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USA HAS FINALLY GOTTEN OSAMA BIN LADEN

Posted: May 1, 2011

President Obama to announce momentarily that Osama Bin Laden is dead and the USA has his body.

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He was killed in Tora Bora attack. - Scholar

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Oh yeah?! That's REALLY interesting, since intel experts around the world say he did in the Tora Bora attack.

EVERY single "video" of OBL released by the CIA has been FAKED.

OBL was a former CIA agent, code name Tim Osman. His family has had -- and still does have -- EXTENSIVE Bush family ties.

The U.S. government used him as a "bogey man" for the phony 09/11 "attacks' and the subsequent War on Terrrr. Even the FBI has NEVER listed OBL as a suspect in the 09/11 "attacks" due to lack of evidence.

If you believe this propaganda, then I'm expecting you to say "bbbhaaaaahhhhaaaaaa" any second.

I get it, another birther off on a conspiracy chase? - RadMT

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Just for today, can we ALL just be AMERICANS today? At least let us listen to the evidence first and then make a judgment? It almost seems that some are hoping this is not true! But I do not want to believe that is the case because that would be not only pathetic but also extremely unpatriotic. Our sons and daughters are fighting and dying because of what this man did.

Would have taken you seriously about - can we all be Americans

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if you had not taken the "birther" shot. Doubt a "birther" would be posting a Bush conspiracy theory. That being said, I am glad he is gone. I just have one question...why bury him at sea? Was there any reason given for doing that?

Buried at sea so no "shrine" - nm

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Ah....well I am sure that will sit well with - home team. Now does

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this mean we can stop fighting in Afghanistan because the supposed reason for escalating there was to get bin Laden? And turns out he was not there anyway (which I think we all knew).

Ummm, does dismantling the Taliban, destroying AQ camps and - undermining their leadership

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ring any bells? How about the war on terror being multidimensional? Even wisecracks should be based on some semblance of reality. Your rhetorical question and its underlying intent is too absurd to merit further comment.

Ummm....it was President Obama who said - that is why we stayed

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in Afghanistan and even escalated it. He never used the word multidimensional, dismantling the Taliban, destroying AQ camps, undermining their leadership...I guess then you are saying his underlying intent was too absurd to merit further comment.

Thank you for filling me in. You might want to apply for job as his press secretary. Obviously if he had said what you just said he would have come off better and I could have quoted him better.

ROFLMAO.

Please provide a link to your source where Obama stated - OBL was the reason we

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went to Afghanistan.

You seem to be confusing OBL the person with AQ the organization. As they say: The devil is in the details. During the campaign he was very clear on his belief that Afghanistan should be the focus of the WOT and that Iraq was a "distraction" (a term his base felt was WAY too gracious). He spoke of terrorism, corruption, illegal drugs, bolstering troop strength, instability and counterinsurgency.

Once in office, early on he linked his Afghan strategy to Pakistan strategy. He called for international involvement in isolating AQ and economic development in the region. I believe his exact words were, "I want the American people to understand that we have a clear and focused goal: to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat al Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and to prevent their return to either country in the future." See link below. Please note that in that speech, he very specifically stated that Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri WERE IN PAKISTAN. He also specifically mentioned preventing the return of the Taliban to Afghanistan. He went on to further address Pakistan on that occasion. His policy on Afghanistan has not strayed from these original concepts.

I will ask you again. Please furnish a link to your source where Obama is claiming that OBL was in Afghanistan, that is if you can manage to get yourself off the floor and control your fits of laughter long enough to hold an adult conversation on the subject.

http://middleeast.about.com/od/usmideastpolicy/a/me090327.htm

You said it yourself. He said several times - during his campaign

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at the same time he was talking about withdrawal in Iraq...that the purpose of remaining Afghanistan was to get bin Laden. You know, at the same time he was promising to start withdrawal from Iraq his first day in office. So far that has not happened.

Yes, at some point in his admin the focus changed, but that does not change the fact that during his campaign he was all about getting and killing bin Laden and to do that had to stay in Afghanistan because that is where he was.

I suspect you know that, but you just can't get away from that condescending crap which...by the way...gets in the way of adult conversation.

Still waiting, by the way, to see the withdrawal of troops from Iraq. During is campaign he said "bring our troops HOME." The only ones that have been removed have been redeployed to Afghanistan.

Last week the BC, this week bin Laden, what next week? He going to find Jimmy Hoffa?

Just checking.

I said no such thing. AQ the group is not - sm

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synonymous with OBL the person. In fact, I pointed out the specific reference he made to Bin Laden being IN PAKISTAN. Clean off those specs and try reading it again. He could not have made it more clear. There is not a single direct reference to Bin Laden in terms of being the reason we were/are in Afghanistan, either before or after he took office. Statements he has made about Bin Laden have not been tied to foreign policy relative to any single country. Obama stated in no uncertain terms that Bin Laden would be killed, and killed he was, while at the same time detailing very specific goals in Afghanistan and Pakistan described in my prevous post.

Now if you can come up with some verifiable reference to his policies or speeches to dispute this, feel free.

In the words of no1joe, the canned condescending schtick is not worthy of pursuit except to say that adult conversations cannot be held in the absence of facts and some attempt at intellectual discourse. Those who resent others who make such attempts only end up coming off as ill informed, emotionally volitile and immature. This line of dialog adds nothing at all to the exercising the subject at hand and only serves the purpose of dodging issues you are trying to avoid.

Your Iraq reference is another transparent attempt to divert. I would be happy explore that subject with someone who can demonstrate some sign of knowing what they are taking about, but another round of Obama bashing holds no interest for me. Besides, that was Ws boondoggle. Were you equally frustrated over the 7-year wait during his administration, or is this impatience specially reserved for Obama?

You cannot seriously believe these innuendoes suggesting that the release of the BC was somehow suspect are in any way believable, given the relentless stalking, bullying and costly legal proceedings his opposition tirelessly pursued over the past few years, can you? Again, I have no interest in reigniting dead-end dialog that has nothing whatsoever to do with the reality of my existence. You are barking up the wrong tree.

Face it. The man has had a really good week and his foes are falling all over themselves trying to do damage control. They appear to be especially crisped over the death of Bin Laden (as opposed to relieved and happy for the victims families who finally got justice after 10 long years). So far, it does not seem to be making a dent.

Pontificating pointless prattle. But...whatever - floats the condescending

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boat. You aspire to be no1joe, I take it.

and kinda cuts down on any "you did this" running in the streets bologna. - anon

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All "deserving to sleep with the fishies" aside so to speak...I think it sends a great message to his followers.

Whereas these 'conspiracy' theories to win an election are quite delusional, that message seriously taken and written off as same. Too left field for debate.

I misunderstand all those conspiratorial thoughts - RadMT

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It was such craziness, I just figured it was from the same crowd who believes the President is not really an American. Never heard all that foolishness before.

An honest and understandable mistake, to be sure. - I agree

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about the craziness therein being reminiscent of birthers.

Being buried at sea is an honor - sm

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We went through this when my father died and we buried him at sea and learned about it. It's an honor and I'm still trying to figure out what he did to earn that honor. It also does not provide proof. I think they should have buried him in a trash dump landfill.

With that said and how glad I am he is gone I do have to say that I think it absolutely sick and demented that people are out partying whooping it up making the devils sign in front of the camera. I don't think that sends a good message to other countries. I think it's quite a sobering moment and still trying to grasp the true meaning of all this. But to see a bunch of punks, who most likely do not even know who OBL is to be partying, appearing drunk, and giving the devils sign yelling wooooo, woooooo, wooooo in front of the camera is somewhat nauseating. All I have to say is I feel bad for our troops if any of the people who followed OBL and carried out his wicked orders to kill and behead people are watching these numbskulls partying like it's 4th of July. I do pray for their safety.

Being buried at sea is an honor for someone....sm - me

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who loves the sea, others who hate water, not so much.

Being buried at sea means a meal for the sharks. - I hope they dont get indigestion....!

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LOL - however - see message

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Okay, physical wise yes, its a meal to the sharks (ewww, poor sharks). However, when my father passed he was buried at sea. The group that was in charge of this told us it's to honor and respect for those who wish to be buried this way. IMHO, OBL does not deserve the same honor given to so many others. He's a piece that should have been tossed into the landfills where the rest of our garbage ends up. To me, being buried at see for a person like that is an insult to my father who fought in the war and the other brave service men and others who are buried at see. At least that is my opinion.

Amen - An American

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I think Chris Mathews said it all this morning when he recalled how many had to choose between burning to death or jumping out of the towers. This earth is free of at least one evil. God bless the United States of America. Good bless our Military.

good luck with that - . no message

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one more thing. Obama 2012 - . no message

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Sorry, while I am glad Obama is toast... - it does not change the

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fact that Obama is a lousy President presiding over a lousy economy. All this proves is that we have the best military on the face of this earth. God bless them!!

oopss, sorry, Osama is toast...gimme a break, - only 1 letter diff... :(

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Heh, Obama isn't toast. I think this just made a 2012 win locked in. - nm

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...and I think you could not be more wrong. - The American Military

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are responsible for this. I am hoping he (Obama) does not try to take personal credit for it. What a sorry and sad joke that would be. This is America's victory, not HIS.

If you had kept reading before you crowed...I corrected myself. I meant OSAMA was toast. Just one letter difference in the names.

However, Obama WILL be toast if he tries to take personal credit for this.

Obama is commander-in-chief of the military ... - me

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Personally, I think he has a right to take credit.

But I'm not going to argue with you.

And if Bush had gotten him like he promised -- - Would Bush be allowed to take credit?nm

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Bush already made his quote: "It is a great - day for the US." He

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did not take any credit. And no, he should not have taken personal credit if it happened on his watch.

And since you went down that road...under which administration was Sheikh Mohammed captured, and all the intelligence gathered that helped this happen...the Bush admin.

And who let bin Laden go when he had him, which actually could have prevented 9-11 from happening? Clinton.

You opened that door.

Even Bush praised President Obama for finally - getting bin Laden.nm

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President Bush is a gracious man. Thank - you for pointing that out.

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Now if only I could say that about the current President.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/may/1/no-class-obama-snubs-bush-praises-himself/

Of course - mbmt

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There you go toeing that party line again... - tsk tsk tsk. nm

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Ha? - mbmt

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How am I toeing the party line by saying that if Bush had gotten Bin Laden it would have been okay for him to take credit for it???

The American people are not that stupid - no message

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I agree. Electing him in 2008 - sm

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by such a comfortable margin shows the same superior collective intellect that re-elected Bill Clinton despite the best efforts by the witch hunters of the day.

obama locked in? - askeptic

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I completely disagree, he is NOT a lock in for 2012 after all he didn't do anything, OUR MILITARY did. Of course though, someone as arrogant as him WOULD take the credit for the sweat, blood and tears that our armed forces have shed for this & other missions.

OUR MILITARY does not operate in a vacuum. - sm

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Ask any one of them who their Commander-in-Chief is.

Hey...it's ok. Teddy Kennedy called Obama - Osama by mistake too. nm

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obama/osama toast - askeptic

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LMAO we knew what you meant and I agree, our Armed Forces are THE BEST and THEY and ONLY THEY deserve the kudos for this (if it\'s true). However I am a realist and have been \'fooled\' by our gov\'t before and I choose to walk gently on my opinion of this as we saw S. Hussein when we killed him but there seemed to be quite a bit of a rush to \'bury him at sea\'. All I ask is WHY? Don\'t bother answering, I\'ve heard it all and you cannot provide the answers to me. Obama himself can call and tell me and I still wouldn\'t believe him, I would believe the shooter and whoever else was involved in the mission.

Osama was on the top of FBI 10 most - wanted list. They

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obviously wanted him for SOMETHING. lol.

This is what I found - SureHopeWeGotHim

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http://michellemalkin.com/2011/05/01/reports-bin-laden-killed-a-week-ago-by-us-missile-confirmed-tonight/

Bush was right... remember what he said? - Indy

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Regarding bin Laden...We will not tire (we didn't). We will not falter (we didn't). We will not fail (we didn't).

We finally got him. It has been a combined effort since 9-11 happened, under two administrations....our military is the greatest in the world, they never gave up, and a SEAL team took him down.

I enjoyed seeing the young people out saying the pledge of allegiance spontaneously and waving the American flag in NYC. I wish they could hang onto that sense of love of country and patriotism. I would so love to see that recovered nationwide.

It is a good day for the US.

Yeah. Too bad Junior was a moron who quickly lost his - focus on bin Laden.nm

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And too bad Obama is the moron presiding - over the worst economy

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we have had in years...which, incidentally, has not changed with the death of bin Laden. Moron? Really? You had to take us there today??

"The worst" economy is yet another of the Bush - failures that needs to be fixed also.nm

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And when does Obama plan to do that? - Fix it I mean. First

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he needs to stop making it worse. That would be a great start.

You're funny.

Why fix it when he can blame it on someone else - nm

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That's the MO alright.

GOOD POINT. - nm

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This time we agree! nm - oldtimer

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Not to the OP - sm

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To all the nitpickers in between.

If they truly did get him, great! Does every post have to turn into a childish game of nitpicking? Save those for other posts. Yes, if Bush had been in, he probably would have taken credit too. As one poster said, the president is commander in chief (not nitpicking, just stating a fact), but it really doesn't matter who got him, the fact is that they got him (hopefully).

well said - true

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Thanks for the nice remarks.

All the negativity is so disappointing.

Osama - askeptic

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No, we do NOT have his body as he was 'buried at sea' the same night of his death. Suspicious isn't it??? Why would we care about his muslim traditions after all the Americans he killed?? It does NOT make sense.

Well at least I say this - see message

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They seemed to take care of the 911 truther people and birther people all in the same weekend. Nipped that one right in the bud they did. Coincidence? Hmmmm. Gotta make you wonder.

How does the OBL assassination do anyting whatsoever to - sm

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"take care of" the so-called truthers? One has nothing to do with the other. As for the birthers, their own simple-minded stupidity, obsession with mindless bankrupt campaign rhetoric and affinity for baseless smear campaigns is what did them in.

OBL assassination? Are you saying Obama - had OBL assassinated?

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An assassination is "to murder (a usually prominent person) by a sudden and/or secret attack, often for political reasons."

Are you calling the President a murderer? In the same breath with "birthers" and "truthers?"

REALLY....you raise an interesting spectacle, based on the kill and not capture order.

Hmmm....one of his own followers accusing him of assassination. Must be TRUE then, right?? Since you have no obsession with mindless bankrupt campaign rhetoric or affinity for baseless smear campaigns of course.

From the horse's mouth, folks. Obama had bin Laden assassinated.

LOL...sorry. I find this hysterical.

Now lets see here. We have spent the entire day - assigning credit to

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anyone and everyone EXCEPT Obama when it comes time to recognize the SUCCESS of a military operation headed up by the Commander-in-Chief aimed at taking out the worlds #1 most reknown terrorist, but now that we call a spade a spade by accurately and appropriately invoking the A-word, suddenly Obama stands alone in this endeavor. The hysteria is all yours, dear. Enjoy.

The word murderer was also yours, not mine. If splitting hairs is your forte, then we must conclude by your logic that the special ops military troops/hit men were guilty of first degree murder, while Obama, the security council and the military commanders were all accessories, guilty of second degree murder by complicity, or murder for hire, as it were. Pretty absurd, considering the reality of the circumstances, back here on planet Earth.

Let me make this perfectly clear. Obama, his advisors, the military commanders and the special ops troops involved in the operation assassinated Osama bin Laden. That is exactly what I am saying and, in case you hadnt noticed, I make no apologies for having done so.

Now, the question is raised within this context, is this MURDER or is it JUSTICE? After all, sometimes it is dern near impossible to distinguish between the two, huh? My guess would be that in your world, if W did it, it would be justice, but since Obama did, its murder. Does that mean that every time the death penalty is carried out (especially in light of incontrovertable evidence and open admissions of guilt), the state, prison officials, wardens and executioners are all murderers?

Pardon me while I make one last observation. If you find humor in all this, you are one sick puppy.

Assassination is murder, by definition. - I don't think O would

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characterize it as "assassination," though...too many negative connotations. However, you are exactly right....when you issue a kill don't capture order, that is definitely assassination. May I point out, dead men tell no tales? Neither do their bodies, if they are sleeping in Davey Jones' locker.

As to the men who carried it out, the military are following the orders of their commander in chief. As to the security council...I did not know the UN was involved. How were they involved and Pakistan wasn't?

Absured statement the death penalty since they did receive a trial. Again, dead men tell no tales. If those people were just caught and shot and dumped in SF bay, then yeah, I'd say there were assassinated, not executed.

What I find humor in, by the way, is you.

The sick puppy comment...come on. Even with all the above-it-all condescending crap you just can't resist the childish gotcha.

I see you have avoided the subject of justice - like the plague, huh?

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Still trying to take those pathetic stabs at humor are we? It does not matter what tales dead men tell or do not tell or where they sleep when there are no tales to tell. It is also of no issue to me what Obama calls it, since we both agree that by definition, this is an assassination.

You failed to connect the dots between murder, assassination, execution and justice. Pretty deep doo-doo, isnt it? Your answer probably hinges on which way the political winds are blowing in the moment and whether you are addressing a fellow partisan or not. That would explain why you also avoided the question about whether this would be justice at Ws hands but murder at Obamas. No matter there either. Just ask the victims, first responders, military family members and the millions of Americans around the country who have NOT seized this moment to drag the prez through the mud whether or not this is justice.

I guess one persons statement of fact is anothers childish gotcha. Case in point: Endless references to buzz buzz buzz condescending crap. Eloquent in certain circles I suppose, but downright crude, silly and exceedingly redundent in others. Ineffective to boot. I am the first one to admit that yes, within your context I am elitist, condescending, drink kool-aid, etc, etc, the whole nine yards, wear it proudly, make no exuses for it, have developed a thick hide to facilitate that water-off-a-ducks-back effect and become 100% insult-proof. That is what happens when you run a buzz word or phrase into the ground, ressurect it and run it into the ground over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Dont mind repeating myself here. I find nothing humerous about folks who are so partisan that they are incapable of simply allowing this event to unfold in ways that provide a little comfort and closure for 9/11 and military families, not EVEN FOR AN HOUR OR TWO, without dragging out all the Obama bashes and cranking up all these ridiculous conspiracy plots and what-EVVER. Sick is too kind a word. Obscene is more like it.

How many times have you read this over - and screamed "SO THERE!

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at your screen. You really have a lot of room to call someone else partisan.

And yeah...you do have condescending crap down to a fine art. There, I said. You EXCEL at condescending crap. You are the QUEEN or KING of condescending crap. Your contemporaries should erect a statue of you in downtown Berkeley, that is if they can stop picketing the recruiting station long enough.

You might wanna run spellcheck before you post the next time.

And don't get your knickers in such a knot...not good for your blood pressure.

Stupidity? - Can we get off the name calling please - See message!!!

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You have no right to call anyone stupid!

If you don't believe fine, ya know we get it, enough already!!!

Stop calling people stupid just because they don't believe the same thing you do because ya know what...they think the same thing back at ya. But at least they have the decency to not be arrogant and call you names and be an about it.

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