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Posted: Jun 11, 2015

Fifty or so teachers and administrators with the Lebanon School District in Pennsylvania, including the superintendent, were just given a day of specialized training on Islam – at taxpayers’ expense – that wrapped with them hitting the floors of a local mosque, in the required shoeless fashion, and partaking of the faith’s call to prayer. Can you say what the –? Or better yet, how about imaging this “what if” scenario: Fifty or so teachers and administrators with one Pennsylvania school district were just given a day of specialized training on the Baptist faith – at taxpayers’ expense – that wrapped with them hitting the sanctuary of a local church and joining the congregation in prayer. Now is it outrageous? The Lebanon Daily News first reported the day-long Muslim-inspired venture, describing it as a way for school officials to learn more about their district’s growing Arabic population – in much the same vein they would for, say, Hispanics. In other words, it’s a cultural divide thang. At the same time, there’s no way the politically correct crowd would handshake any deal that brought teachers to a Christian church during the tax-paid school day. In that instance, the loudly proclaimed denial would be: “It’s separation of church and state!” But with Islam, at the Lebanon school district, the Islam training and mosque visit seemed necessary educational experiences. ;

Separation of Church and State crowd, where - are you? NM

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NM

My very liberal/separation of church and state self would be - saying a big hell

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no to all of that. I'm an unapologetic Christian but believe the 2 should remain separated (bible and prayer clubs should be allowed at school just like any other club allowed). This, on the other hand, is absurdity. No. Just no. No.

How in the world did this country get to this point? - I keep asking myself that

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question.

I don't know, but as long as we keep allowing it to happen (sm) - nm

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and don't raise a stink, we will be under Sharia Law in a few years, even though your President thinks climate change is the most important issue of the day.

Because the religious right keeps injecting it - into government, business, now schools.

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When they inject Christianity, all others need - to be accommodated also

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And, if you are going to accommodate for something you need to have some idea of what it is about. Thus, perhaps the day of education about Islam. Really depends on how this was done, was it required, enforced, and I really doubt it involved any conversion! The only sources I can find are so right wing I can't tell what they really were doing.

I think they may be (errmmm), EDUCATING themselves so as to handle situations regarding their Muslim population with compassion and insight.

Christianity has been taken out, so why are letting - Allah in?

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nm

Hit the nail on the head - anonie

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If you ask me, it is in our government and is going on to our individual states and it will continue until we get this president out of office and that Valerie Jarrett person.

Sorry but a Christian does not let in evil. They fight evil.

If we don't stop this madness, we won't have a country. It will have been taken over by the illegals and the Islamists, terrorists and all.

If these people want their religion and sharia law, then they need to go to a country that practices that. But of course, they want to make our country their country with all the bad stuff including their religion and their laws.

Too much right wing propaganda - fear-mongering

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No sharia law--just fearmongering trying to rally the masses to impose Christianity-based education on everyone, making way for Bibles and salutes to the Christian flag.

Salute a Christian flag? - That's a new one.....

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Talk about paranoid....

Yes, indeedy there is a Christian flag - and it is said allegiance

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to --- just like our national flag. I have experienced this personally. This is not something "I heard" or "someone wrote about."

Perhaps extreme in thinking this could happen, but I never thought we would be discussing using Bibles in science class either.

Satan believes in God. It's what you do with - that belief that matters.NM

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NM

No, too many buzzwords from the MSM - sm

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trying to indoctrinate the naive and it appears to be working. The libs are following lockstep as desired by their leaders.

I think it's funny that of all people, Christians - are worried about "indoctrination."

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After all, they invented it, didn't they?

No, not being taken out, being injected - Bibles in classrooms

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Creationism in textbooks.

I see the correlation in God being rejected in society and - an escalation in lawlessness, not the

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other way around.

So you think we should have religion in our government? - questioning

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Wouldn't that be theocracy? We'd then be in the same company as Iran, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen, among others.

There's only one problem with your "correlation": It's patently false. - Crime in America is actually down. - sm

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It's Incredible How Much Safer America Has Become Since The 1980s

Erin Fuchs
Jan. 27, 2015

Violent crime and property crime in America both decreased in the first half of 2014, the FBI said in a new preliminary report released Tuesday.

The FBI's latest crime statistics reflects a long-term trend. Even though America's local police are more militarized than ever, the crime rate has been steadily falling in the past two decades.

In the 1980s property crime and violence were both much more common, spurring politicians to bill themselves as "tough on crime" in order to get elected in America. (Presidential candidate Michael Dukakis famously lost against George H.W. Bush, who ran a tough-on-crime campaign.)

These days that tough-on-crime rhetoric isn't as common, and there's a excellent reason why. Crime stats consistently show that the country is getting safer.

In 2013, the number of murders in America dropped 4.4% to 14,196 — down signifcantly from its peak of 24,703 in 1991. The drop in homicides is even more obvious when you look at individual cities that once had bad reputations.

New York recorded 2,245 homicides at its peak in 1990 but only 328 by 2014. Los Angeles had 2,589 homicides in 1992 but only 254 last year.

Washington, D.C., a much smaller city, saw its murder number decline from a peak of 443 homicides in 1992 to only 105 last year.

Michael Dukakis' perceived weakness on crime cost him an election in 1988, back when America was more dangerous.

Overall, violent crimes including homicide, rape, aggravated assault, and robbery dropped 38% between 1992 and 2011.

The dramatic plunge in violent crime shocked many experts, who predicted America would just get more violent.

"Recent declines in rates of violent crime in the United States caught many researchers and policymakers off guard," criminology professor Gary LaFree wrote back in 1999. "These declines were perhaps more surprising in that they came on the heels of dire predictions about the rise of a generation of 'superpredators' who would soon unleash the full force of their destructive capacities on an already crime-weary nation."

Crime experts have yet to come up with a unified theory for why America has gotten so much safer. However, one of the more plausible reasons for the falling violent crime rate is that many cities in America have more police per capita than they used to — and those police officers have gotten better at doing their job.

An omnibus crime bill passed in 1994 provided funding for 100,000 new police officers in the US as and set aside $6.1 billion for crime prevention programs.

In reality, the number of cops on the street only increased by 50,000 to 60,000 in the 1990s, but that was still a bigger increase than in previous decades, according to Levitt's analysis of FBI data. In New York City, which had a particularly sharp drop in violent crime, the police force expanded by 35% in the 1990s.

The mere presence of more police officers can obviously be a big crime deterrent. During the 1990s, these police officers has also became more strategic — in part because they began to use computerized systems to track crimes and find out where they should deploy their officers.

So-called "hot spot policing" is one of the most effective new strategies, political scientist James Q. Wilson has written in The Wall Street Journal.

"The great majority of crimes tend to occur in the same places," Wilson writes. "Put active police resources in those areas instead of telling officers to drive around waiting for 911 calls, and you can bring down crime."

One Minneapolis-based study that Wilson cited found that for every minute a police officer spent at a "hot spot" more time passed before another crime was committed in that spot after he left.

There are other theories about why violent crime decreased, including that it was because America got its crack epidemic under control and because the US economy grew stronger.

Steven Levitt, the economist who wrote the best-seller "Freakonomics," proposed one of the more controversial theories about the crime drop, which was that the legalization of abortion in 1973 was partly responsible. If it weren't for abortion, the theory goes, many unwanted children would have been grown up to be criminals by the 1990s.

An even more bizarre theory ties the rise of lead in the atmosphere to increases in violent crime. Lead emissions rose from the 1940s to the 1960s, while crime rose from the 1960s through the 1980s — when children exposed to lead were becoming adults.

In an extensive look at the lead/violence theory, Kevin Drum of Mother Jones cited research that found "even moderately high levels of lead exposure are associated with aggressivity, impulsivity, ADHD, and lower IQ. And right there, you've practically defined the profile of a violent young offender."

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Google is your friend. In fact, there are thousands of stories out there about how crime is actually down on the whole. Gallup even does polling about people's perception of crime and how people think it is going up when it has actually been falling for decades. Those are the facts.

American culture and its leaders viewing God's laws as chains - and shackles was prophesied,

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The tares are taking over and it's an ugly situation.

Organized religion is the biggest ball & shackle - known to humanity.

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nm

Yes, someone, somewhere is chuckling at - the brainwashing of the masses

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Incredible work of fiction.

I have often thought for people it is either the Bible or mood stabilizers/anti-depressants. Unfortunately, for some it is both, depends on the brand of Christianity.

Religion is the opiate of the masses. Guess who - said that. nm

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nm

Marx--a philospher and not at all incorrect - sm

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Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions.
Karl Marx, Critique of Hegels Philosophy of Right

In the above quotation Marx is saying that religions purpose is to create illusory fantasies for the poor. Economic realities prevent them from finding true happiness in this life, so religion tells them that this is OK because they will find true happiness in the next life. Although this is a criticism of religion, Marx is not without sympathy: people are in distress and religion provides solace, just as people who are physically injured receive relief from opiate-based drugs.

Religion is a symptom of a disease, not the disease itself.

Still, it would be a mistake to think that Marx is uncritical towards religion it may try to provide heart, but it fails. For Marx, the problem lies in the obvious fact that an opiate drug fails to fix a physical injury it merely helps you forget pain and suffering. This may be fine up to a point, but only as long as you are also trying to solve the underlying problems causing the pain. Similarly, religion does not fix the underlying causes of peoples pain and suffering instead, it helps them forget why they are suffering and gets them to look forward to an imaginary future when the pain will cease.

Even worse, this drug is administered by the same oppressors who are responsible for the pain and suffering in the first place. Religion is an expression of more fundamental unhappiness and symptom of more fundamental and oppressive economic realities. Hopefully, humans will create a society in which the economic conditions causing so much pain and suffering would be eradicated and, therefore, the need for soothing drugs like religion will cease. Of course, for Marx such a turn of events isnt to be hoped for because human history was leading inevitably towards it.

http://atheism.about.com/od/weeklyquotes/a/marx01.htm

American culture was "prophesied" before America even existed? LOL - sm

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Mind supplying any kind of proof that anyone prophesied anything about American culture when America didn't even exist?

12 tribes of Israel, only 1 is Judah. We are descendants of Ephraim and - Manasseh. I would go further

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but I think I'll be wasting my time from the tone of the question.

Are you too coward to ask a Muslim to explain their faith? - Only Christians are challenged

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but we don't behead people or have suicide bombers.

Oh, wow! So you're a Christian? Who knew? - ROFLMBO - sm

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You said: "Are you too coward to ask a Muslim to explain their faith? Only Christians are challenged but we don't behead people or have suicide bombers."

Your little straw man argument in the form of a question suggesting I'm a coward is particularly absurd since I have absolutely no idea what faith ANY poster on a chat board actually belongs to unless they tell me in their post and I decide to take them at their word, you know, since they could be literally anybody claiming anything!

Actually, to be completely truthful and full disclosure, I had not even given a scintilla of thought whatsoever as to what religion you belonged. So you're a Christian... well, well... m'kay.

Since you asked about cowardice, I should tell you that I'm a military veteran of over 25 years... so... no, not remotely a coward and pretty handy to have around in a crisis if I do say so myself (thanks to my "Uncle" and your tax dollars). Some of my neighbors are actually Muslims, and we have discussed our different faiths many, many times over the course of about 10-11 years now. We actually met and got to know each other when some people from our neighborhood got together and knocked on their door and spent the next 6 hours cleaning their beautiful front yard of all the toilet paper that was "placed" there, a very nice family who were welcomed to our neighborhood by some idiots who decided to "decorate" in order to "welcome" them. The idiots who put the flowing "decorations" up were unaware that my home has multiple high definition cameras that were capturing them at work as they "decorated." I took my footage to the local police and they were able to use it to eventually identify the perpetrators. It was a few "nice" Christian families from a local "church." The adults got a hefty fine and permanent criminal records, but their minor children who helped them were luckier and got off easier because our neighbors whose house got "decorated" asked for lenience and no charges toward the children.

I was surprised one day several months later when they actually admitted to my husband and I that they thought we were the ones who actually had done it until we showed up at their door with reinforcements, refreshments, and videotape. We asked, "why us," and they explained that they had seen us in our Army uniforms. We all got a good laugh out of that for a long time.

Not all Christians and all Muslims can be lumped into single categories. The fact is, it's the extremist ones on both sides that are the ones you have to watch out for. I can tell you from extensive training and hands-on experience both domestic and abroad that the extremists on both sides share so many similarities that it is uncanny. As far as your statement that "we don't behead people or have suicide bombers," well of course Christians don't generally behead people in the traditional sense, but they do perform decapitation by other means such as bombs, lots of bombs, but not generally suicide bombers because it takes bravery to die for one's faith, and the majority of Christians generally just do the killing of others, but yes, absolutely lots of bombs, I assure you.

Google is your friend:
* Hutaree
* Christian Identity movement
* Army of God and Eric Rudolph
* Eastern Lightning a.k.a. Church of the Almighty God
* Phineas Priesthood
* Lord's Resistance Army
* National Liberation Front of Tripura
* Concerned Christians

I could go on, but that'll do. I don't judge all Christians by the extremists of the faith in the same way I don't judge all Muslims by ISIS and the extremists of their faith.

America is a nation that lost many thousands of her best and brightest, after all, in "Operation Iraqi Freedom, actually going over to another continent to "free the Iraqi people" (so they said) -- a country whose people are 95% plus Muslim -- and to keep the homeland safe (so they said), and we were among the soldiers just doing our job there.

I'm sure you would in turn love to lecture a Muslim on the - "virtues" of atheism. I'd

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LOVE to see that!

I couldn't do that since I don't know the "virtues of atheism." - sm

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I only "lecture" on what I practice, and I don't practice atheism, as I was raised a Christian. The only thing I know of atheism is that God is purported not to exist; other than that, I'm clueless on the issue, but I have studied all the Abrahamic religions. Regardless by what He is called in different languages, the Abrahamic religions believe in the one creator, the God of Abraham, YHWH, Adonai--He who must not be named, etc., and I have studied the main three Abrahamic religions down to their earliest origins through the point they become divergent and beyond. :)

Did you know, Muslims are exempt from criticism, especially - at college, but it's cool to

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criticize Christians.

Reminds me of the old joke, they found a cure for - apathy but no one was

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interested, if you get my point.

Pacified Education Group is also in schools, teaching - the concept of victimization

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Taxpayers are paying for this, too. It teaches that the education systems is "racist" towards black students. It lowers standards and does not suspend black students, only whites, ignoring violence. No discipline for bad behavior.

Some of the leftist sites today I read today are nothing but a firehose of - idiomatic vomit disguised as

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news. I'm sure this "victimization concept" will be hailed as leveling the playing field, when in truth it's nothing but a PC strategy and does nothing for the students.

Try reading Salon, it will make your eyes crossed and - your head explode. nomsg

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no msg

Most it sounds like the equivalent of someone who - wears "elevator shoes"

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to appear like journalism and lacks substance.

If you think liberal media is all "vomit", then - why do you read so much of it?

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Just curious.

Check out some of the idiocracy on twitter. I - NM

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NM

So why do you read them, then? - ...

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Why do people mock Fox News? - NM

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Nm

What does the Fox say? - Nothing of importance

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Because Fox deserves to be mocked.

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