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A lesson in pub logic...cut 25 dollar federal stimulus UI benefit pay
Posted: Jun 17, 2010
jobless unemployment benefit recipients, requiring ALL 9.8 million of them to pee on demand before their checks can be released. UI checks are released twice monthly, so I wonder if we will be required to test more often than ex-cons on parole. But they don't want to stop there. They also are suggesting to extend this requirement to include the 4.4 million families receiving TANF and any and all of the other millions of Americans on social assistance and subject them to mandatory drug testing as well. BTW, the pubs are also considering subjecting a couple of more subclasses of Americans to the same requirements: Student athletes and kids who participate in extracurricular activities at school. How does scrapping benefits to pay for drug testing bring down the deficit? Huh?
This on the heels of Pub John Linder's blather about jobless Americans succumbing to the "allure" of unemployment benefits and living high on the hog while receiving checks that represent on average ONE-THIRD of their normal income. I suppose they think that is good enough reason to eliminate the $25 weekly federal stimulus subsidy ($100 bucks a month) , funded by monies already set aside for such purpose, from future unemployment checks.
Reality check: My UI benefit currently is a whopping $300 a week plus the $25 subsidy, for a total of $650 every 2 weeks. Out of each check, I pay $66 for income tax, giving a net amount of $584 every 2 weeks, or $1168 a month. BTW, I have worked since age 15, or 46 years, give or take a couple of 3-month time-outs to have my kids, so I figure I am still bankrolling my own benefits at this point. Anyway, subtract $100 when the federal subsidy is eliminated, and that comes to $1068 monthly. My monthy living expenses come to around $750 before groceries, gas and medicine. Contrary to popular belief, I do not qualify for Medicaid and am still too young for Medicare.
Without the $100 subsidy, either the groceries, gas or medicine will have to go. Which one do you suggest I do without? I'm guessing it should be the drugs...just to be on the safe side. Once they start drug testing, they may mistake my antidepressants and anxiolytics for addiction, cut me from the rolls and put me on a waiting list for a non-existent, non-funded bed in rehab, that is if I don't stroke out first in the absence of my blood pressure meds or have a cardiac arrest after going without the heart meds.
In case you are wondering, in my 30 weeks of unemployment, I have submitted around 370 resumes, well above the required 3 resumes weekly, despite the fact that it is very difficult to even find listings to apply for during some weeks. With an average of 6-10 applicants (sometimes many more) per job opening in my geographic area, what do you think the odds are of a 61-year-old being top pick? Anyone care to take a wager on that one?
Can anyone explain to me what's up with this casual dismissal, stonewalling and open hostility toward jobless Americans? Please, please, please do not take me down the deficit spending primrose lane. If that were the case, there are plenty of other places they could consider for cutbacks instead of the one that not only benefits the unemployed and their families, but also historically has proven to be an effective economic stimlus. I just hope the other senators will deny Hatch's under the table grab for PhRMA's little piece of kickback candy, but I wont be holding my breath on that.
No shortage of sources. Take your pick:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/06/how_many_urine_samples_can_a_s.html
http://www.usmoneytalk.com/finance/unemployment-extensionreid-backs-up-and-the-rest-are-fickle-906/
http://washingtonindependent.com/87168/orrin-hatch-lets-drug-test-unemployment-insurance-recipients
http://www.sltrib.com/D=g/ci_15304078
and so on and so on....
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I guess it stems from - sm
[ In Reply To ..]hard working Americans like myself and my husband who work for a living to support our family, receive no gov't assistance, and live a drug free life while certain people in our country are receiving disability checks and welfare and using that money to support their drug and alcohol habits. I'm tired of it! We are not helping those people. We are enabling them and if many of them don't qualify for gov't assistance because they test positive for drugs....surely there has got to be some money saved somewhere from that.
Huh? Which certain people would those be? - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Just what percentage of the 9.8 million unemployed Americans trying to weather a deep recession economy marked by record-breaking job loses we have not seen since the 1930s do you believe are slackers and welfare frauds supporting drug and alcohol habits? What are they to you? A collective of collateral damage and riff-raff you can so smugly dismiss just because you and your husband have managed to hang onto your jobs? Some of us have not been so lucky.
Forty-six years not hard working enough for you? You honestly think displaced workers deserve to be treated like common criminals? How about those school athletes and kids enrolled in extracurricular activities? For TANF families, do we only test the parents, or do we also presume their "at risk" children should pee in a cup before they can eat? What's the cut-off age for that category? Would you be willing to draw that line at, say, the toddler age level?
What kind of twisted mind set can support the notion of converting rent and food money that is pumped directly back into the sagging economy into costly, ill-conceived drug testing programs that strip the vast majority of honest and hard-working Americans who have lost their jobs of their protection against unreasonable search and seizure for the sake of the very small percentage who abuse the system? You had better pray the day never comes when you find youself on the other side of the fence widowed, divorced, ill, laid up after an accident, cancelled from insurance over a pre-existing condition, disabled and/or unemployed.
Should the odds turn against you, as they have a way of doing with all of us at least once in our lives, pray some more that your kids are grown and out of the house so they won't see you trying to figure out how to keep the roof over their heads, food on their table and the wolves at bay, who would presume to tell them their mom is a lazy, lying, raging alcoholic druggie who deserves to starve and go homeless.
wow, feel better? - sm
[ In Reply To ..]I can see both sides of this. Something definitely needs to be done regarding the abuse that our system has taken for years and will continue to take for years.
Of course not everyone on unemployment or welfare is to blame, but that still doesn't change the problems that exist in this country regarding payouts and handouts of all kinds.
Fraud and abuse is rampant in the welfare system. If you refuse to believe it, then you are very naive.
Rampant? Really? Would you mind - sm
[ In Reply To ..]backing that up with a smidge of data? Better still, could you please put the pompous on pause long enough to address the issue directly?
Do you or do you not think drug testing 9.8 unemployed Americans, 4.4 million TANF family recipients, school athletes, kids in after hours extracurricular programs, and millions of others receiving (how did you put it?) "payouts and handouts of all kinds" is an economically viable, feasible, sound-minded approach to moving JOBS CREATION, tax extender, doc fix, urgent unemployment and COBRA extension legislation through the morasse of stonewalling and filibustering foot-dragging stunts the repugs have the utter gall to engage in after procrastinating over the duration of a 10-day Memorial Day recess, followed by another 4-day weekend just 4 short days into the new session? Yes or no?
There has to be a better way - Ellis says it Best
[ In Reply To ..]Kill the welfare state, Part 2
Posted by Ellis Washington May 1, 2010
Ellis Washington
"Some people felt literally the bigger the mess we could make the better. That is whatever it cost, whatever destructive activity we could do against the U.S. government the better."
–Bill Ayers (President Obama’s Leon Trotsky)
In my last column, I gave a historical overview of how the welfare state was purposely and systematically entrenched into American law, culture and society by the Progressive Movement, the Democratic Party and by liberal pressure groups that hate America, via FDR’s “New Deal” programs of the 1930s and ’40s and LBJ’s “Great Society” programs of the 1960s.
The second part of this article series will examine another aspect of this multi-headed hydra, citing additional history and some public-policy strategies the GOP must implement to make the death of the welfare state a major part of all future party platforms.
Rather than providing the public with a diametrical worldview opposite socialism and the welfare state, the Republican Party over the past 75 years, since FDR’s New Deal, has foolishly seemed content to tinker around the edges of this Frankenstein monster, promoting a de facto “New Deal-lite.”
Enough is enough! Republicans must kill every aspect of the welfare state and return America to being a constitutional republic once again.
Here is how America can kill Obama’s fascist policies, which are designed to become FDR’s welfare state, part 2. After achieving majorities in Congress this November, Republicans can immediately start defunding the big 3– welfare (Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid and TANF), Social Security and public-sector pension plans, which are bankrupting America, especially in states like California, Arizona, Illinois, Michigan, Florida and New York.
One of the many incarnations of progressivism was The Frankfurt School. This school taught that there were two types of revolution: a) political, and b) cultural. Political revolution deconstructs from the outside, while cultural revolution demolishes from within. Progressivism would turn rebellion into revolution over time. Communists and progressives saw it as a long-term project and kept their sights clearly focused on the family, education, media, sex and popular culture.
In 1922, on Lenin’s orders, a meeting of all the leading Marxist intellectuals and revolutionaries was convened in Frankfurt, Germany. Their purpose was to clarify the concept of and give credence to how the workers’ revolution would infiltrate into Europe and eventually into the U.S. In other words, how to effect a Marxist cultural revolution, kill Christianity and take over the world.
In a fine article by Timothy Matthews, “The Frankfurt School: Conspiracy to corrupt,” the author quoted from Christopher Dawson’s outstanding work, “Enquiries into Religion and Culture”:
Western civilization at the present day is passing through a crisis which is essentially different from anything that has been previously experienced. â€Â¦ Civilization is being uprooted from its foundations in nature and tradition and is being reconstituted in a new organization which is as artificial and mechanical as a modern factory.
The tactics and strategies of Frankfurt School Marxism was followed concurrently by radical and influential American progressives like Walter Lippmann, Herbert Croly, John Dewey, Margaret Sanger, Emma Goldman, Woodrow Wilson, FDR and the Democratic Party to purposely deconstruct America from a moral republic and transform this country into a servile, socialist welfare state.
Some of the extremist ideas created or exploited by the progressive movement to create this welfare state included:
1.The creation of racism offenses. (Jim Crow discrimination; President Woodrow Wilson used the State Department to purge all black people from federal government; NAACP, Al Sharpton, La Raza)
2.Continual change to create confusion. (Trotsky’s “Perpetual Revolution”; Alinsky, Ayers, Obama’s “Change We Can Believe In”)
3.The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children. (Freud; Alfred Kinsey; the 1960s Sexual Revolution; The Stonewall Riots of 1969)
4.The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority. (“Separation of church and state”)
5.Huge immigration to destroy identity. (GWB’s amnesty policies of 2006; Obama’s desire to give amnesty to 30 million illegal aliens)
6.The promotion of excessive drinking. (FDR’s repeal of Prohibition)
7.Emptying of churches. (Marx called religion “the opiate of the masses”; LBJ’s 501(c)3 churches)
8.An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime. (About 1900 Positive Law replaced Natural Law jurisprudence; Incorporation Doctrine; Living Constitution; “social justice” replaces “equal justice”)
9.Dependency on the state or state benefits. (FDR’s New Deal; LBJ’s Great Society)
10.Control and dumbing down of education and media. (Progressives’ creation of the public schools; advent of the state-controlled media)
11.Encouraging the breakdown of the family. (Progressivism, feminism, communism, no-fault divorce, countercultural revolution, gangs, drugs, abortion, pornography, pathology, etc.)
Class envy, redistribution of wealth, social justice, economic equality and compassion are the sophistic tactics socialists have exploited over the past 100 years so politicians can steal more money from the workers and transfer it to the leeches of society who refuse to work. It is the successful tactics liberals have used to acquire and wield their limitless power.
Equal justice vs. social justice; republic vs. statism; Natural Law vs. Positive Law; liberty vs. slavery – these have always been the choices of free people and free nations. Therefore, we must defeat the tyrannous welfare state of FDR, LBJ and Obama by electing bona fide conservatives to Congress who are skilled in legislating according to the original intent of the constitutional framers.
Obama’s mentor and likely author of his memoirs, the terrorist Bill Ayers, to this day brags about destroying America by any means necessary. As predicted, President Obama is quickly codifying Ayers’ terrorism megalomania into public policy, which even many liberals are beginning to see is unsustainable on every level.
America, our first step of this long arduous journey toward killing the welfare state will be retiring as many Democrats as possible in the upcoming November elections. The second step will be sending President Barack Obama and the regime packing back to Chicagoland in 2012.
To paraphrase that great British intellectual George McDonald – Out Satan [the welfare state] must go, every hair and feather!
This must mean - sm
[ In Reply To ..]that a simple yes or no to the direct question posed in the Rampant? Really? post is way beyond your grasp. When in doubt, spout. So much garbage, such little time.
It is rather reassuring though to see the insanity is alive and well on the fringe who continue to remain totally clueless about life down here on earth where folks grapple with real-world issues and expect solutions from party candidates. Reassuring in the sense that any possibility of even a single win in November will continue to elude them as long as they continue to promote this worn-out 2008 campaign rhetoric that brought them a big fat defeat last time around.
Totally clueless? Don't think so. - Backwards Typist
[ In Reply To ..]How can you expect solutions from party candidates when they are all out for themselves?
The welfare state is alive and well and will remain the #1 employer unless steps are taken to whittle it down to only those that deserve it; i.e., unforeseen illness, accidents, etc. How would you propose that be done?
Instead of insulting posters, let's hear your ideas.
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