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The conflict on the CA verdict

Posted: Jul 10, 2011

Let's say you were married, then divorced. What if you and your ex shared custody of your young child. Then say your ex did not return your child to you on the appropriate date. He began telling you stories that would cause a "delay" in the child's return. As time went on and you began pressing more and more to get your chiild back ,he then came up with more reasons why he could not return your child to you, ALL of which were found to be lies.

Then say, God forbid, you would find out that the child was discovered dead sometime later. Would you think that perhaps . . . . just perhaps your ex husband might have had something to do with it?

How happy would you be to see him smiling as he was set free?

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Addition to above - Look at it this way

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I just wanted to add that I brought this up to "explain" what was referred to below as "mob mentality." There is going to be outrage over her walking free for quite some time. However, of course I do not agree with threats being made to anyone. It's a hard one to swallow any way you look at it.

Yes, the logical mind "knows" what happened. In the - old days, before CSI and DNA, Casey

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would be convicted for sure, as the EVIDENCE would have so much more to do with her own behavior. We have lost something with the new technology. Unfortunately, it is common sense. This verdict is so so wrong.

Mind reading? WOW! - shaking my head

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Are you kidding me? Y'all need to PUT DOWN THE BOTTLE you must be drinking from. How is it you have some information that obviously the prosecution didn't have? How is it you know something that the medical examiner could not determine?

SOMEONE killed the child but there is no PROOF her mother is the one who did that.

Thank goodness y'all are merely MTs and not attorneys and heaven forbid JURORS!

We all aren't drinking. The prosecution put on the case. - There was enough evidence to convict.

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Without sufficient evidence the Casey Anthony case wouldn't have been brought to court. Now y'all put down the bottle and educate yourself on the law and how cases are brought to court and why the big picture evidence of what happened in the Casey Anthony case, including a dead child hidden in a swamp with duct tape over the nose and mouth and the fact that the child was missing was not reported by the mother, who once the child's grandmother reported the missing child, consistently lied to those who were looking for her with the intent to mislead, buying time for the body to decompose.

This was sufficient to bring murder charges and IF the jury TOOK THE TIME to consider the evidence from every angle we would have had a guilty verdict. The jury dropped the ball, including dimwit of the year juror 3. You cannot deliberate a complex case like this in less than 11 hours with time out for breaks and lunch. It is impossible to honestly weigh evidence in that short time. One juror had a cruise, the juror 3 wanted to go swimming. They wanted the case to be over.

I said below that I think she probably did it... - I was not on the jury, but I think

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that some credit should be given to the jurors. It is unlikely that they are all stupid, as many people have stated. I still think that this hatred for the jurors is a "mob mentality." I have not changed my mind. I think that she probably did it, but I do not think that the prosecution met their burden. They did not prove an intentional murder, in my opinion, nor, apparently, in the jury's. I doubt that the baby drown and I was actually surprised at the verdict. I don't like Casey Anthony and would have been tempted to render a guilty verdict, even though I don't think that the burden was met. I understand that many very vocal people feel otherwise. That's okay. I truly would rather see someone walk free for a crime that she committed than be put to death for one that she did not.

Maybe, but I would not be saddened by having her "innocent" arse - sitting in prison for a few years. sm

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And exactly how in prison did she manage to grow that head of hair. I've gone without haircuts more than a trim for 10 year periods, eaten Ramen noodles to be able to afford expensive salon brand products, and spent hours smelling like deviled eggs because of the mayo on my hair, and still can't even get it past my shoulders, yet in 3 years she took it from chin halfway down her back using prison quality products, unless Jose was hooking her up with better stuff, and I doubt extensions were available in the prison salon. Or was that hair one of the things she traded her soul to Satan for?

I'm not entirely sure what her hair has to do with anything, but - I cut at least 12 inches off of mine

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about every 18 months, or so, and it is still half way down my back right after the cut. I cut it whenever I end up sitting on it and trim it in between. I imagine it's genetics, not products. Again, I did not say that she was innocent, just that I don't think the prosecution met the burden. And no, no trades with Satan for hair here. There are certainly more important things in life than hair length.

Verdict - yvette

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The public outrage over this travesty of justice is appropriate and hopefully will result in positive changes---such as forbidding jurors from cashing-in on their experience. Our justice system is the best in the world, but in this case, it malfunctioned and the public has every right to say so. These mentally-lazy jurors nullified evidence and failed to grasp the basic concepts that ''reasonable'' doubt does not equal ''absence of all doubt'' and that ''circumstantial'' evidence does not equal ''inadmissible'' evidence. The jurors also disregarded the judge's instruction that they not consider the penalty phase during their deliberations, yet the alternate juror (interviewed on NBC Dateline)said that a huge factor in acquitting her was the death penalty. Now these jurors themselves (today, the foreman #11) are starting to speak out and admit that they regret their verdict. If not for all the public outrage, this would have been swept under the rug while the jurors just sat back awaiting big-money offers to come their way for interviews, books, etc. Thanks to their incompetence and/or unwillingness to do their job, this woman is now free -- and, horrifying as the thought may be-- free also to have as many children as she wants, who may one day become an inconvenience and cramp her lifestyle.

Coming forward - SM

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Did you hear that the jury had a room full of evidence during the deliberation, and they went through NONE of it. That was reported many times. What does that tell you. They were in a hurry to get home. They had already worked Memorial Day and July 4th and had plans. The one juror said his wife has gone into hiding. She is fearful for her life and family. The jury foreman is now coming forward and tonight it was reported that he said just about everyone on the jury feels she did it. If they would have taken the time and done their job things would be different. Thanks, people. You're just a tad late on that one. The public is outraged and will continue to feel this way for quite some time. People keep saying that justice was served. The only person who got justice in the form of a fair trial, was Casey. What about the victim?

What a shame... - that people still think that this

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reaction is appropriate. Some poor innocent woman is forced into hiding because people don't like the verdict that her husband rendered and many people seem to think that there is nothing wrong with this. There is a chance that they "feel" she did it, but also feel that it was not proven. All of this public outrage is why jurors get sequestered--so that they can render a fair judgement without the pressure from thousands of crazies who will threaten their lives if they don't like the outcome.

I never said threats were appropriate - SM

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I am making the point that they took very little time and didn't look at one piece of evidence that they were provided to use during deliberation. Now they come forward and say that they think she did it. Why in the name of God didn't they charge her with one of the lesser crimes if they knew she did it? Just let her go and get home. They definitely failed us. No question about it. They are feeling guilty now, anb because there is such outrage at what they have done they have to try to make excuses for letting her go. It's a done deal now. I pray to God she is unable to reproduce.

I did not say that you said it was appropriate, but - many apparently feel that it is.

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I am guessing that they did not find her guilty of any of the lesser charges because there was not sufficient evidence to do so. You want to know who let "us" down? The prosecution.

Not so - SM

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The prosecution did an excellent job of painting Casey for who she is. They provided jail video phone calls, pictures of partying, all of the lies and not reporting the child missing, etc. Who failed was the police officer who did not follow up on the initial call from Roy Kronk. Months went by with Caylee's body in deep water, and DNA was lost which could have put Casey's prints on the tape, etc. One of the lawyers said that today. The police really slipped up, and the officer who did not follow up was fired.

I disagree. - The police might have messed up, but

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the prosecutors brought a case that they could not win. People wanted to find Casey Anthony guilty, and yet...That is clearly a prosecution problem.

This is clearly a dimwitted jury's problem. - Perfect circumstantial case.

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Jury 3, FOREMAN, blew it again when he said they couldn't consider Casey's behavior even though it was awful. Of course her behavior was to be considered. That why it was presented in evidence in a circumstantial case. I don't think he got it and led many other jury members to disregard her behavior. To me as I suspected, the jury members did a sloppy job being led by an idiot who didn't understand the instructions or disregarded them in his haste to get home and unsequestered. This issue was discussed on Fox News after his interview.

AGREE. - SM

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That's right. With DNA they could have really nailed her, but don't misunderstand. I still think they jury failed miserably. They have a duty to consider everything, and in this case circumstantial evidence was everything. No mother, family member or friend who ever loved anyone would go about living happily like she did.

I agree yvette. - Hope changes come in justice system.

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The jurors did a sloppy job and did not take the time to sufficiently review evidence. Juror 11 spoke on Fox News and it sounds like they were fixated on George because of Baez opening statement. George wasn't on trial. So because of George's demeanor, it caused confusion in jurors who wanted to go home and took what they thought to be an easy way out without much deliberation and admittedly did not go through the evidence. The shadow of George's role from opening statements hung over anything else that proved Casey guilty and that shadow of George's involvement was not part of the evidence.

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