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Posted: Nov 4, 2015

If the GOP takes away our insurance coverage after so many years of not being able to get it because of preexisting conditions, they will be making a fatal mistake. It will be the last nail in their coffin, which by the way is almost there anyway.

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See, this is how it works. Obamacare was pushed assuming states would set up - exchanges, but many didn't and the federal

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government went ahead with the exchanges anyway illegally. So when people become dependent (it's really Medicaid expansion) and the state wants to exercise it's rights not to participate, then people who have become dependent get made at the state. It was a perfectly executed plan by the Obama administration.

What's this "See, this is how it works" business when it isn't factual - nm

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Extremists don't deal with facts. They deal in name-calling and innuendo and scare tactics. I don't deal with that kind of nonsense. I don't deal with name-calling and bullying. I don't deal with people who state ridiculous ideas as facts.

Nonsense? That's what the whole court case was - about!

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If liberals don't even know that, what else don't they know? - Makes you wonder.
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So what is so wrong with people getting - medical coverage?

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What is wrong with Medicaid expansion or Medicare for all? Are you actually saying some people don't deserve medical coverage and they shouldn't get "dependent" on it? Who are those people you are referring to anyway?


I vehemently disagree. Most people who can't get decent coverage are like us, working hard at terrible low paying jobs. Those in power have deregulated the economy to the extent that our wages are bad, our costs are high, we are lucky to even have any job, so now we are supposed to believe that for some reason we don't even deserve health coverage? Why?


What used to come for free with every job has been decimated and now we are made to feel it's our fault our wages are so bad, our fault we can't afford health care coverage. Nope. I don't buy that.

Conservatives started reading and idolizing Ayn Rand about the Makers and the Takers - Really scary stuff in my opinion

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Ayn Rand, an atheist who believed that Makers are the people who do well and the Takers want to take everything they have created, is the darling of the Conservatives. I have family members who are far-right Extremists who are currently busily reading her book and quoting from it as if it were the Bible, even though it's against what the Bible teaches. It's similar to the "If God loves you, you will be rich" crowd which I'll never understand. I've read the Bible through from beginning many times and it says nothing of the kind. People hear what they want to hear. They believe what they want to be is a fact and they will die defending their fact that really isn't, just because it sounds good to them. I have no earthly idea what they get from loving Ayn Rand's concepts because there's nothing to love, nothing to respect, nothing to idolize, and yet they do.
Standard Saul Alinsky reponse to Ayn Rand and those who are - self reliant. She had some good ideas
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and some bad ideas. Self reliance does not mean selfishness.
I like the concept of individual private ownership as opposed - to the collectivist model.
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At the rate that the fed. gov. is burning through cash for Obamacare, it - would have been much cheaper

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to buy insurance for anyone who didn’t have it.

That's another nonsensical idea not based on fact because it never would have happened - sm

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This is a tactic used to change the subject from people finally getting the insurance they so drastically needed. "We could have done it better" but you didn't. It never would have happened.
Makes perfect sense to some people. Offer Medicaid to the uninsured, - the rest of use would not have lost our insurance
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or had our premiums triple.
GOP had the power to make it happen and they did nothing - They are proud to get tax-payer money for doing no
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They are worth nothing as leaders. They cannot govern. They do nothing. They should be paid nothing, but they get tax-payer money for doing nothing and they are proud of it.

Absolutely, but the purpose of Obamacare (and Gruber admitted) - is single payer and to put the insurance

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companies out of business.
Well, please, hurry up then, Obamacare - of what use is insurance?
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Certain things should NOT be for profit. Health care is one.

The fact that insurance company executives are top of the list of million dollar bonus-getters AND donate big mostly (to mostly Republicans of course so they can defend those obscene profits) is absolutely disgusting.

I so wish they could get insurance out of health care, but hey rah rah capitalism, right?

Oh, for Heaven's sakes, stop listening to MSNBC. - They're not taking anything.

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Wise up

The candidates say they are from their own lips on camera - nm

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Go after insurance lobbyists, not Dems or GOP. - nm

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