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Teens and dating.


Posted: Jul 29, 2011

Ever get dragged into a marital explosion?  I did yesterday. The situation is that I have a 14 y/o son who is really in love with a 14 y/o girl. They met at church 6 months ago. At first, we only allowed youth activities and then slowly allowed her to come over to our house and be included in family activities. They are never allowed alone at any times although I do allow them to sit together on the couch, and I know they have kissed because my youngest son is a spy! I consider my husband and I to be very good parents and keep a close eye on things, but we feel we also have to allow our kids (we have 3 boys) the chance to have girlfriends, etc. No dating is allowed - always, always there is a parent present.

This girl's mother actually interviewed us before she agreed to anything also. She is a wonderful lady, an English teacher at the high school, an older parent like us. We were all on the same plate, I thought, but the girl's father never really had much to do with us or drove the kids anywhere. I figured he was just not all that concerned.

Well, two weeks ago, my son and his girlfriend asked if they could go to his bedroom and play Playstation. She called her mother, she agreed, and my office is next door to the bedroom so I sat up there with all doors open and everything going fine. Plus little brother going in and out of the bedroom bugging them.

So yesterday, the father called me and basically cursed me out. He found out that his little girl had been "dating" my son and been in his bedroom. OK, then the girl's mother and father came over as the dad was determined to call me a "bad" mother and basically had a huge fight in front of me with each other. The mother has not told the father anything because he apparently is a dictatorial jerk (her words). He responds constantly that he is the only parent around here. He wants his daughter to have no boyfriends, only occasional group outings, and focus only on school. How could we allow them to have the opportunity to have sex? At which point, my son breaks down, cries and yells, nothing happened, nothing happened, and I have to ask them all to leave. The girl goes home and bags her suitcase and runs to grandmas house. The mother calls me, crying, and apologizing, and saying they've had marital problems for a long time.

My son is calm now and determined though to keep seeing this girl. Sadly, she is a WONDERFUL girl, level headed, ambitious, and deeply devoted to my son. They talk, they laugh, they motivate each other in school, and have committed to the pastor to remain true to biblical principals. Holy crap! Who wouldn't want kids like this?

The father is saying I am the cause of all of this. Here, I just tend my own flock, work at home, and mind my own business, and get dragged into an unholy mess. My husband is also out to state this summer working, so I have to deal with this. After DH and I talking about it, we are going to only allow this girl to come to house if her father agrees to it. They will have to see each other at church (father doesn't attend) and call/text. They do not attend the same school. They go to after school activities at the library though once a week. My son is devastated but I am not going to go against this girl's father.

Anyway, thanks for listening. I hate dealing with this kind of stuff.

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Teens dating - Typing in a coma

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Boy.. 14. I remember those days well, and I wasn't nearly as well-behaved as these kids!

The dad sounds like he's quite protective of his daughter. But he could at least listen a little bit and understand the situation before he went off the deep end. He reminds me of my dad in those days, just crazy over-protective.

Just commiserating with you here, as I don't really see that you have much choice except to respect the dad's wishes. Sounds like you have great kids.

re: teens - imo

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Too bad this happened, and sorry your son and you had to endure this intrusion in your own home. NOW... (lol!) I am the mother of 6, all grown up now. I NEVER let them date until they were 16. I did this because I was a single mom, had too much to deal with and did not want the stress of "young love" ON TOP of everything else I had to deal with.

When kids are this young 12, 13, 14... they get so wrapped up in their "relationship" that they forget to make other friends! I always emphasized group social events, parties, but outlawed dating until that age. Even though it's young still, the level of maturity and the exposure to dating couples kind of prepared them for dating.

now, when the dating did start, and there were times that they'd come hang out at my place, there was absolutely no socializing in THE BEDROOMS! PERIOD! I did that to prevent exactly what has happened to you. I never, ever wanted a situation to be misconstrued and thrown in my face and essentially, how in the world would I defend myself to that kind of accusation?? I know people think I'm a prude, but kids today are pretty much thrown into sexual situations too early and are so mentally unprepared for relationships. Most of what they learn is from those horrible reality shows and teen flicks and that's plain old scarey!

My neighbor's daughter is 15, is very sexually active and acts as if it is just part of a date! It's nothing special or private, just something to do when you're bored, if you "like" someone or if you want to be "popular", AND all her friends, boys and girls apparently think so too! FIFTEEN!

We all have great expectations for our kids, think they're the bee's knees, but bottom like is there is a lot of social pressure on them and i'm sorry if I disagree, but 14 is too young for all this drama! I mean, your son's reaction was to CRY for gosh sakes!

I hope I didn't offend you, but this is just one mom's experience and opinions. I'm sure there are others with differences. Good luck momma. I'm sure you have a wonderful child.

The daughter's mother definitely has some - fault in this if she knew that

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her spouse was like this. She is the one who betrayed him if she knew how he felt. Now, that being said, I will give you my little story. I am 30 years old, and I too used to go to my boyfriend's room to "play" Nintendo and he to mine at my parent's house, doors open, parents checking on us. We were both good kids. I never so much as had a detention. I ended up being Valedictorian of my high school. My parents were very strict, but guess what, I was in love. I still to this very day am in love with that same person. We have been married for almost 14 years and have a 14-year-old daughter. That's right, I got pregnant at 15 years old and married at 16. It happens even to good kids, even ones that go to church. Not saying that you are wrong for letting them do things together as I think you can also smother children. I just kind of gathered that you put a lot of trust in your child, and well, they are children. Children make stupid mistakes all the time. Their minds are not completely developed at that point which is why they are not given the responsibilities of being an adult.

Fortunately, my daughter has not had a serious boyfriend yet. I barely even let her go to friend's houses. Since I am the young mother, they feel compelled to tell me things, and teen sex is extremely popular amongst middle schoolers. I have had high school boys trying to get my daughter to sneak out at night, of course they go to church with us, and of course, she snuck out. She's still a good kid, just did something stupid.

Just wanted to throw those out to you so you might have more understanding as to why the father feels this way. Not saying he's necessarily right but not wrong either.

Teens and dating - A mother

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Thank you for your posts. I have been doing alot of thinking about this, and I have come to the realization that I HAVE become complacent and trusting with the kids' behavior. In fact, I did talk to my son, and he was honest with me. There was a time that he and she were tempted. Guess where they were though? At school! They were attending a function at her school and found their way into an empty room. So anyway, it does happen, and I understand that and discussed again with my son his responsibilities to his integrity and also this girl.

I guess my main vent was that I got caught up in this family conflict. The mother basically said nothing to the Dad until other friends were joking with him about his daughter's boyfriend. Then, all hell breaks loose with a fight in my driveway.

To the poster that mentioned my son crying, well, yes, he is still 14 and genuinely distressed by this whole situation. I was crying to when they left. Sad to see parents disintegrate into yelling and name calling, and their daughter scream out, I hate you, I hate.

My DH and discussed this over the phone. Our main concern right now is not the kids' behavior but the parents. We decided home visits are going to stop, either at our house or hers. We will make every effort to let them get together at church and library. We will allow texting and calling. But I am deeply concerned about this father's emotional state and my son being around him at this point. The father is not actually a bad man or violent - he is just deeply unhappy about his daughter and of course with his wife. But that is their family issue, not mine.

It is hard to put into a post all the issues that come into play with our life and decisions, but for the most part, your comments did help me out and I appreciate it. It helped me realize that I needed to make some changes within my own parenting too.

what I think the poster meant about him crying was - just to emphasize that he was very immature still

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AND, don't you for one minute underestimate what the father is capable of. If already demonstrated a level of violence by intruding into your home and initiating a shouting match with his wife with absolutely no regard for boundaries! THAT is a level of violence. He needs to be told that he is no longer welcome on your premises and if he violates that verbal warning that you'll call the police and have a restraining order put against him. Protect your son!

Guess I'm the odd man out - daughter was responsible but active

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Both of my girls started dating at 14. Of course, dating then wasn't like when I dated, but it's what they called it. One daughter has been sexually active since about age 15 (the other didn't start until she was 21). However, because as this girl's parents found out, I can only control what happens at my house, not what happens at anyone else's. So my daughter was well aware of contraception and 7 years later, has not presented me with an "oops" grandchild.

My own 2 cents is that you didn't do anything wrong. I don't know what magic a bedroom has that a living room doesn't. Suppose they were playing Nintendo in the living room but you were in the kitchen cooking or doing laundry or in your office working. What is going to happen in that bedroom that isn't going to happen on the couch?

Some may view me as too progressive in my views on the sexuality of our young people. But if Palin can't get her kids to keep their underwear on (one of the boys knocked up his girlfriend out of wedlock), I'd say it shows that the whole abstinence thing isn't all that successful. So I've raised three kids, the youngest 21, the oldest 31, and there are no children, no miscarriages, no abortions. And that I'm proud of.

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