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TrumpCare explained

Posted: May 24, 2017

CBO: Republican health care bill raises premiums for older, poor Americans by as much as 850%

Link: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/24/15687500/cbo-ahca-premiums-age

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A: Trump care is no where near final. - B: Who pretends to know the end result?

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Bogus garbage.

We already know the disaster of Obamacare. - That's why I skip above bogus garbage posts

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If lefties were so smart, why did they let Obamacare become the disaster and implode as it has? Cannot be too bright that bunch.

We no longer have any exchanges left in our state. Obamacare totally useless pile of garbage. Docs will not take it; could not get paid when it was in our state. Costs went through the freaking roof. And yet the lefties still hang on to that dying rot of Obamacare because it came from their "savior". Total waste of flesh Obama was/is...just like Thunder Thighs Killary.

Not buying the "this is not the droid you - are looking for" nonsense

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Sure you can tell what the end result is - or at least what they intend for it to be. Or are you hoping the Dems will save you? Your guys are in the majority, don't forget, and they just LOVE the insurance companies who fund them, they just LOVE cutting "entitlements" like Social Security and Medicare.

Just read the article. Go ahead. Just read many articles, watch the news. Many analyses of this going on now, not a one positive.

Does Fox News analyze Trumpcare, or are they too focused on who killed that guy who got murdered (boring nonsense, just like Hillary's emails)?

They are all rah rah Trump until it comes to informing their viewers what he's doing to them, then anything BUT analysis of the terrible henchmen in place to put forward terrible policies - policies that are not what he promised in many cases.

Trumpcare stinks, it's terrible, I'm guessing most of us will be uninsured going into our golden age. I know for a fact I am not handing over half my income for insurance, I'll take my chances.

It's disgusting and reflects the cruel heart of the Republican party. Paul Ryan, they don't call him the zombie eyed granny starver for nothing, obviously had a heavy hand in this.

But Trump, what happened to his promises? It's not that he doesn't care I'll bet, it's just that he seems to delegate EVERYTHING and maybe he thinks he can then blame them when they break his promises? Keeping his eyes on the prize, tax cuts for billionaires like him, which Paul Ryan has promised him after Ryan has his own nasty fun with this horrible legislation.

Heck, it's worked for Trump so far. Trumpies will see nothing wrong with anything he does.

Wonder how they'll feel when they are stuck paying half their income into health insurance and Medicare is cut?

Trumpies are content to wait and not worry - for the end result.

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It is the nature of leftie losers to borrow trouble but that is to tear down Trump in every which way they can think of.

You all can moan and groan and predict gloom and doom but there is nothing you can do. Hate is not contagious even if you think by posting hateful things you can get people to join your crowd but most thoughtful people will wait to see what happens and if it is as disastrous as Obama's Trump and his Republican buddies will be voted out. Simple as that.

The CBO findings are based on the bill that passed the House. nm. - VTMT

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Oh great, I am looking at paying - more than half of my income

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To be covered. Nothing like getting older and sicker with no coverage.

Also, does that lapse provision make sense to anyone? They are SUPPOSEDLY trying to ensure people remain covered if they lose coverage somehow, but if you try to get on insurance again it'll cost you another 30% on your premiums. How does that make sense?

Scenario. Crappy MT job paying $25,000/yr. I certainly cannot afford the premiums anyway, but say somehow the company I worked for subsidized or got a good deal (yuk yuk yuk I know that would never happen, but still), then I am out on the street and have to try to keep that exorbitant coverage. That just would not happen, but then I get penalized if I get a new job?

Anybody else think their desire in this horrible plan is to get everyone OFF health insurance? It's a horrible plan.

Yeah - this is EXACTLY what Obamacare did to millions - and millions of people

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Outrageous premiums, even more outrageous deductibles, no coverage, no doctors accepting this garbage (not insurance at all), forced to pay for coverage you don't need/want, insurance companies pulling out left and right, MILLIONS KICKED OFF OF INSURANCE THEY LIKED AND FORCED ONTO THE OBAMACARE GARBAGE AT SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER PRICES.

I beg to differ. In my scenario above, I would - be eligible for subsidies

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And Obamacare does NOT penalize people for losing their coverage in any way, shape, or form. That's because the goal is to GET covered, not to force them to go without health insurance, which seems to be this one. They have even said that's how they will save money, by getting people off insurance (presumably because they cannot afford it!).

Those on crappy salaries get subsidies under Obamacare. Doesn't the federal come into play if your state is one of those jerk states who didn't expand Medicaid?

I know I checked into it, and I would have been better off if I could have gotten the ACA, but I had to take the coverage from my work.

It's unreal how ignorant you lefties are. - You just don't get it.

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And I guess you never will.

The program cannot and WILL NOT sustain itself when there are MILLIONS more people getting big fat subsidies and free Medicaid than people paying into the program.

Why is that so freakin' hard for you to understand...??????

ObamaFLOP is a freakin' failure!!!

I give up. You can't reason with the unreasonable.

SMH

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The lefties are in way over their head. - No way do they comprehend healthcare costs

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Very sad because they make judgements based on some report that I doubt very much is an accurate projection and not being able to weigh the ins and outs of either plan.

Also sad because the lefties are going to worry themselves sick, but that's another story. For some reason, I kind of enjoy leftie outrage, anger and worry posted here daily.

So you are fine with older people paying half - their income for insurance?

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Cuz that's what this is. Obamacare is NOT a failure. Not if you had a preexisting condition and not if you live in a state that expanded Medicaid.

Why didn't you get as angry with your governor who wouldn't expand Medicaid as you are with me? That is why it didn't work in some states, the greedy nasty governors in the red states.

Are you really going to sacrifice your right to affordable health care on the altar of supply side trickle down economics? Those who do are to be pitied. Enjoy having no insurance or paying through the nose.

This is NOT the fix, not at all. This is just going back to before Obamacare so they can get their dang tax breaks for billionaires.

I don't believe anything until it is finalized - Projections of proposed plan interpreted by ?

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mean absolutely NOTHING.

By the CBO (Congressional Budget Office). nm - VTMT

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I don't think you understand - that the ACA would

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not be a failure if everyone had played by the rules by buying insurance and the republican governors would have taken the expanded Medicaid.

Also, a lot of the failure is republican rhetoric that they created because they wanted people like you to believe it. If the final plan they have come up with is anything like the one the House came up with, you will wish the ACA were back. That plan added coverage for many people and this one will take that away.

I also give up. We'll just wait for people who support getting rid of it to be crying in their milk when they lose insurance.

I prefer MILLIONS of people getting subsidies over the top 1% getting tax breaks. But we can't let those pesky poor people have anything to help them, only the rich deserve that, right!

Bull! Differ all you want - & while you're at it looosen your tin foi

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hat. I personally do not give a rat's behind what you THINK Obamacare is. It is a well-known fact it is imploding. Not one single thing in the post you responded to said people were "penalized".

But let's review shall we:

Post clearly stated Obamacare premiums when through the roof; they have.

Post clearly stated Obamacare deductibles went through the roof;they have.

Post clearly stated Obamacare not accepted by many docs in HER area; fact.

Post clearly stated Obamacare forces people to pay for coverage they do want or need; FACT. No 68-yo female needs reproductive (OB in case you cannot understand reproductive) care. No man NEEDS GYNE coverage. Fact.

Post clearly stated many insurances dropped Obamacare totally, and now there are states w/o it. FACT.

Maybe you should apply your "subsidies" to reading lesson. Clearly, you were so intent on bashing someone, you never read what was CLEARLY STATED AND IS FACT.

But the sky is falling and Trump healthcare - is confusing me. Chicken Little

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HELP! I want my Obamacare because Trump is going to be mean to me. Whoops I just looked out the window and read these posts and the sky is falling. Should I move to Canada or Mexico?

There are so many falsehoods in your post. - nm

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I guess you are not aware that everyone in the USA.... - sm

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who has health insurance is insured under the ACA (Obamacare). The ACA is a law that all private insurance companies must abide by.

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