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There is nothing in the Trumpcare bill that would lower premiums. nm
Posted: Jun 25, 2017
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Says who? - Thanks.
[ In Reply To ..]Please don't post vague declarations and post article or link where you got your information.
Otherwise you are just being argumentative and wasting your time.
You can read all the information available - old and burned out
[ In Reply To ..]The CBO has said millions will lose their insurance and the bill with neither lower costs or premiums. The bill stinks as do the people who wrote it. They will get richer and people will die.
OMG just post a link and save the drama - I do not have time to research
[ In Reply To ..]The drama in the post is what fires up the loons like the guy who showed up at the baseball park to shoot Republicans.
"People will die" says who? Lefty losers?
Here's a link - for full text
[ In Reply To ..]from Fox News, so must be legit. Enjoy!
http://nation.foxnews.com/2017/06/22/senate-healthcare-bill-read-full-text
This is interesting prediction of - Death spiral for insurance
[ In Reply To ..]We might get to preferred universal healthcare after all...
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/339256-experts-warn-gop-bill-could-destabilize-insurance-markets
Subject to interpretation but briefly - does it say "people will die?"
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I posted - a link
[ In Reply To ..]for the actual text - I did not say anything about people dying. Trouble brewing?
Obviously a poster read it and drew - conclusion "people will die"
[ In Reply To ..]That is what I wanted to know, where did the poster get the idea that because of this healthcare bill, "people will die."
I think this type of rhetoric caused the Bernie supporter to go out on a shooting spree at the Republican baseball practice and I have no doubt there are more people out there who are unbalanced who will strike again because of liberal statements like "people will die".
A link to democrats saying GOP health bill will "kill people." - So what is the response to this?
[ In Reply To ..]Say that’s irresponsible and unethical of them, irresponsible and unethical is all they ever do. They’re not going to stop.
I say make them cite evidence, when they can’t, call them liars and then say that their immigration policies are what kill people, which is an indisputable fact.
Remember "death panels"m. They are coming with 23 million - Losing their health insurance. nm
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REMEMBER OBAMACARE? More than this - ALREADY LOST THEIR HEALTH CARE
[ In Reply To ..]Because of Obamacare. Nice try on the spin without any facts. Guess you don'the read or research much...seems so, otherwise, you would be aware.
DEATH PANELS ALREADY HERE UNDER OBAMACARE.
Next time a hypocritical leftist says a republican policy will - kill people, something which they have no
[ In Reply To ..]evidence for, you can remind them that liberal immigration policies REALLY DO KILL and HAVE KILLED American citizens.
This is the same kind of rhetoric that Elizabeth Warren - uses. Leftist smugness.
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The CBO also says... - Not necessarily a bad thing sm
[ In Reply To ..]The CBO also says millions will "lose" their insurance if they aren't required by law, and penalty, to buy it. They "lose" it because they choose not to have it. See how that works?
No? Look at this example: Millions will "lose" their car insurance if their state stops requiring them to buy it.
Another way millions "lose" healthcare insurance is when the government stops forcing insurers to sell it.
A third way people lose insurance is when the whole system collapses because it was never workable to begin with.
Guess what? Millions of people lost insurance when Obamacare started. People are going to lose insurance. Choose which method is the most painless and get back to us.
Thanks for your explanation. I would - lose home insurance if not required by lender
[ In Reply To ..]The left is spinning once again regarding healthcare giving gullible people ulcers, headaches and bowel problems. Worrying about the spin left media is giving healthcare bill you will be most in need for health insurance, becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy victim.
That's brilliant and true! Too bad the MSM doesn't - tell the truth statistically.
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I think they - mean that
[ In Reply To ..]the millions who will "lose" their insurance will be those who cannot choose to get it because they can't afford it - not that the "choose" not to buy it. Of course some will "choose" not to get insurance because they think they don't need it - young, healthy types - but none of this will work if not everyone participates. The only way the fat-cat insurance plans can keep premiums down (and still make their obscene bonuses for CEO's) is to have a multitude of types of people - some healthy- some with preexisting chronic conditions, and really sick people - that way they spread the pricing around. If you think that these greedy insurers are not going to do that, well...
That's not what they mean. If you are forced to buy it, - then many will not. Simple.
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If you are forced - to buy it,
[ In Reply To ..]then many will not? Then no one is forced on Obamacare?
If you don't buy insurance, you have to pay a penalty. - That is part of Obamacare.
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Paying a penalty for not buying something - is ridiculous. Too much government involvement
[ In Reply To ..]Does anybody realize how far into your life government has gone under Obamacare?
That's how Obamacare turned out for me - Couldn't afford it -sm
[ In Reply To ..]When Obamacare launched a bronze plan in my state cost me $500/mo with a $10,000 deductible. My family makes too much to qualify for a subsidy. We pay the penalty.
Obamacare taught me you CAN'T keep your insurance, you CAN'T keep your doctor. Deal with it.
The liberals lied to enact the policies they thought were best. It's not working out that way. It would be great if the truth is that we lose these bad Obamacare policies.
Given the fact that Obamacare is dead, yes, really. Whether you think it's worth saving or not is irrelevant. Democrat's historic losses over the last 8 years mean they can't save it. The real question, is the GOP plan better than what we had before Obamacare? No one in the media is reporting on that comparison.
PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF OBAMACARE - MILLIONS AND MILLIONS LOST THEIR INSURANCE
[ In Reply To ..]Many cannot afford Obamacare w/subsidies, me being one of them. More than my mortgage. Premium skyrocketing. People unable to use OBAMACAE because of excessive premium/deductibles/copays.
Where is your outrage the millions and millions suffering under Obamacare?
Just the usual false claims made by those so partisan they refuse to acknowledge truth and facts, then make up their own.
I heard a republican senator from Nevada say it. The - governor too. Nm
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They do that on purpose to incite - young and peppy
[ In Reply To ..]They cannot support these ridiculous comments; so, they throw this stuff out to see what sticks. I find it especially funny that a few will post something inciting or something **THEY** think is profound with their moniker, then immediately switch to answering their own post with no moniker - as if no one can figure out who they are. Sad, misinformed, poorly educated bunch they are.
I heard it called the Trump don't Care bill. nm - oldtimer
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Isnt that what he is all about. Dont worry though the rich - MT2
[ In Reply To ..]will be just fine.
And I am familiar with - OBAMASCARE
[ In Reply To ..]Keep up your spin...amusing to watch.
LOL I like that one. - nm
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