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Racist Michelle stirs up a hornet's nest at (sm)

Posted: May 11, 2015

graduation speech. Why must these Obamas stir up race at every turn? It's always the poor me mentality. Grow a backbone, Michelle. Maybe you'd find out you're really not such a victim after all. Poor little rich girl.

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Yeah, Michelle, everything is just fine - with race relations in Amerika

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Why do you have to be so ungrateful? Look how far you've come. Don't you worry about anybody else. They are just fine. Just keep your mouth shut and leave in 2017, go back to the hole you came out of---you weren't needed here to begin with. (sarcasm alert)

Go back to Chicago ( your real home) and join the Crips. - nm

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nm

Go back to Alabama orTexas (your real home), join the KKK and secede please - viewpoint, not the commenter (updated)

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UPDATE: 05/11/2015 7:50

Many posts were removed today, particularly under the "Gulf Nations" thread, to include the moderators.

I'd brought up that somebody created confusion by PS-ing my comment under the Ben Carson thread as if they were its author on Saturday, and that I'd left a comment that if it happened again, I'd let others know it wasn't me and report them (as you'd warn a child before consequence because it was a childish act).

Mine was removed, the PS stayed, and the moderator left a comment today under the Gulf Nation thread that the Ben Carson comment was removed because I'd "threatened another commenter" that I'd "gang up on them". This accusation ha now been deleted.

However, here is both the removed comment and the moderator's email stating why they deleted it and you can see, it says nothing close to that. Somebody's lying, but it ain't me. Why?

This is now the 5th comment I've added this update to, 4 have already disappeared without reason given.

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Wow, anything right-wing racists post on this - board seems to be tolerated.

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That's not right-wing racist. Maybe that's why - it stays

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Since Obama came from Chicago and calls it his home, that is not racists. Saying the name of a gang is not racist either.

Oh, they never come out and say it directly; - they always try to disquise it.

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But it doesn't take a PhD in English or a degree in rocket science to read between the lines of these "hidden" slurs.

Anyone who wants to join the racist wagon will always find something - that's not racial and try and turn it into

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Every single sentence that anyone says is being turned into a faux "racial slur". My uncle calls my aunt mama, my father calls my mom mama. Mama is not a racial slur no matter how many people want to try and say it is. You just can make up stuff. Next thing we'll hear is papa is racist, mommy is racist, grandma is racist, etc, etc.

Mama is not racist period!

It isn't the word, it's the prevailing tone. - Nuances, my dear, nuances.

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Must have limited exposure - It was "Baby Mama"

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not "mama." And Baby Mama is a derogatory term used about those significant others in the black community who are single and have children. Does your father call your mother or grandmother that?

Only a true racist demagogue like Michelle who - has led a privileged life

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feign such anger for the sole purpose of instilling anger in others and leading them to believe the country they live in is against them.

America can't survive this and I think we’re outnumbered.

Michelle seems to have a chip on her shoulder, - and I think something else is

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going on here. We have a country that elected a black president. I'm tired of the racist narrative.

What's the real agenda?

What America can't survive is much more of - the GOP. Its bringing us all down.

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Which is why it's time for it to be dismantled and discarded.

They are not in charge, they have no power. It's the - Democrats who are in charge,

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the universities, media, etc.

Not in Congress and don't forget their "sovereignty" letter to Iran - nm

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nm

I actually thought we were doing much better - on the issues of race

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before 2004.

I was very poor when I was young and I had many obstacles to overcome. We all do. I think that identity and grievance politics is further dividing the country.

The right wing is dividing the country. - Its their strategy: Divide & conquer.

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The left is in charge, the media, the country, college, - they are the ones dividing us.

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nm

Education and information --the root of all - Evil

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Says the Republican brainwashing camp.

No they're not, they're trying to find some common - ground, only Pub Congress wont allow it.

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nm

Do you mean people accepted racism and - didn't represent themselves

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I might agree that the situation was "under control." Many knew better than to make any waves if they wished any peace at all. The problem is, as the Bush years continued and the poor got poorer, those same people realized they had nothing to lose. They might as well argue for equality as they were being forgotten and trampled in the current process.

I understand how equality for everyone can be a scary thing for those who have been at the top (and top is relative). I have often thought this all boiled down to an animalistic pecking order, whether people would be willing to recognize that or not. The competition amongst people under the guise of "right and wrong" has always amused me---then they throw in a dose of Christian and anything can be justified.

putting the First Lady together with a street gang - sm

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is totally debasing talk, and it's exactly the same thing as describing the well educated and extremely competent Tuskegee Airmen as "childish" and "unmoral."

The baby mama phrase is from something she said herself - in 2004 when presenting

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Obama at a convention.

Fox News baby mama scandal - see link

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Reference I found for 2004 says she introduced Barack Obama as her Baby's Daddy...not the same connotation, AT ALL.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0608/Foxs_addresses_baby_mama_drama_Producer_used_poor_judgment.html

I remember Obama's preacher, Jeremiah Wright, remarking - about garlic bulb-nosed Italians

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and he had a laundry list of pejoratives against European-Americans.

Jesse Jackson repeatedly made fun of - Jews. NM

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NM

And, are we discussing the targets of Wright - objecting to his deeds?

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your point? do you have a point with this?

We could spend the rest of lives naming people who have said something about someone. The point is that national media has felt it appropriate to openly criticize in a derogatory way with racist attributes the wife of the President of the United States, who is black. She has a point to make and a platform to make it from.

That is really the problem isn't it, that she has a pulpit to speak from and people are listening?

Tuskegee is historically black. Translation? Hornet's nest = whites not even there - using "mama" as race slur (update)

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Tuskegee University is historically a predominantly African American university. Discussing how it felt to view racist cartoon depictions of herself with an Afro and a machine gun from New Yorker magazine is appropriate, when speaking to young African Americans about obstacles they'll have to overcome. It was an uncharacteristically more vulnerable (and therefore brave) thing for her to do, IMO. Since the audience was mostly black and in agreement, the only hornet's nest then would be white men using "mama" as a racial slur, stirring up their own nest over it.

However, it is also interesting the president's wife is being attacked in the post over saying something one time Al Sharpton says every day, at college speeches and otherwise. Why, because she's a woman "speaking out of turn?" Or is it because she showed vulnerability, for a change, and some racist misogynists think that means it's open season on black (AND female) wives of politicians?

With women helping out this viewpoint and not realizing it's an attack on women, too (that is, if "Mama" is really a woman;)

Apparently the OP also forgot to mention that the article said "Obama also stressed that those experiences were “not an excuse” to “lose hope.”

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UPDATE 5/11/2015: Many comments have disappeared today, particularly under the "Gulf" thread, including the moderator's own comment.

During that discussion, I'd brought up that somebody created confusion by PS-ing my comment as if they were its author on Saturday, under the Ben Carson thread. I'd left a comment that if it happened again, I'd let others know it wasn't me and report them (as you'd warn a child before consequence because it was a childish act).

Mine was removed, but PS stayed, and I received the following email - note it doesn't say anything close to what the moderator CLAIMED (that I "threatened another commenter" to "gang up" on them).

Somebody's lying, but it ain't me. Why?

This is the 7th time I've added this to an existing comment, 4 comments with them have been removed with no reason given.
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From: MTStars Moderator
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CC violet@mtstars.com
Today at 11:12 AM

MTStars moderator has recently taken an administrative action on your post posted on Politics board:

ACTION BY MODERATOR: Message Removed/Deleted

REASON BY MODERATOR: Nobody impersonated you. Stop telling posters you are going to have other people gang up on them. There is no "intellectual property" here.

POST SUBJECT: If you PS my comment again as if you are are the author, I will report it as impersonation posted on: 2015-05-09

Additionally, it's very clear that a Ben Carson fan/Tea Party member is responsible. Not the best ad campaign that Tea Party members like Ben Carson and followers are honest/aren't pathologic liars themselves.

Please 'Reply' to this mail, If you have questions/comments/concerns regarding moderator action.

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Mama as a racial slur? you people are insane. - Mama (I call my mother Mama)

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nm

Michelle Obama is your mama? Oh. Kiss her with that mouth? If not, perhaps this means - you're talking to your mom who comments here

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Otherwise, I'm not sure why "mama" would be used as moniker in this thread, but it could be construed as racist.

Btw, I couldn't help noticing my speculation on it being primarily being men who had this viewpoint about her speech yesterday than women was completely ignored.

Construe it as whatever you like. - Mama

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nm

Reading comprehension problem, I see. - Sad, sad.

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NM

If Michelle isn't the commenter's mom & their mom doesn't comment here, then the - reason "Mama" is their moniker is?

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Psst. The only way to dig out of this being construed as anything other than racially motivated should appear below my comment.

Tick tock....

Here you go sweetums. I CHOSE it as my moniker with - Mother's day fresh on my mind.

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nm

Totally understandable. As a mom myself & Mother's Day on my mind too, my next thought woul - naturally be slamming other mother, Michelle Obama

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not.

Being the subject of a post and choosing a moniker - are 2 entirely different things. (sm)

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I slam Obama everyday and don't make Barack my moniker. LOL

Baby Mama is a racial slur - nm

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xx

All the celebrities use it. People Magazine uses it. - They think it's cool.

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nm

Yeah, that's a good moral compass--celebrities - and People?

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xx

Most celebrities and dems have no moral compass. - Moot point.

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NM

HAHA - bingo

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nm

You're right--Nugent, Chuck Norris, the - Robertsons--flagship Republicans

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they ARE the moral compass of the Republicans.

Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent are nothing alike, - My Old Puppy Max

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and Republican personalities range from 1 to 10 just like Democrats.

The celebrities don't use it. The scummy "rag- - mags" use it, & they have no scruples.

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nm

These racists, especially Obamas, look to spread - there racist all over...Prove in saying "Mama

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is racist. If these people had any idea how stupid they look at crying racism at every turn, where there is none, would probably shut up. Naaahhh...they don't seem to be able to distinguish true racism, like the Obamas, from manufactured racism like there insane comments.

Those that squawk the loudest about their talk - being labeled racist usually are.

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"You people"? - I think that makes the point.

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If you haven't walked in someone else's shoes - burtthecat

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it's impossible to know what that person has experienced and is still experiencing. How would you like to have a Ph.D. and still be followed when you shop in a department store or have to endure both covert and overt racial slurs your entire life? There are more examples of ongoing racism than I can possibly list here on this board where, by the way, racism is so obscenely obvious.

You're quite right - your racism is quite apparent on this - board.

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nm

If there is anyone on this board who is NOT racist, - that would be Burtthecat.

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And BTW, it's just too easy to see right through the above attempt to get a non-racist point of view removed simply because it doesn't agree with what is obviously the majority here.

that's just really unfair - nm

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... - katem

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This entire thread needs to be taken down. Absolutely horrific comments from BOTH sides!

I disagree, not all are horrific. The natural consequence of racism is - social disapproval, not banning/removing

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This post AND the next clearly have racist innuendos. Since nothing was done about the first, those who are clearly protecting racist in this first thread are pushing the boundaries by writing a second and now even coming after the commenter I'm replying to within it.

If people have to handle racism on their own, they will, and different people confront it differently. There is not "right way" to handle clear, belligerent and blatant racism pretending it's not being racist.

The important thing is it's confronted and made clear the social consequence for racism is social disapproval NOT being forced to be removed/banned.

Because removing/banning racists just makes racists more resentful and claim THEIR private civil rights are being discriminated against.

I agree it should be discussed and brought to - light so people begin to understand themselves

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I am certain that will be turned inside out by those that have no insight.

I've been hearing this my whole life, and yet nothing - has changed, it's only

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gotten worse.

Sad interpretation of an enlightening speech - Extremely appropriate for the time

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These comments exhibit how little is understood about race relations and discrimination in this country.

I think they understand discrimination and racism - perfectly well, but choose to

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pretend they don't see it, because allowing discrimination to continue makes some sad people feel superior to those being discriminated against.

She is not the first "first lady" - who is questioned.

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I wonder what questions Nancy Reagan was asked - after all, she was a former actress, divorced, etc. I'm sure she was asked questions....Hilary was asked about Whitewater - there was a first lady that was an alcoholic - why is Michelle so sensitive? She will be asked questions no matter what because she is the first lady - if she doesn't like it, she should have stayed out of the white house. But it's always about race to her.....

Obamas see nothing but race. - smellythecat

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The language keeps changing and it keeps - Old Puppy Max

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people so confused that they can’t argue effectively.

The new buzzword is "microaggression" or perhaps "cryptofascism."

White Fragility - see link

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This applies to this board and everywhere else, every day.

http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/white-fragility-why-its-so-hard-to-talk-to-white-people-about-racism-twlm/

thanks for posting - nm

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The media treat her like an iconic figure. Sarah - Palin got dragged through the

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mud by the media/left coalition her children were vilified and her church was burned down.

That's because she is an uneducated, right - wing fruitcake

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and there is another out of wedlock little Palin on the way!

Sarah never belonged in national politics. Somebody really made a mistake when they dug that one up and they have been fighting to put that genie back in the bottle ever since! Having promoted her as Vice-President was one of the more damaging things the Republicans have done. They had beaten back their crazies pretty well before that, but things got a little confusing when it came in the form of a woman that became sanctioned as a Republican candidate.

Palin was an idiot who didn't deserve the office - of dogcatcher, let alone Vice Pres.

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If her children were "vilified", it's most likely because she set them up for it. As for her church, maybe someone up in Alaska decided that religion, especially religion in politics, isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Reverse discrimination - Dufus

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Racism is thru the roof in Amerika now because of NObama. He was involved in several incidents where he should have kept his mouth shut -- proving he's a racist and fueling the fire. White liberals also fuel the fire by pandering to him and other blacks. I rarely hear whites mentioning a person's race, unless it's a liberal, yet blacks do constantly. Racism will never die until they stop mentioning a person's race.

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