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If you had bothered to read the entire thread you would see the "rational" comment was a direct quote from a liberal insulting anyone not agreeing with Obama. The constant Obama worship got old 01/23/2009 and still is.

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Why so angry Conservative? - mbmt

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Actually, I do not have a huge problem with you or your posts. I am sorry you feel that way. As for my posts having no substance, well, I suppose if you are a conservative then you would feel that way because we probably do not view things the same way.

Democrats/liberals that support President Obama do not view him as a messiah and do not follow him blindly. He just happens to be the person we think will do the best job.

Just have to say - mbmt

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Why the hostility? It was just about a week or two ago that I shared my story with you about being stalked on this message board because you were having problems with someone. Please read your own posts before you criticize me. Is there substance in making comments that Democrats/liberals who support President Obama think he is the messiah and follow him blindly? I don't think so.

Would have to say the same about your hostility - Conservative

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In your post, you immediately attacked me for a comment made by a Democrat. When it was pointed out to you that I was RESPONDING to a Democrat slur, you then turned and attacked me personally.

Your comment stating you know the demeanor of a complete total stranger is very odd and assumes quite a bit without you having any knowledge.

As for the problem I wrote about several days with someone forging messages under my name, all you need do is look at the caustic comments directed to me personally for posts I did not make. Those posters could not wait to pile on with insults just because I have the guts to sign my messages with the moniker "Conservative". They continued their nasty remarks, knowing that I was being forged. What assumptions does that tell you about their character? That it is quite lacking. No interest in finding out the facts behind the forger(s), just the desire to insult. Perhaps, I should use the nm, sm as so many do, and those doing so will not have any idea who writes what.

As for any poster on this board, I have maintained exactly the same position. No matter how much I may disagree, they have a right to post what they want. As you, if I do not like a post, I also have freedom to respond to that poster.

It is very unfortunate that you cannot make a comment without attacking someone personally, their character or making comments about what you think the demeanor is of a complete total stranger to you.

No matter how odd and lack of fact I find your posts, I would defend you right post them without making assumptions in regards to your character, a courtesy you have not afforded me.

Enjoy your weekend!

You enjoy your weekend also. - mbmt

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Peace.

Reread your post - mbmt

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I read over your post again tonight and the following is quoted from your post about me. "The tone of almost every post you make is to insult or ridicule someone who does not agree with you; following posters you do not like all over the board, posting nasty comments." That is a lie (yes, I said it) and particularly the part about following posters I do not like all over the board. I do not in general reply to any particular person (cannot tell who most posters are since they do not use the same moniker consistently), and you are wrong if you think I am rude to everyone on the board. You really need to take a look at yourself before you say things like that. Actually, I think you have been quite rude to me and others who do not agree with your opinions.

Garbage in.... - Gargage out....nm

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Excellent post - what if - sm

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This is a good post. I'm sure you will get the flamers come after you since you have posted something that goes against their lord.

The post was correct on all points mentioned. It's really a sad day in these times when they defend something they obviously know is wrong.

Love your posts. Thanks.

Ironic goldie - Conservative

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Completely agree with goldie and what if. The flamers on here take attacking anyone not agreeing with them to the brink of insanity. If facts are presented to negate their opinion stated as fact, out come the personal attacks. Pretty much the same thing hapened with Ann Romney. Democrats and liberals try so hard to keep their mask of compassion in place for any of their chosen few, but when it involves displaying compassion for someone out of their camp, the mask falls away and you see them for what they are, full-blown hypocrites.

No one should be attacked like Romney, Palin or Clinton was, regardless of their party affiliation, and any woman that cannot see that has some serious mental issues.

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