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Okay, WHO will be the next big GOP leader both
Posted: Dec 22, 2012
Right now apparently, from the talk about such a thing, a third party is looking pretty good to a lot of conservatives. A party known for, and powerful through, its discipline and willingness to fall in line behind its leaders has become anything but. The inability to come together behind Boehner isn't due to his incompetence--it's structural.
Will Rogers' saying, "I belong to no organized party. I am a Democrat." is now true for the Republicans. Mainstream John Boehner is now seen as to the left of much of his own causus, which is angry and rebellious and will not respect him as their leader. The Tea Party is an insurgent party, and to them the entire current GOP leadership is a rejected authority.
Those who've read about the "authoritiarian follower" personality type no doubt remember also that it is very strongly represented among the tea partiers in Congress. They need a leader and don't have one--yet. AFs may follow their leader unconditionally once they commit, but they do first choose that leader. Will they be wooed back into line, will the speakership pass to to a new person acceptable to them, or will it limp along with a speaker who cannot control his party enough to pass anything?
Must/will mainstream Republicans cave to people who'd burn the barn before they'd let a neighbor they didn't like shelter his horses there?
Any ideas about who could end up pushing to the top? At this point, the only person who comes to my clueless mind is Paul Ryan, but I'm not exactly a GOP insider. Below, just for whatever, is a little history of the Tea Party up to today from the New York Times.
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Okay, WHO - nobody in this decade - Hubby of gorgeous MT
[ In Reply To ..]You already answered it. Mainstream Repubs will never follow anyone the nitwits can stomach.
Apropos of nothing - grits
[ In Reply To ..]I like your user name. :)
I do not believe there is such a GOP leader - sm
[ In Reply To ..]nor do I think finding one is possible. The difference between mainstream conservatives and the tea party makes it hard to imagine how one candidate could assuage both factions. The tea party is fringe, and the GOP should stop trying to represent their interests.
NJ's Gov Christie? - Just tossing in a name.
[ In Reply To ..]There was a lot of talk of the GOP supporters wanting him to run during the campaign. I do not really know that much about him since I am on the west coast and a democrat, but he seemed to have a pretty strong following.
But, he wouldn't win because of his weight - backwards typist
[ In Reply To ..]He couldn't care about his weight but the opposite is true of the people that hate him. They tried ripping him apart during this election because of his weight and because he tells it like it is, but he has turned around the state of NJ and a lot of people like him.
He's the governor of NJ, not in Congress, and right now is only concentrating on his state.
I'm mostly thinking the House. He throws that weight around - as governor. Could he rule the House? nm
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Delay, a ruthless thug, lead with a corrupting but iron fist. - Gingrich, a dingdong, rose from the crowd to
[ In Reply To ..]control the House both brilliantly and terribly ineptly until he was deposed after a major failure following a string of problems. He's been living off the remains of this only real success ever since, and Delay is spending these days trying to delay starting his prison term.
Point is, though, these very ungreat but talented men rose themselves from the crowd in the House to take charge. Anyone in that crowd today who might take advantage of a power vacuum to rocket himself to power?
Ryan comes to mind because he's one of the few in the crowd I've heard of. He's spent his entire adult life in government, yet has no legislative achievements at all, but look what he's done for himself so far. He made a name among the hard right as an "intellectual" with several versions of an extreme joke of an economic plan, and he made so many mistakes on the campaign trail that he was hidden away from camera, yet somehow he's come out of all that as one of the most prominent up-comers in the House. So he definitely seems to have Gingrich's and Delay's talent for self-aggrandizement, and is a social and economic extremist who's been able to talk moderation without the tea partiers setting his hair on fire. He is also a bit of a dingdong, and I don't see the kind of amoral ruthlessness that made Gingrich and Delay such strong leaders, but that's not the only way to be a strong leader--if he has the ability.
How about Eric Cantor? - backwards typist
[ In Reply To ..]He is in the background a lot, but he has done a lot of research and given a lot of suggestions on cutting the debt. Came up with some good ideas, too but, as usual, never got beyond the House.
He occurred, of course. As a pretty strong conservative, do you think - he has what it takes to bring everyone in line? nm
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I think he leans more towards the Tea Party - sm
[ In Reply To ..]and they're causing most of the trouble. Cantor's one of the scary ones, IMHO.
*crickets* - NM
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It will likely be someone - Hispanic, female or
[ In Reply To ..]both so they can prove how "relevant" they are. Unfortunately for them, it's their ideology they have to change, not the person representing them. I would love to see Mayor Bloomberg get nominated for national office, but doubt it will ever happen.
Bobby Jindal is going at it hammer-and-tongs. - grits
[ In Reply To ..]He hit the ground running just after the election with his "party of stupid" comments. He is a hypocrite.
In other news, water is wet and this evening, the sun is expected to set in the west.
That type of attempt to influence the tea partiers - just blew up in their faces this week. nm
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