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There is just something wrong with this
Posted: Aug 12, 2010
Not liking someone is one thing, absolute hatred and spitefulness is another. Myself I just wish Sarah Palin would just go away. I don't care for her and I don't care what she has to say. If she would just go home and not out in the public I would be perfectly content. Wish her and her family well. I just don't care what she has to say...but...to wish someone dead is a whole other mental sickness I just don't understand. Guess I'm glad I don't consider myself in the same party as him.
P.S. - It doesn't matter what site I found this on. Found many different sites. He still wrote the words. It's the content of what this democrat said that is truly repulsive. I know a lot of people on this board can't stand her either, so wonder how many are as outraged about what he said.
http://thebustednut.net/2010/08/11/nh-democrat-keith-david-halloran-wishes-sarah-palin-was-dead/
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Out of all the many different sites sites - you say
[ In Reply To ..]you found this, you chose to post the one that transforms Keith Halloran into all liberals and their party, then proceeds to rip them to shreds BEFORE even reporting on the actual event. You then proceed to express your glee over not being a party to that party, which in your PS you have transformed from Halloran, the liberals and their party to ALL democrats! Missing from your post is the denouncement by democratic leadership of the remarks and Halloran's apology (see link 1).
Speaking of Facebook, check out link 2, but in doing so, do not skip over the other Facebook site where 1 million folks posted outrage against the Obama death threat club. Remember after HCR when death threats and vandalism against more than a dozen dems happened and, with the exception of a miniscule percentage, pubs could not even bring themselves to admit that it happened, much less apologize for it or show outrage? Links 3, 4 and 5 address the question of degree and frequency. I also recall how Fox News reports devled into justifications for the death threats after their one-sentence token denouncement (see link 6).
Yes, there is something wrong with this and let me explicitly come down on the side of the outrage over this kind of behavior, no matter what side of the aisle it is coming from. I also find the hypocrisy behind your post equally as offensive.
Candidate apologizes for Sarah Palin death wish post on Facebook
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/20100812candidate_apologizes_for_sarah_palin_death_wish_post_on_facebook/
Facebook Group Calling For Obama�âïÿýïÿýs Death Reaches 1 Million Users
http://www.allfacebook.com/facebook-group-calling-for-obamas-death-reaches-1-million-users-2010-04
Tempe, AZ Pastor: Obama Should \\\\\\\"Melt Like A Snail\\\\\\\" And Die. Death Threats Against the President Rise by over 400%.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjq7WY0znRs
Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5967942/Barack-Obama-faces-30-death-threats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html
CNN: Death Threats Against Obama Increase By 400 Percent
http://pubrecord.org/multimedia/4273/during-sermon-arizona-pastor-tells/
Fox News: Threats against Democrats are wrong, but ...
http://mediamatters.org/research/201003250019
This is NOT about Obama - see message
[ In Reply To ..]Did I mention Obama in my post. NO - I DID NOT. Stop turning everything bad that happens into a sad story referencing Obama.
I didn't know that I was supposed to read through 50 or more websites just to make sure it was one you approve of. I was reading this on 3 or 4 websites. I could have posted any one of them, but I just picked one cos I was tired of trying to find one that wouldn't be picked apart (or meet your approval).
But quit making everything out about Obama. So you think that because someone received death threats its just fine and dandy to make them against another politician because you despise her. Jeez-O-Pete!
So I take it from your post you think that behavior and those comments are just fine. I find it despicable. Just as I would if anyone said the same about Kerry, Clinton, or anyone. I may not like them, but I find remarks about wishing people dead despicable. It amazes me that people think it's okay.
Once again let me repeat. You should really read my OP again. Nowhere did I mention Obama's name because this is not about Obama. This is about SP and the guy who wished her dead and publicly said so. Who cares if he apologized. The damage is already done.
And if its people like that democrat and messages like yours thinking it's okay to come out and say you wish someone dead...then I will definitely say with pride (and very gleefully thank you) that I am sooooo glad I don't belong to your party.
Thanks for your response though. Just what I expected.
My, my. Struck a nerve? - You are not the boss of me
[ In Reply To ..]Laughable (and hypocritical, to boot) that you should admonish me or anyone else not to make this about Obama, especially since that is all about 95 percent of all replies from the cons, tpots and wingnuts are able to muster....making EVERYTHING that's wrong with the world about Obama. I will make this about whatever I choose to make it about, but I agree with you. It is not about Obama. If you could refrain from being so partisan for just a few seconds, you would realize that this is about death wishes/death threats made against ANY politician, no matter what party is running the offense of defense.
No need to explain your reasoning (or lack thereof) behind how you picked your source. You already showed a lack of judgment when declaring that sources don't matter, when clearly they do.
You really ought to count to ten before going off THIS half-cocked and it is REALLY helpful to read the entire post before relying. Evidently, you were too blinded in your haste to diss me to notice that I most EXPLICITLY denounced the behavior regardless of which party is in play at the moment. You, on the other hand appear to only be concerned with defending poor Sarah and do not share the same outrage over repeated threats on the live of the POTUS. Thus, you have earned the hypocrite of the day award. BTW, exactly WHAT damage did Mama Grizzly suffer?
It is apparent that most of my post passed WAY above your head, since you have conspicuously failed to respond to the observation that you are not able to distinguish between the behavior of a single individual, which you instead attribute to an entire party. You have a lot of growing up to do and I have better things to do with my time than to wait and see how long it takes you. Ciao, baby.
PS: You did an excellent job in helping me make my point. Thanks for that.
You know what? Your post shows that elitist snobbery - KT
[ In Reply To ..]that most of the country is starting to see right through these days. Words, names, speeches, junk =fake. The way you talk down to the other side will not help your cause, and from the looks of it, Obama blaming Bush for everything is backfiring more every day as well. Just keep it up, elitists! :-)
"Ciao, baby" !
Maybe the ones who worship at the alter of talk radios - Southeast Missouri State Universitys
[ In Reply To ..]most famous flunk-out student (hint: Lush, err, I mean Rush), are starting to see through all that buzz, buzz, buzz elitist snobbery, especially ones who can identify with the sour grapes sentiments of election losers and college graduate wannabes who couldn't quite cut it....but for the rest of us, intellect, academic achievement and excellence, the voice of reason and the power of white matter is not only nothing to apologize for, but it is also a trait we seek out in our leadership.
Limbaugh flunked out of college? - Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.....
[ In Reply To ..]I didn't know that. Thanks for posting.
Whether he did or not, the sad thing is he would make - a better president than O. HAHAHA.nm
[ In Reply To ..]nm
Oh, please, please, PRETTY please, nominate him. - That would be
[ In Reply To ..]a dream-come-true for the dems, even better than Mama Grizzly.
Rush has a much more logical mind than Obama. - Why dont you tell me something?
[ In Reply To ..]Name something that has improved with Obama as president. ? what, Gitmo being closed as boasted, the unemployment rate staying under 8pct?..uuhh nope. If Obama were up for reelection now, you think he would win? Pay attention. The polls do matter, and unless things turn around, and in a major way, Obama is a one-termer.
Oh, please, please, PRETTY please, nominate him. - I am begging you,
[ In Reply To ..]Nominate Rush for Prez. Let SP be a second-termer VP nominee, while you are at it. Flip the ticket. Put her on top and left Rush ride shotgut. Go ahead. Make my day. Did I say PRETTY please?
He wont run anyway. But at this point, many could - win over Obama, especially someone like
[ In Reply To ..]a Romney, you know, someone who has actually run a business and has a clue? Obama is an embarrassment.
Ummm, first he has to clear the nomination hurdle. - 22 percent in 2008 not that impressive. sm
[ In Reply To ..]As governor, he managed to run his initial 66 percent approval rating down to (gasp) 34 percent by the time he left office. One major policy liability he has on that bid is his support for universal health care and his blief that only government can expand the number of insured Americans! He is a moderate (a four-letter word within current GOP ranks) who believes that the tpots and angry populism against business will fall by the wayside, along with Mama Grizzly's popularity. Another weakness he has is whether or not he can overcome his flip-flopping past. Oh, did I mention evangelical bigotry against Mormonism? Good luck with that.
Honey, not nearly the embarrassment Lush is. - Get a clue yourself. nm
[ In Reply To ..]nm
Baloney! Rush would have more of a brain on drugs - than Obama does sober!.nm
[ In Reply To ..]nm
She announces proudly. Do you have any other - sm
[ In Reply To ..]fact challenged, hate-mongering, drug addicted, hypocritical horse behinds you care to nominate for 2010? I am sure the cons have an endless supply.
As far as "hate-mongering", you obviously own that one.nm - GoodDay
[ In Reply To ..]nm
Puh-leeze. After flunking out of college, Rush - built a career around hate.
[ In Reply To ..]Every concsious, breathing American citizen knows this. Nice try, though. A direct answer instead of a meaningless slur would be nice next time.
How pathetic and laughable. So, just because someone - has a degree, that must mean he
[ In Reply To ..]or she is a great leader? I think NOT! Just look at our current president and his leadership. The man is in so over his head, he is drowning. Obama is a perfect example of academic achievement not equating to common sense, since he seems to have none.
We hold these truths to be self evident. - nm
[ In Reply To ..]nm
Agreed. Flunking out after 3 semesters is the #1 - leadership trait I look for.
[ In Reply To ..]Does it get any more ridiculous than this?
Wow - actually looks like I struck a nerve with you. - Never said I was the boss of you
[ In Reply To ..]What you wrote has nothing to do with âstriking a nerveâ. Maybe you should read my posts again.
I see you are using hypocritical as the new buzz word here like a good little minion of the progressive party does. They must be so proud. You really should look up the meaning of the word though because what I wrote was not hypocritical, and using it incorrectly shows lack of knowledge of the basic meaning of the word.
When I posted my message I did not bring all these other past posts on this board into the picture. I was talking about a single incident that just occurred within the last 24 or 48 hours. Staying on topic would have been nice, but itâs obvious you did not read my original post, and just came back within moments bringing in all these off topics. I didnât ârip anyone into shreds before reporting on the actual eventâ. I read about the event after it happened and I posted here about it. As a poster I can post anything I want to, especially if itâs the truth. And if you think posting about a direct comment on something someone who is politician said is called âripping him to shredsâ I would just suggest a thicker skin. The same thickness we conservatives have to have when liberals post things conservatives say.
I commented about the words of a democrat who said he wishes Sarah Palin was on the plane that crashed. That was the topic. Nothing else, just what the guy said. I could find it in a dozen or more websites and I picked one. I donât need to explain to you the reasoning of which web site I picked, so no analysis is needed. The fact of the matter is not who posted the article, but rather the contents of what the NH Democrat wrote which were "Just wish Sarah and Levy were on board". Nothing more. It wasnât a distortion of his words, it was the actual words he used. I donât care whether it was on CNN, MSBNC, FOX, or any local liberal or conservative web site. The words he wrote do not change. The source was reliable because it stated his direct quote, not an interpretation of his quote. So yes, my source was reliable. Posting a direct quote someone says does not diminish your credibility.
When something so horrible as wishing death upon a person because they have different political viewpoints (no matter which party they belong to) is written for the world to see it just really makes you realize there really are scum roaming this planet, and anyone who makes excuses for them can join the bucket.
But you decided to turn this into an Obama thing. Funny thing is when I read his comments on several different sites he did not say anything about Obama and nothing in my statements referred to Obama. In fact, he was the furthest thing from my mind. Not everything that happens in this world is related to him. Hence, please (asking, not telling) do not even turn this into something about Obama. If you want to do that we can start a whole new thread and call that âWhy itâs okay to wish death upon SP because in the past people said horrible things about Obamaâ. They are two different subject matters.
Itâs obvious what side you favor, when you donât have the decency to respect others opinions. There are more than two political parties in this country and calling the side you donât favor derogatory terms is just so⦠yawwwwwnnnn.
I also donât need anyone to tell me to count til 10. Maybe you should have counted til 10 before replying with the âso whatâ attitude becauseâ¦horrible things were said about Obama in the distant past, and tpots, and health care, and something about a grizzly??? Anyone who posts condescending remarks is the last person to be telling anyone to âcount til 10â, especially since you canât even stay on track of the current topic but decide youâre now going to make this about Obama when his name never entered the picture. Maybe you should have kept your comments to the current topic instead of trying to defend it. Now thatâs what I call adolescent.
So here, let me clarify:
1. My post was about comments someone made in about SP. Nothing else. Nobody else.
2. I do not need to search through website after website to post one that meets your approval.
3. The words of what the NH democrat said will not change no matter how liberal you want to go.
4. Just because you despise a person does not give anyone the right to think its okay to say he/she should die. That kind of person lacks character, credibility, and proves they have no decency or moral character.
In fact, it looks like my post really struck a nerve with you. Sure donât like it when something a slimy democrat says (that is obviously way out of line) is posted here. Itâs called freedom of speech. If the liberals can post all the bad things that conservatives come out with then you should get used to the fact that if a liberal says something out of line it will be reported too.
I also stated âGuess I'm glad I don't consider myself in the same party as himâ. You somehow turned it into a slam against all democrats (didnât you see the word âhimâ). Goes to prove once more you didnât read my original post. Maybe you should be telling that to him that heâs the one giving your party a bad name. So I will repeat (I didnât say it with glee, but after your response I will now with pride and glee) repeat I am sooo glad I donât belong to âhisâ party. Maybe next time you shouldnât be rushing to jump to conclusions, and bring in topics that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Maybe you should use that same âcount to 10â rule you referred to.
I too have better things to do than to wait around for a reply. Iâm sure there will be more condescending remarks to follow my post. Just would have been nice if you could have stuck with the topic I posted about. And actually you had no point to make, so nothing to thank.
Have a nice day. Goodbye.
What's your point? - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Wow, what a windbag. In all this you have yet to address any of the points raised in the other post. The more you defend yourself, the less convincing you get. Why bother?
Tell that to the other poster - who attacked her and called
[ In Reply To ..]her a hypocrite a starting bringing up issues that did not have anything to do with her post.
And you are no better than the one you are defending calling this poster a windbag...NOT nice!
I would imaging if someone calls you a name they are not deserving of, yes they would reply back and rightly so.
So what's your point? None I see except to insult.
Hello. I can read - sm
[ In Reply To ..]and have no use for spin. The other poster made valid points by telling the whole story and presenting the other side that has everything to do with the issue and no one has had the guts to step up and address them. The double standard was exposed and nailed when the word hypocrite was introduced into the conversation. She told the truth as she should have, regardless of how insulting you think it is. You did not like what she said because it hits too close to home.
Not quite. You sure put your spin on this. - anon
[ In Reply To ..]The OP was about the statement that Halloran made. Which was:
"Just wish Sarah and Levy [sic] were on board,"
That's what the post was about. That was the story. At the time of the post no apology had been made. The OP posted about the statement the Democrat made about wanting Sarah and Levy on the plane that crashed and that is all the post was about.
There was no spin because she posted a link that had the exact quote of what was said. She stated her distaste for people who make such statements about wanting other people dead. She also stated she wondered how many people would be outraged by his statement.
And then comes along a poster and starts dragging a bunch of non-issues into the picture that had nothing to do with the statement that Halloran made. It was brought in to use as an excuse to approve of what he said. The OP was called a hypocrite before she even answered back and when there were no reasons to call her that. The poster laid into her for no reason with the attitude of "well its okay because people have said bad things about Obama in the past". I'm sitting here going.... one has nothing to do with the other.
In an effort to try to make excuses for the severity of what Halloran said in the end all that came across was - it's okay for people to make public statements about wanting Sarah Palin dead because of things people said about Obama in the past.
Where you get the "spin" thing from who knows. The only one doing any spinning is yourself. The other poster did not make any valid points. Just excused the inexcusable. Another poster did post information about his apology and that is good.
Goes to show that anytime a democrat says something that is inexcusable the liberals will come to his aid, when they have no facts they throw out those all too familiar scare tactics by calling someone hypocrite, racist, or whatever. Luckily everyone is on to them and it has no meaning anymore. If the words were used properly in the right context that would be one thing. Here they were not.
Unfortunately you do not know what a double standard is either. Double standards is on your side when you excuse what he said, yet hold conservatives responsible for what they say. That is the double standard rules the liberals live by (not all but on this board a good majority).
So, comes the question...how can something "hit close to home", when it has nothing to do with what the original topic is.
Excusing what Halloran said? Now that's double standards and inexcusable.
So I do see a couple who proved the OP right. They were not outraged by the comment, but instead made excuses for him pretty much stating that what he said was okay
OMG. She never excused what Halloran said. - In fact, she did the opposite.
[ In Reply To ..]Where do you get this stuff? This is not rocket science. A second side to the story was presented bringing up valid and relative points. Subsequent responses have expressed deep hypocrisy on the subject at hand. No one has stepped up to address this, including you. The double standard is yours and all the others who refuse to address her. She is the only one who categorically stated adversion to death wishes and death threats by both parties toward both parties. This is not spin. It is fact. Deal with it or not, but this broken record and blind eye is a real drag.
Bringing up excuses - anon
[ In Reply To ..]that have nothing to do with the OP is just that excuses.
When someone says something this horrific about another human being whether or not you like them, and you bring all these "well this was said about Obama, and that was said about Obama", and calling people tpts, and grizzly bears, this and that and all these other non-issue that have nothing to do with the original post sure looks like someone is making an excuse for what the guy said.
The OP was not comparing this story to anyone else. It was a story that stands on it's own and should have been dealt with it on its own. Not "well this was said about Obama ages ago" and "he gets death threats all the time". That there says loud and clear that the poster thinks it's okay for this guy to say this.
The only double standards is the one you live by. That is what is fact.
This thread is restricted only to those who condemn one side - and defend the other for same behaviors
[ In Reply To ..]are allowed to post under this thread. All others will be banished. NOT.
She stated straight out in the first post she condemned the Halloran death wish right alongside the death threats made by republicans against the president and other democratic Congress members, in other words, no matter which party they are coming from. In doing so, any notion that she holds a double standard was dispelled. All the others here have not shown the capacity to do the same. You are trying to manufacture a fictitious decoy issue to drive home instead of addressing the exceedingly obvious double standard you so staunchly uphold and condemn simultaneously. Observing this hypocrisy and posting only a few of the numerous available examples is a legitimate part of this conversation any of you guys have yet to confront. By continuing this, you are only reinforcing her original point.
You still don't get it - anon
[ In Reply To ..]This was not about all the other issues in the world. This was about the issue of what that one person said. Bringing in all these topics shows that you are trying to excuse his behavior with the "so what" attitude because other people have said things in the past. You can say all you want that you condemn what he said, but the actions of the excuses you write show the opposite. You'll condemn the conservatives up and down "off with their heads for calling out when a lie is being told", but you don't put the same set of ethics to the liberals.
I was wondering if some of the liberals here would just try and sweep this story under the rug and sure enough I was right.
You hold everyone responsible except the liberals giving the excuses that it's been said in the past. Well I wasn't talking about the past. I was talking about this specific incident.
The inhumanity this one person has shown towards another human being all because they are of a different political party is truly disgusting and makes my skin crawl. And before you call me a Palin lover I'll tell you I can't stand her and just wish she and her family would go away. And it's the same disgust and nauseating sick feeling I had when I heard Hillary talk about staying in the race because of a possible "Kennedy incident" against Obama. It's sick and disgusting and makes my skin crawl.
I've tried repeating I'm not talking about other past incidents with hundreds of other people, I was talking about this one current event at hand. But I guess that was too hard to understand.
I'm done with all the hypocritical double standards the liberals live by.
Thank you all for proving my point.
I SOOOOO can't wait til November.
You are right. Its only about death wishes, death threats - and death jokes,
[ In Reply To ..]an equal opportunity phenomenon for both parties to either instigate or be victimized by, the degrees of hypocrisy exhibited by both and how they compare with one another. It is apparent you are unwilling to discuss the entire scope of the subject, so no need to repost. We already got that message loud and clear.
It's obvious you are trying to detract from the issue at hand - and excuse him for saying what he did
[ In Reply To ..]Yeah, it's okay he said that cos bad things have been said in the past directed at a democrat.
Yeah we got that message loud and clear too.
Not so. I agree with the original poster, who - sm
[ In Reply To ..]clearly (explicitly was the word she used) stated that this behavior is unacceptable no matter who says it or which party they belong to. Now hear this. That includes Halloran...you know, the guy who apologized? It also includes Timothy Horrigan, the other NH state representative who resigned his position to show his regret and has left politics all together. Now, imagine if you will, a republican caught up in similar circumstances having the cajones to step up, apologize and/or resign. Can you think of any examples to prove me wrong? I would be more than happy to apologize and admit I am wrong if you can.
What is obvious is that no one else who has posted under this thread, yourself included, can bring themselves to admit their own party's propensity toward this same abominable behavior, despite the numerous examples that were posted at the beginning of this thread and the new post about political dark humor.
Reply - anon
[ In Reply To ..]If you are talking about a republican politician wishing a death threat on a democrat there are none who have, hence nothing to apologize for.
If your talking about other republicans who have apologized for other issues there is - Joe Wilson, Mark Sanford, John Ensign , Mark Souder, Joe Barton, Phil Gingrey, to name a few.
Democrats still won't apologize for their mis-doings.
Whoa, Bessie Halloran did not threaten anybody. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]His comments fall into the category of death wish or death joke. Therefore, in line with the original post, I am talking about all of the above, including death threats. I have not confined my dialog exclusively to politicians, because these 3 types of political dialog ALL merit some sort o acknowledgment and apology whether they emanate from either GOP or dem sources. Example: Halloran did apologize and own responsibility for his comments. Timothy Horrigan did the same, resigned and left politics for good. How have the GOP addressed this same problem within their own party besides deny, blame the media, point fingers, concoct conspiracy theories, etc? THAT is what I want to know.
Here I have broken down my research into this question by categories, starting with the one you requested and working my way through the other source types. They are all despicible, but I think the Boor of the day awards on this belong to the Ann Coulter exchange with Elizabeth Edwards and state Senator Vic Sprouse remarks about Senator Robert Byrd. See what you think.
With regard to your apologists, I was asking about similar circumstances, meaning GOP (some of whom are listed below) who have made these specific types of comments. Of course, you did not supply any of those since you kinda sorta think GOP pols never made death wishes, threats or jokes about dems. As you can see, you are mistaken about that.
In the GOP politicians joking about death-death wish category, we have:
Huckabee laughs at his own joke about Obama being targeted by a gun-toting assassin at NRA meeting. To their credit, not too many in the audience followed suit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8zBYx3RigI
Senator Kyl�s version of 3 men in a sinking boat joke at the National Republican Senatorial Committee retreat. His targets? The President and Speaker-of-the-House.
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0503/kyl-reportedly-jokes-obama-pelosi-drowning/
Rep. Paul Reichert�s fall from a plane crash death joke about Hillary Clinton at the Washington State Republican Convention in 2008, as well as on numerous other occasions. Third blue shaded box down from top:
http://horsesass.org/?p=4945
Rep Todd Akin R-Missouri jokes about how democrat colleagues almost got lynched in town hall meetings. GOP audience applauds and cracks up with side-splitting HA-HAs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvzVAEGc84c
Rex Rammell republican gubernatorial candidate in Idaho jokes about taking out a license to hunt Obama down.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/08/28/2009-08-28_idaho_republican_governor_hopeful_rex_rammell_makes_obama_tags_joke_about_huntin.html
Former Minority State Senate Leader Vic Sprouse R-West Virginia, champion of family values, adulterer, boozing, dead-beat dad of a handicapped child made a particularly horrific death joke (in view of the timing) about the Late Senator Robert Byrd a mere 48 hours before he died, with full knowledge that Senator Byrd had been terminally ill for months and was likely on the brink. I think it deserves a direct citation: When speaking of the state funding process, he said, ��and, is this the first legislature in history (well, except those concerned about the Praetorians rounding them up and hanging them) to willingly give away the power of the purse to the Executive Branch? Byrd would be rolling over in his grave... err... his Senate floor seat.� Snort, snort, oink, oink. One can only imagine the pain he callously inflicted on Senator Byrd�s grieving family.
Republican funding emails penned by GOP fundraiser Al Austin in Tampa, Florida included airplane crash death jokes about POTUS and FLOTUS. He later claimed he did not know he sent the emails he signed himself.
http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/news/story/top-tampa-gop-figure-circulates-joke-about-killing-obama/
In the praying for death wish category we have:
The un-funny Dear Lord Obama Death Prayer website is here:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/DEAR-LORD-THIS-YEAR-YOU-TOOK-MY-FAVORITE-ACTOR-PATRICK-SWAYZIE-YOU-TOOK-MY-FAVORITE-ACTRESS-FARAH-FAWCETT-YOU-TOOK-MY-FAVORITE-SINGER-MICHAEL-JACKSON-I-JUST-WANTED-TO-LET-YOU-KNOW-MY-FAVORITE-PRESIDENT-IS-BARACK-OBAMA-AMEN/111712585523370
Tempe, AZ Pastor: Obama Should Melt Like A Snail And Die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjq7WY0znRs
In the right wing media excusing the death threats and or making sick death jokes category, we have:
Fox News: Threats against Democrats are wrong, but ...
http://mediamatters.org/research/201003250019
Fox News gets into the death joke comedy business during interview with Amanda Carpenter in this short clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0
Rush Limbaugh Predicts Ted Kennedy�s death to score political points in the health care reform debate:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200903060016
Hannity Defends Limbaughs Ted Kennedy Memorial Health Care Prediction
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200903060038
Rush Limbaugh wonders about who is paying for Ted Kennedy�s funeral, laced with unmitigated hypocrisy, all things considered.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908280017
On August 26, 2009, Limbaugh went on to brag about his powers of death predictions.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908260012
Glenn Beck jokes about poisoning Nancy Pelosi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j66UQDzW3yU
Ann Coulter�s ghoulish humor has a wide range indeed. Here she is joking around about Senator Tim Johnson�s D-SD serious illness (dense stroke symptoms) and implicit possible pending death from radiation poisoning she ties to his fictitious KGB connections. Guess she skipped her meds that day.
http://colorado.mediamatters.org/items/200612160001
Coulter: We need somebody to put rat poisoning in (Supreme Count) Justice (John Paul) Stevens\' creme brulee,\"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183006,00.html
Coulter�s nasty little dust-up with Elizabeth Edwards after making fun of the moment of Charlie Dean�s death (Howard Dean�s brother, captured and killed by Laoist guerillas in 1974). Coulter suggested that to Mrs. Edwards that her husband had a bumper sticker on the back of his car that said, �Ask me about my dead son,� (who died in a car accident), then unsuccessfully tried to defend the indefensible.
http://www.yooohaaa.com/rants/anncoulterquotes.htm
In the death threat statistics category we have:
Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5967942/Barack-Obama-faces-30-death-threats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html
CNN: Death Threats Against Obama Increase By 400 Percent
http://pubrecord.org/multimedia/4273/during-sermon-arizona-pastor-tells/
The statistics are included to underscore why apologies and aknowledgments from leadership MATTER.
Don't forget Sharron Angle's monologue about the 2nd amendment - and then saying Harry Reid needs to be "taken out.
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Wow, thanks. I'll add that to my list. - nm
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mountain - mole hill.nm
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Yep. - nm
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He should do what NH Tim Horrigan Did, but he won't - Backwards Typist
[ In Reply To ..]and I think it's a very shallow apology. You can tell he doesn't really mean it.
Boston.com
CONCORD, N.H.âA Democrat who quipped on Facebook about Sarah Palin's death quit the state Legislature on Thursday and apologized for his remarks.
Rep. Timothy Horrigan of Durham delivered a letter of resignation to the House speaker and also said he was discontinuing his re-election campaign.
Horrigan had posted Wednesday that a "dead Palin wd be even more dangerous than a live one" and said she "is all about her myth & if she was dead she cdn't commit any more gaffes."
On Thursday, he apologized.
"She is, as far as I know, not a bad person at all -- and certainly she deserves to live a long and happy life," Horrigan wrote on Facebook.
Horrigan responded appropriately by resigning, Democratic Party Chairman Raymond Buckley said.
"His comments were inappropriate and do not reflect the views of the New Hampshire Democratic Party. As an elected official, this type of rhetoric is out of line," said Buckley.
Ryan Williams, spokesman for the state Republican Party, condemned the remarks as "sick, twisted and disgusting."
Another New Hampshire Democrat was also criticized this week for a Facebook comment about Palin, the former governor of Alaska who was the Republican nominee for vice president in 2008.
Keith Halloran, a House candidate from Rindge, apologized Thursday for posting a death wish for Palin on Facebook.
Halloran had commented Tuesday in response to a Republican lawmaker's post about the plane crash that killed former Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens. When the lawmaker expressed disappointment that some news accounts of Stevens' death focused on negative aspects of his career, Halloran responded: "Just wish Sarah and Levy were on board," an apparent reference to Palin and her daughter's ex-boyfriend, Levi Johnston.
After the leaders of both political parties denounced his comment, Halloran posted an apology on his Facebook page, saying he wishes the best for Palin, Johnston and their families.
What makes me sick about all these people, - Zville MT
[ In Reply To ..]anyone who makes a comment like that about anyone else, is that they think they can apologize and it should all be forgotten! They don't have to mean it, just say 'I'm sorry' and it's all good. Why can't people think before they speak instead!
IMHO, it shows a serious lack of character to say something like that about another person, especially when they don't even know that person outside of their political viewpoints. Do things really have to become this personal and ugly?
Absolutely. Mr. Halloran - sm
[ In Reply To ..]and his party should take his queues from the GOP and deny it ever happened, blame the media and the opposition party for spreading smears, play victim, spin conspiracy theories, praise the Fox media blitz, march lock step behind silent leadership who could not admit a mistake if their lives depended on it, and all together in unison declare their staunch refusal to apologize because to do so would be an acknowledgement that it ever happened in the first place. After all, this is the way they handle the situation when they are the ones making the death threats.
True leadership at its finest. Yep. We should all aspire to such lofty moral standing.
oh I see...so now it's Fox's fault that he said what he did - nm
[ In Reply To ..]Are you for real. The guy made a disastrous blunder, and now it's all Fox and the GOPs fault.
In your rant about not admitting they made a mistake if their lives depended on it describes the democrat party to a T. They refuse to apologize and they'll never ever ever admit if their lives depended on it that they were wrong or made a mistake.
Death threats??? Funny how you forget too soon about the people in your own party making threats and accusations and calling people the "N" word, pushing, biting off peoples fingers, shoving people to the ground, throwing things, and spitting at them. Oh yes...what moral standings they have.
At this time we have no leadership whatsoever in either party. But with posts like yours the country will never be united and will never heal. You just want to blame the other party for everything and never take responsibility in your own party.
No leadership with the democrats and shameful.
No one said that. Your post is drivel and - sm
[ In Reply To ..]only shows how challenging you find the English language. All you cons want to do is pick fights and act like a bunch of schoolyard bullies. Now if you will excuse me, I have some civilized folks I would much rather hang around. Toodle-loo.
I would love to have a real diaglog about this, but - sm
[ In Reply To ..]it is not possible to do so when 80 percent of the subject is being ignored.
I was trying to. - Zville MT
[ In Reply To ..]I think the thing that is being ignored is that this is not a republican thing or a democrat thing, it's a humanity thing. How can we have gotten to the place where it's normal to publically wish someone dead just because they don't agree with us politically? Death threats against the president and others? And then just apologize and it's supposed to be okay? How can this be okay from anyone?
Excellent point - anon
[ In Reply To ..]I really don't understand that mentality. People are always going to disagree political wise, but what has happened to civilization to come out and publicly state you wish someone was dead just because they don't belong to your political party.
What he said was inexcusable and just down right nasty. Unfortunately for him when you publicly come out and state this it's just not something that you can say "oh I didn't mean it, lets just forget I ever said it".
Where has the humanity gone.
I disagree. At the very least an apology serves - sm
[ In Reply To ..]as an acknowledgment that the incident happened and as a claim to ownership of the responsibility. Whether or not you choose to believe or accept it is a different issue entirely. I also believe that how the party leadership reacts to such incidents matters.
I am sorry to say that even this very low measure of retraction is nowhere to be found when the president receives his 30 daily death threats or when democratic members of Congress receive death threats and are victimized by vandalism just for doing their jobs. Republican leadership has been all but invisible in issuing strong and repeated condemnations, considering the death threats against the POTUS are ongoing. When health care reform opponents went ballistic, the silence from them was deafening.
For those of us who claim the humanity of the situation is a vital concern, this is a memory that is not likely to fade anytime soon. For those of us who lived through the turmoil and assassinations of the 60s and 70s, it reopens old wounds that are immensely painful to bear, and makes them seem like they happened last week instead of 4 or 5 decades ago.
It would've been nice to hear such indignation when Obama - received the same kind of comments.nm
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You got that right. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Too bad there is not a single opponent of Obama with enough HUMANITY to step up and admit this blaring contradiction.
Just nevermind - Zville MT
[ In Reply To ..]You just want to argue about who said what and when and I have no interest in that.
What you have no interest in is admitting the truth - to this 2 sided story.
[ In Reply To ..]Big surprise.
Hey Zville - I wouldn't even dignify their responses - anon
[ In Reply To ..]It is obvious they have no interest in staying focused on the subject. I originally posted this as I was outraged that a human being could be so callous and show such inhumane thoughts directed towards another human being all because a person shows a different political viewpoint. They are outraged if a conservative says something, but they excuse a liberal.
I do understand both sides say and do things. Nobody was ever arguing they didn't. But that's all they are interested in. Giving this guy a free pass with what he said because bad things have been said about their guy. They don't stick to the topic at hand and they never will.
They just want to blame conservatives for every bad thing that ever happens and give their side a free ride. Then if you ever bring up anything their side says you get blasted with the "its okay because conservatives have said bad things". They claim that they think what this guy said is wrong, but their actions with the "so what, conservatives have said bad things" attitude shows the opposite.
I'm sick of the double standards and hypocrits on the liberal side.
Nobody ever said conservatives have not said bad things, but they have a very difficult time with admitted the wrong in the liberal side. They just want to argue.
I've had it with the lot of em and their attack methods. They claim hypocrit and double standards on conservative side when the word doesn't even fit into the original message. Guess the "racist" word ran dry so this is now what they say instead.
But their hypocrisy and double standard shine through loud and clear. I've stopped trying to explain anything to them. They are not interested.
If you keep repeating something over and over again, - guess what?
[ In Reply To ..]Nothing changes. The double standard is yours and all those who cannot admit ne single fact. Both parties do this and whenever they do, they deserve equal condemnation. Don't be so blind, deaf and dumb. The original poster who replied to your post was the first to opint this out.
And only seeing double standards in the party - anon
[ In Reply To ..]you oppose changes nothing. There are double standard on the democrat/progressive/communist side.
Ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist will not make it go away.
Never said there wasn't any double standards on the conservative side, but there are double standards on your side as well. Pretending there aren't any isn't going to change anything. Sometimes one has to take their head out of the sand to see what is going on.
BOTH SIDES DO IT!!!
Yes, please don't be so blind, deaf and dumb.
At least the Democrat - apologized for his words.nm
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Republicans have apologized for things they said - and not all democrats have apologized
[ In Reply To ..]Not all democrats always apologize
Not all republicans always apologize.
Democrats say bad things.
Republicans say bad things.
BOTH SIDES DO IT!!!
At least Joe Wilson apologized for calling out the word "lie"
Harry Reid never apologized for calling Bush a liar.
BOTH SIDES DO IT!!!
I agree with everything except one. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Telling the truth about liars requires no apologies....ever.
THANK YOU!!!!!! Words of wisdom - anon
[ In Reply To ..]The American people have the right to know when they are being lied to, no matter what party does it.
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