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Posted: Apr 15, 2011

The state's investigation into vote irregularities in Waukesha County will stretch back at least five years. In many cases, the number of votes totaled more than the number of ballots cast. This is the district where Prosser won by the "found" 7,000 votes.

See link. No comment.

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And here is the rest - of the story...

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â��Itâ��s important to stress this isnâ��t a case of extra votes or extra ballots being found,â�� she said. â��This is error, which I apologize for, which is common in this process.â��

Nickolaus said the county's Board of Canvassers has been meeting since noon Wednesday and the error was found Wednesday. However, she didnâ��t report it until Thursday after verifying the error was made.

Waukesha County Executive Dan Vrakas was not critical of the missed votes.

â��It is an unfortunate situation, but the most important thing is that every vote was counted and was verified and in the hands of the Government Accountability Board," said Vrakas, who like Nickolaus is an active Republican.

Ramona Kitzinger, vice chairman of the Waukesha County Democratic Party and the appointed Democrat on the Waukesha County Board of Canvassers, said she was confident the revised vote totals were accurate, despite the blow to Kloppenburg's bid.

"We went over everything and made sure all the numbers jibed up and they did," Kitzinger said.

After news of the increased Prosser votes leaked but before Nickolaus' press conference, Brookfield City Clerk Kristine Schmidt said she had not been notified by the county of any vote reporting problems.

"The votes that I had on Tuesday night, the votes I reported to the county clerk on Tuesday night, and the votes I turned over to the county clerk on Wednesday were the same numbers in each instance," Schmidt said.

"What they did with those votes afterward I canâ��t answer," she added.

After watching Nickolaus' press conference, Schmidt said in an interview that she empathized with the error. But she was not happy Nickolaus never told Brookfield about the snafu, even when Schmidt talked to Nickolaus earlier Thursday. Schmidt said she also called the county clerk's office shortly before the press conference but was not told what happened.

"It can be considered a simple mistake, a mistake with wide-ranging results," Schmidt said.

"I was a little perturbed that I was not informed as to what had happened," the city clerk said.

Schmidt said when she talked to Nickolaus earlier Thursday, the county clerk had apologized for being short.

"She said that she was sorry and she was probably upset, that she was having a horrible day, probably the worst day of her life," Schmidt said. "I said I was really sorry to hear that. It must be really difficult to do that (canvass) with people hanging over your heads."

But Nickolaus never mentioned to Schmidt that the county failed to count Brookfield's votes.

On election night, the City of Brookfield reported that Prosser received 10,859 votes from city residents, or 76 percent of the vote, compared to the 3,456 votes cast for challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg. The Brookfield Patch reported those numbers in a story with chart posted about 12:30 a.m. election night.

Schmidt said her office also posted the results on the city's web site before going home on election night.

Nickolaus said that the Waukesha County voting results also changed in two other communities: New Berlin and the Town of Lisbon. The results for New Berlin's Ward 12 was reported as 37 votes for Prosser but the voting machine tape showed 237 votes.

In the Town of Lisbon, a "typing error" reduced the vote totals for both candidates, decreasing Prosser's total by 206 votes and Kloppenburg's by 35 votes.

The link to entire article is:
http://brookfield-wi.patch.com/articles/additional-votes-found-in-waukesha-county-canvassing

I get so tired of innuendo...sigh. There may have been problems in the past, but the city itself says that Prosser got 76% of the vote in that town, they know how many votes they counted, and the Democrat on the canvassing board said she is satisfied the totals are now correct.

Can we just stop beating this dead horse?

Apparently you have not updated your info - sm

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These election results that are being investigated now go back FIVE YEARS, which you would know if you checked the link.

Further: Ramona Kitzinger, Waukesha Canvasser, said:

" ... As I told Kathy when I was called into the room I am 80 years old and I don't understand anything about computers. I don't know where the numbers Kathy was showing me ultimately came from, but they seemed to add up. I am still very, very confused about why the canvass was finalized before I was informed of the Brookfield error and it wasn't even until the press conference was happening that I learned it was this enormous mistake that could swing the whole election. I was never shown anything that would verify Kathy's statement about the missing vote, and with how events unfolded and people citing me as an authority on this now, I feel like I must speak up."

Apparently your dead horse is not so dead. Are you uninformed or purposely speading false information?

First question.....are you always this nasty - or is it just today? That

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being said, do you have a source for this other than a liberal blog i.e. firedoglake? Thanks in advance.

Secondly, even if the Dems in Waukesha County browbeat this poor little old lady into changing her story at this late date...the fact remains that the city clerk of Brookfield states that Prosser did get 75% of the vote in that city, so the votes were not "concocted."

You are deliberately uninformed and spread false and misleading information with the best of them. You might want to climb down off that high horse before you fall off and hurt yourself.

You know where that statement came from? - Posted on the Waukesha

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County Democratic party website. Not signed or anything, just posted on their site. When I got to the part about "I told her I am 80 years old and don't know anything about computers" I laughed OUT LOUD. The idea that they would put someone like that as their canvasser when they KNOW there have been supposed irregularities in that office BEFORE is ridiculous, unless the Democrats in that county are stupid beyond belief.

Which I don't believe they are...they are just floating this so-called "statement" as damage control. Too little, too late, and shame on them for throwing ol' Ramona under the bus...but then Democrats seem to throw each other under the bus with great regularity.

You are as bad as you call OP...you deliberately spread unsubstantiated information as truth, delivered with the snarling condescending attitude liberals are famous for.

Horse IS dead, and the Waukesha County Democrats need to just hush because frankly, they are just embarrassing themselves by trashing poor ol' Ramona.

I hope you like this link better - see link

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I am sorry you didn't like the other source. Perhaps you will like this one better.

Sure I like it...lol. They are the ones who first - quoted Ramona as

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saying the numbers jibed.

"Ramona Kitzinger, vice chairwoman of the Waukesha County Democratic Party who observed the canvass, said she is satisfied the county\'s numbers are now correct.

"We went over everything and made sure all the numbers jibed up and they did." she said.

I guess they are flip-flopping now?

So the Dem party of Waukesha County is now saying that the vice-chairwoman is an 80-year-old who knows nothing about computers or verifying counts and is unable to insure the accuracy of counts...I thought that was what the job of a canvasser was...to verify counts.

This is ridiculous. There is nothing to this. She told the truth the first time but it was not beneficial to them so now they are doing a major flip flop and all of a sudden their own canvasser is incompetent.

The horse is still dead.

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