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Thank you, Mr President. Black community sees verdict through


Posted: Jul 19, 2013

that doesn't go away."  That is so true, even for the rest of us who have lived through and born witness to the pre- and post-civil rights eras.  I cannot pretend to know what the experience is like first-hand, but as an old white woman who's been sympathetic to civil rights issues and politically active for as long as I can remember, it is impossible to view the case outside of its historical context.  Ever since the verdict was given, I have been reliving those not-so-good old days when institutional and socially acceptable racism was the order of the day and equality for Americans of all colors was just a fool's pipe dream.  

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I grew up very poor, often homeless, and I can - testify that police and other authorities

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treat poor whites extremely badly too, often abusively. I speak from experience.

The difference is that whites can change that just by putting on new clothes and walking through a nicer neighborhood.

Not exactly the same for Trayvon, who, in fact, was dressed like a middle-class teenager in that area and was from a middle class neighborhood and middle class family.

I was driving a car that was in bad repair paint-wise. - Cop stopped me

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He said I didn't stop quite enough or long enough at a stop sign. He was so rude. I doubt very much I would have received the same treatment if I had been driving a newer car. Appearance means a lot.

Now I have a newer car and have never been stopped for any reason.

I take that a step further and I think black people can't change their appearance and they are judged on the color of their skin and there is nothing they can do about it.

Black community does see things differently. - Example

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Had a black friend in an office where I worked where some white people were finding fault with her. She sometimes would end up in tears. I asked her why she did not get another job and she said I would not understand what it was like to be judged by your skin color before you even opened your mouth to interview or give your credentials.

I never thought of things that way but knowing some racist people I am sure that is true.

perspective - sh

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White young male. He shaves his head (low maintenance for job and to beat the heat on job). He is also a redneck from the deep south. He is not a skinhead nor a racist, but he gets treated that way by the black community so much so that he gets nervous to be around them b/c they profile him as a Nazi. Hmmmm.

Young white male has options to grow hair - Blacks cannot change skin color

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Big difference.
He isn't white. He's Hispanic - Big difference
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Who isn't white? - ?
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The option to not shave your head remains the same for any race or ethnic group.
re-posted so you can read it this time - sm
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http://general.mtstars.com/355515.html
I was referring to previous poster who said - person was not white but Hispanic
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Do you know who they were referring to?
yes, I was responding to that poster also - sm
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I think that poster jumped the gun and was talking about Zimmerman, even though the haircut post had nothing whatsoever to do with him.

right. - it's amazing Britney survived

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WYM is choosing a hairstyle. BYM cannot choose - his skin color.

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Furthermore, it's rather naive and kind of insulting to presume the entire black community would judge him on based strictly on his haircut.  My 51-yo white husband has shaved his head every morning for the past 15 years and has never been mistaken for a skinhead by any of the many blacks he works around as an OTR truck driver, a job that takes him to all 50 states.  But then again, since he's an immigrant who has been on the receiving end of ethnic and religious affiliation discrimination and profiling, he treats all Americans with equal respect, both in thought and deed.


He does not sport tatts, emblazoned with Confederate flags, like this



He doesn't travel in packs that walk with a swagger, like this:



He doesn't open his scowling mouth to shout racial epithets while flashing the white power sign, like this:



Carry baseball bats and beat up folks he believes to be the "enemy," like this:



Plaster hatred all over his face, like this:



Proudly cover his heart with a swastika, like this: 



and wouldn't dream of emulating white nationalists, like this:



No, indeed.  Instead we enjoy the long-term relationships we've had over the years with friends and neighbors of all sorts of colors and stripes....bald head and all.  


 


 


 


 

So then you are saying that we should not act (as in follow - or attack) based on

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how someone looks?

One of the reason Travon was profiled, it is argued, was because of his hoodie. Black thugs/criminals are known to wear them. So all black guys who wear hoodies are suspected of being a criminal.

The white guy who shaves his head is profiled as a skinhead nazi, even though he is not, because that particular group shaves their heads. So all white guys who shave their heads must be nazi skinheads.

Neither are acceptable.

I assume that by giving this example that this is your point, that you agree that Zimmerman was incorrect in profiling an otherwise innocent teenager, and going after him, just as the the black coworkers would definitely be punished if they went after the supposed skinhead.

President Division - Shelley

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Is this supposed to help the situation? Don't see how it could....A president that is constantly justifying and accentuating a racial divide (even injecting race into a situation where it was not an issue), thereby making it worse, is not doing anything to make this potentially explosive situation any better. Also, Stand Your Ground was not part of this trial at all, nor was race profiling. It is painfully obvious what is going on here...it is the division of this America that Obama wants, not the unification. It seems every word out of his mouth is meant to divide us racially, socioeconmically and even by age (the old against the young). So not looking forward to the next three years.

He has done nothing but divide us since he (sm) - Abby

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took office, in just the ways you posted. He never misses the opportunity to pit one group against the other. He has NO BUSINESS injecting himself into this case. NONE WHATSOEVER. Our judicial system has done its work, whether you agree with the verdict or not. His goal is to divide, and if we were all smarter we wouldn't let him; but that's exactly what we are letting him do by all this infighting. Mission accomplished for Obama.

and here we thought you wanted to discuss racism - mission accomplished, eh?

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What on earth is your problem. You people have been (sm) - Abby
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belly aching for days that the topic was supposed to be political. We have been telling you that Obama, Holder and Sharpton have made it political. Now Obama shows his true colors (no pun intended) on getting involved in a case that has already been decided (before it was decided as well, btw) and now you want to make it about racism. **********

I find it very sad and disturbing - Mrs. Tingles - sm

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That someone who wants all the luxuries of the position has no interest in uniting the country. Our country has never been more divided than it is today. Instead of trying to heal the country and get people to live side by side he is inciting the division.

Did he comment on other cases like Anthony or Arias? No. I think what he is saying is proving that he is not as smart as people think he is.

I find it very sad and disturbing that this is how he gets his jollies, by dividing people. Sad, sad day for all of America. But like you said....mission accomplished.
Yes, he should have commented on Anthony and Arias - sm
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Because superficial, airhead party girls who commit crimes are discriminated against, are a pervasive social issue, and a speech about them would have done so much to unite our country.

What would you have him say?

Myopia much? - just saying

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Too bad you are so BIASED you are unable to even see what he was trying to do!

By explaining how black people feel to be profiled JUST because of the color of their skin, he was trying to calm people. but I am sure this will sail over many of those who are intent on hating obama because they cannot see logic no matter how clear it is to the rest of us.
A big AMEN to your post!! Thank you. (nm) - Libby
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The way I view it - mbmt

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I think that the dividers are the people that constantly claim that President Obama is dividing us. There is nothing to suggest that he is not looking out for the interests of all Americans.

Try harder. - Reality check.

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President Obama did not invent the racial divide. Racists did that. Racial profiling, a concept so onerous the judge felt compelled to ban its very mention, was, is and always will be at the core of this case, regarding GZ's actions, the case presentations by both the prosecution and defense (who felt compelled to present "evidence" of a crime Trayvon did NOT commit to justify GZ's allegedly NON-racial profiling, LOL), the perceptions of witness credibility, and the jurors inability to relate to TM, his family, or the black witnesses. The same can be said for stand your ground law. It played part of the way the "investigation" was conducted, the way the case was presented by both sides, the way "self defense" was defined in the juror instructions and the way juror B37 interpreted the case....by her own words.

All the president did was to recognize and verbalize the realities faced by the black communities' parents and their children. Those determined to be divided will see that simple gesture as provocative and divisive while the rest of us will be doing our best to engage in constructive dialogue to confront this deeply shameful and painful American experience, shared by citizens of all colors.

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