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More stimulus dollars at work

Posted: Oct 8, 2010

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101008/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_stimulus_checks_dead_people

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What's that you say? - Get real?

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Most of the inmates, it turns out, were eligible to get the payments because they were newly incarcerated and had been receiving Social Security before they were locked up. Many of the payments to dead people were sent because the death was recent, and the Social Security office was not informed of the death in time. 0.1% error in a program that itself composed only 1.6 percent of the stimulus. What does this mean: It is not a big deal, nor a big story, so Get Real!

Oh, goody.. I feel so much better now, NOT.nm - mtt22

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I feel better too. Another phoney wingnut controversy - bites the dust. nm

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There is no wingnut controversy. The STIMUBUST didnt work - Which is why many dems will lose this Nov.nm

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She declared, using wingnut buzz words and - her crystal ball. nm

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Nope, just looking at polls, opinions, and facts of Obama - THE DISASTER THAT HE IS.nm

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Keep your polls and opinions and remember what - Clint Eastwood had to say

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about opinions. Please post links to these facts you claim to be looking at so we can try to take this exchange beyond the high-school sophomore level.

Obama is no Clint Eastwood. Too bad. nm - LOL !

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Yeah, and thats just the tip of the iceberg. There is - the money spent on a "bar study", for example?

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This administration is a sad joke.

How about a for instance? A such as? Got a link - to anything specific, or

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is this just another drive-by shooting blanks AGAIN?

Sure, here ya go... there are plenty of these jokes - of spending our money, but guess

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it doesnt matter to you.

http://marathonpundit.blogspot.com/2010/02/stimulus-waste-15-notable-sinkholes.html

Thanks for the opportunity to post this again. - sm

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Dead folks dont cash checks or notify the post office of an address change.

Just because less than half the checks issued to deceased persons were not recovered, does not mean the checks were cashed or money lost from the treasury, huh? It means the paper the checks were written on is missing, not the funds.

Prison inmates, like the unemployed, are prone to spend money they (according to the article) qualified for in the commissary almost immediately, which provides all sorts of dollar-store type items, such as razors, soap, shampoo, Tampax, cotton, OTC pain relief preparations, first aid items, shaving and medicinal creams, toothbrushes, toothpaste, pens, pencils, stamps, coloring pencils and other art supplies, pencil sharpeners, paper, notebooks, greeting cards, decks of cards, batteries, headphones, T-shirts, boxers, socks, shoes, deodorant, plastic spoons, plastic bowls, coffee, cocoa, creamer, tea, sweetener, sodas, drink mixes, tuna-fish, Ramen Noodles, dried beans, canned jalapeno peppers, tortillas, chips, processed cheeses and meats, peanut butter, jelly, assorted cookies, crackers, canned meat, all sots of sweet convenience-store junk foods, nuts, candy bars, dips, mayo, mustard, salt and pepper. I hear fans are a hot item since there is no AC.

They don't cultivate these items in the prison garden. They actually ship them down the supply chain from the private sector. I trust I do not have to point out what a booming business the prison-industrial complex is in the US, but just in case you have overlooked this reality, it does not outsource its supply chain to any significant degree, helps keep American workers employed and entire towns from going bankrupt.

Lets crunch some numbers, shall we? The 18 million that went to the deceased represents around one-tenth of 1% (0.1384615 percent, to be exact) of the 13 billion dispersed. Since they recovered roughly half of those checks, that would mean that what remains missing is around 7/100ths of 1% (or exactly 0.00692307 percent) of the total dispersal. I think you can see where I am going with this, but allow me to point out that the $4.3 million received by prisoners who qualified for stimulus checks and who rarely leave more than a few dollars in their commissary accounts represents exactly 0.0330769 percent of the $13 billion dispersed.

So lets add the two miniscule percentage numbers (excluding, of course, the portion of checks they DID recover, resulting in no wasted stimulus funds) together to see that margin of error GOP Senator Tom Coburn so vociferously protests. Well, will ya look at that. Turns out to be 0.03999997 of 1 percent, the majority of which is that ethereal vapor paper still floating around in the cosmos but not being spent. Question: What private business can you cite that runs this kind of infinitismal margin of error?

The FACT(S) that the missing checks have not actually been negotiated (resulting in no missing FUNDS) and that the qualifying inmate funds actually ARE acconted for, makes Mr. Coburn the MIS-leader of the week. But we have learned to expect nothing less from the stimulus detractors. After all, he would have looked pretty ridiculous trying to make an issue over the cost of the postage.

So are you FOR government transparency or AGAINST it? This article and the study it describes is a perfect example of exactly that, whether you are able to see that or not. Thank you so much for posting that long awaited link. Just look how far a little context can go toward deflating overblown bogus claims.

Sure wish some living people would have gotten it - Backwards Typist

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I know a few people, hubby and I included, who didn't get a single penny. Don't know why, but at least we won't have to pay taxes on it.

Same here. I know lots of people who could have used it, - What a shame.

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yet millions were spent on "studies" ?? Really, no sense, which I guess is why it has failed so dramatically.

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