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OccupyDC using kids as human shields

Posted: Nov 5, 2011

Using children to fight your cause is pretty disgusting. Grow up. Leave the children out of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbnMfFCQX14

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The only human shield I see is a parent trying to protect a child - from the police.

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In the opening frames which are a bit obscured, I see 2 or 3 police (identifiable by the patches on their jackets) bending over a child who appears to have fallen on the ground. Between 0:07 and 0:15, we see the police stand up, then bend back over the child as a couple of protestors (one of whom appears to be the mom, a short-haired woman) try to approach the child to help her up. Clearly, this woman had only been a few steps behind her child. The reason I believe that is her mom is because notably, as soon as she bent down to comfort the child, she stopped crying. At 0:20 we clearly see a policeman to the left grab her as she was kneeling by the child and pull her back by her jacket and purse strap while another policeman to her right is closing in. A male voice then shouts out, “Stop moving our children” or “Stop holding our children.”

The police then proceed to pull her back forcefully away from the child as a male voice in the background cries out, ”Hey, let them go!” and the crowd is saying “Whoa! Whoa!” Then we hear the woman get hysterical, more than likely on account of being manhandled by the police, repeatedly screaming, “Let her go! Let her go!” as she tries to get her child away from the police, who by now are trying to remove her FROM HER OWN MOTHER (at least, that’s the way it appears). Meanwhile, another person between the woman and police is seen trying to shield the child from the police, who continue to rough up the woman. At 0:43, we then see the cops push that guy out of the way so they can more directly confront the woman. At 0:48, we see the police are trying to keep the her away from the child (who is no longer crying), who is being held by a man in his lap while sitting on the ground, trying to shield her head from the policeman’s aggressive gesturing toward the woman.

Another guy, who appears to know the woman, is seen trying to physically remove the child from all the commotion (“Get this baby out!”), while the policeman is placing a bear hug hold on yet another protestor. At 1:00, as the guy who is trying to remove the child is trying to step back, unbelievably, the big bad tough cop man slings the other protestor he had in the bear hug hold against him....within 5 feet of the child….causing them both to fall to the ground (after which they help each other up)…thankfully away from the little girl, who at around 1:05, appears to be perfectly comfortable with the protestors who are trying to help her get away from the policemen. At one point, the child shouted something at the police, probably because she didn't appreciate the way they were treating HER MOM.

The guy who had been pushed away managed to get back in and put the child in the carrier, then succeeded in removing her from between the mom and police, as they continued their aggression. Shortly thereafer, the cops beat a hasty retreat once the child had been safely retrieved from the confrontation and returned to her parents and their friends.

My conclusion is a bit different than yours. Call me crazy, but I think kids belong with their parents and I also think the cops obviously over-reacted, created a problem where there was none, lost their cool, then escalated the situation, which they couldn’t have handled more badly if their lives depended on it. To be sure, they had NO BUSINESS WHATSOEVER manhandling the little girl.

Please spew your hatred elsewhere, - o narrow-minded one.

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Truth hurts does it not? - sm

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Hatred is your name, deflection is your game.

If you don't like the video pointing out the stupidity on the part of these protesters using their own children to block a door, tough. You leftists are very sick individuals.

Bottom line, taking children to an Occupy Anywhere with a propensity for violence is an act of cowardice, selfishness and ignorance.

What are you talking about? - Did you bother to watch the video?

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The police were the ones doing the blocking while trying to wrestle the child away from its own mother. They got between her and the mom. She ran a few steps ahead of her mother, fell down and started crying. If they had been doing their jobs, they would have PROTECTED the child and would not have accosted the mom when she was trying to comfort her child. Instead, they instigated an unnecessary confrontation (when they yanked the mom's jacket and purse strap and pulled her away from the kid) and created an unsafe environment in the child's immediate vicinity. Your so-called "violence" was their doing. Give me a break.

Bottom line: Those who sit isolated in their homes and - pass judgement on people who are -(sm)- Pro-Occupy

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trying to make a difference, and a change for the better, DON'T MATTER. They're non-players/non-participaters in this country, and are just the takers. They can spew lies, hate, bigotry and selfishness, but in the end, they are not going to matter, because they will be in the minority. They will also be giving up a rare opportunity to actually have a say in what happens in this country. They THINK that by voting they have a say, but in reality they do not. Their vote is cancelled out, and their say is censored by Big Corporate Money.

That little street party we started back in the 60s - where the children of flower power gathered

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to share their hopes, visions, dreams, aspirations and ideas was ignored, ridiculed, marginalized, disparged and despised by those very same folks who used those very same tactics. Still we managed to elaborate, expand, evolve and persevere for a decade or two. We rocked our world and changed the face of America forever. I can assure you, the change has been much for the better, particularly in terms of civil/minority/human rights and painting a new face on the war monster by exposing its utter futility and the true nature of the men behind the curtain who orchestrate the mayhem. I'm still exceedingly proud of what we accomplished, some 40+ years hence.

OWS reminds me of those times and their movement has renewed my faith in this country, which has waxed and waned back and forth between the 1980s and now. Many of the issues are much the same as they were then, some have been resolved or at least are not as pressing as they once were, and others are ones we never could have imagined back then would ever come to pass, but still, here we are. I am particularly impressed with the youth in the movement, who have had to summon every ounce of courage they can muster against great odds to take their stand and raise their voices. It isn't easy, to be sure, but I for one will be standing behind them every step of the way. It's a long road to travel, and this time, it's not as much about the journey as it is about the destination. As I recall the moment we came to that same crossroads so long go...and it really does seem like another lifetime....one of the songs of the day plays over and over in my mind...For What It's Worth (Something Happening Here).

You are right. The armchair critics don't matter. If the change doesn't come one way, it will come another. It's all the same in the end.

Amen to that. Protests gave women the vote. And - workers the right to unionize. - sm

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It gave African-Americans the vote as well, not to mention their freedom from slavery, or their right to use a public drinking fountain, or not to have to move to the back of the bus.

When Americans are quiet and complacent, they stand to lose rights they fought so hard to achieve.

America now wants us to do what Corporate America wants: To sit down, shut up, and keep on working. For THEM.

You've obviously never been there or seen it firsthand. - BTW, Occupy is NOT just "leftists". -(sm

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It's a cross-section of the entire middle class. When I attended a protest in SF recently, I talked to a lot of people, and there were as many right-wingers out there as there were left-wingers. The only difference in the right-wing that has been supportive of the movement is that they are NOT the 1% elite (obviously), and they are also not the rabid right-wing radicals that account for so much of what we hear about them on the news. Yes, the news ALSO gets it wrong about the right-wing, as well. A few bad apples in that group would have you thinking they all think that way, but they don't. Just like most leftward-leaning people are not hippies or socialists.

The one main factor that has drawn all these diverse people together it that they know that unless something radically changes in our current US business and government models, the US as we have known it in the past will cease to exist altogether. The current money-drain of the middle class and poor to the obscenely-wealthy is not sustainable, and it's nearly at a breaking point now. Even peole who THINK they're pretty well-off now, need to take a good long look at past trends, realistic economics and corporate lobbying, and ask themselves where they think they're going to be in 10 or 20 years. If the current rape of the middle class continues unabated, the future is not rosy at all, for anyone. That includes the well-to-do. The only ones excluded would be the 1%, but if the entire rest of the country gets pushed to the breaking point, the future doesn't look very promising for the 1%, either. The whole system is imploding, and those who don't want to just lie down and take it want to see not destruction, but RECONSTRUCTION.

The leftist nutcases have ruined Occupy. I gave up on it. nm - =-=

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Occupy probably has a few "leftist nutcases", but then - look at the TP! ALL rightist nutcases!

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I much prefer Occupy's intelligence-to-nutcase ratio.

Occupy protesters have become a joke. Uncivilized - animals... go home! nm

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The "animals" you speak of were the POLICE. - They used the child as a pawn.

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What IS a joke is ignorance. Ignorance is contagious. Please don't spread it.

Using children to fight your cause - is pretty disgusting....

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Grow up. Leave the children out of it.

Home-schooled in Pre-K anti-Marxism.

Pay for what, that adorable pinafore?

Clever "Got Milk?" overkill. Wonder if the towhead can explain what govt, liberty, or taxes are? If they had their way, we all would have stair-step families by whelping year after year. At this rate, this mom will probably reach an even dozen by the time she's 40.

A young girl in Baton Rouge LA does not need Obama's stimulus package and asks that he not "steal" her future. Wonder how long it will take her to realize that presidents don't steal from kids?

When did the dems decide to tax the wheels of this kid's skateboard? Must have missed it.

Can she even say wep-pwe-zen-tay-shun?

Taking a breather after a long hot day of demonstratin'. The little girl seems to have her parties confused. Doing away with school lunches sounds more like a GOP initiative to me.

Ask him how futures get "spent, then watch him roll his eyes at the ceiling and call for help from mommy and daddy.

Republicans and Democrats aren't really people. Nice.

If he really had a choice in the matter of who gets time outs, bet he'd much rather see his parents stand in the corner next time he gets put down for his nap instead of being allowed to watch his favorite cartoon show.

Hey, kid. Define compliance. Hint: It's kinda sorta like what you had to do when your parents asked you to carry this dumb sign.

Yeah, vote libertarian, decade after next.

Raise your hands if you think these kids would choose to die the next time their folks won't let them go out to play before their chorses are done.

Thank God the ones with the hats are too young to understand the meaning of teabagger. They probably think they're part of some huge joke. Kids are often smarter than we adults give them credit for.

Too sadly absurd to merit further comment.

Maybe they couldn't afford a babysitter. And why - "leave children out"? They are - sm

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a large part of the reason people are fed up and can't take much more of American "trickle-down" economics. Most of the people taking part in protests and brainstorming sessions regarding the economy have children, and are gradually losing their ability to provide for them, pay for their healthcare, or educate them.

If they could not afford it, they should have stayed HOME - and kept the children safe...what ignorance.nm

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Yeah, it would be just TERRIBLE to have children - witness democracy in action firsthand.

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You just never know WHAT nasty "commie" ideas they might get drummed into their impressionable little heads. Yikes - they might even come to prefer HONESTY and DECENCY over greed! Ugh!

Speaking of healthcare, Obamacare is worsening this - nm

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This wasn't a discussion about Obama. But since - you brought it up, the problem is - sm

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NOT just one man. He has very little power, thanks to a whole Congress full of rabid, drooling "nutcases", if you will.

But then again, the power isn't theirs, either. They're just corporate puppets. Money talks, and the CEOs pull their strings.

OWS doesn't just want Obama out. We want the whole kit and caboodle out, regardless of party affiliations. We need a clean slate in our government, free of corporate control.

These photos show what using your kids to get your message out - really looks like.

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The video of police harrassment of mother and child, not so much. The glaring hypocrisy of the OP's original statement conveyed in these pics cannot be buried under drive-bys and Obama health care bait and switches.

That's ridiculous. "Shield", my eye; she was just in - the wrong place when the po-po wanted a fight.

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She didn't use the child as a "shield" -the police used the child as a way of inflaming the situation. Shame on them.

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