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Poll: Americans believe CIA torture was justified
Posted: Dec 16, 2014
About half of Americans believe that the CIA was justified in its harsh interrogation methods of "war on terror" detainees, a poll found Monday, days after a damning US report revealed harrowing details of torture.
The US Senate report released last week said the Central Intelligence Agency's interrogation of Al-Qaeda suspects, including beatings, rectal rehydration and sleep deprivation, was far more brutal than acknowledged and did not produce useful intelligence.
The findings triggered international condemnation and calls for those involved to face justice.
But 51 percent of people in the United States believe the CIA's methods were justified (29 percent said not) and 56 percent said the intelligence gathered from those methods prevented terrorist attacks, a Pew Research Center survey found.
War is not pretty, but it is easy to sit behind one's computer and criticize the military's tactics.
Link: http://news.yahoo.com/half-believe-cia-interrogation-methods-justified-poll-001931300.html
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Shameful posting in favor - of torture. PATRIOTS do not
[ In Reply To ..]SUPPORT torture.
And secondly, the heading of your post is misleading: It says AMERICANS believe CIA torture was justified when the CONTENT clearly shows that IN THIS POLL (your numbers don't add up) it does not say 100% of Americans support torture so your heading should have said SOME Americans...
And this poll only shows how short-sighted and UNINFORMED the Americans who support torture ARE!
For what WE DO in tactics will COME BACK TO OUR soldiers who are captured. Do these people NOT know why the Geneva Conventions were adopted in the FIRST PLACE?!!!
Forgive the caps - but I am astonished and sickened by Anyone condoning torture whether in a veiled manner as per posting this one poll. or outright.
I agree, not the America I grew up in - sm
[ In Reply To ..]I always thought the US "was the stand-up guy in the world" That we were setting a wonderful example for the rest of the world. "I pledge allegiance, blah, blah". I watched our heroes in the movies who always did the right thing. I picked up my trash and was courteous to all. I learned I needed to pay my taxes for the good of all and that sometimes we have to sacrifice for the good of all.
It seems now all I see now are scared unthinking people scurrying around from one fear to another. I have learned that bullying never wins friends or influences people. I knew when Bush lied to the people to send them to war, that it would not win friends. I know now that being known as a "torturer nation" will not win friends for the US.
We are NOT exceptional. I am so disappointed.
THANK you for this honest - post. PATRIOTS are honest
[ In Reply To ..]Thanks to Bush and Cheney and sick minds like theirs too many Americans have confused arrogance, barbarity and hubris with strength and leadership.
So many posting in favor are apparently UNAWARE of U.S. history with regard to foreign policy and that is upsetting enough because you can only get away with the 'we didn't know' excuse for so long...
But one thing that is really galling is this: Not one of the posters in favor of torture would tolerate for one new York second an invasion of our land under the guise of 'bringing democracy' or any other reason.
THINK!! Do you really not understand the outrage and hatred of our occupying THEIR lands with weapons that kill their people?
Please do not support imperialism!
I heard this thinking was the latest liberal teaching. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]The indoctrination has now been proven to me. Sad.
No, just the people who woke up and realized - the U.S. has been the bully
[ In Reply To ..]for a long time and killed a lot of people unnecessarily. The reason you are hearing more about it is because more people have begun to realize it and ascribe to it. The old ways of "might is right" and killing off the enemy, propping up the dictator of choice has been revealed for what it is --- bullying and dangerous to us in the end. Most of the U.S. enemies have been created by these bullying tactics and we end up fighting countries and peoples we trained and outfitted ourselves.
The origional poster is deaf to these - cogent remarks
[ In Reply To ..]and its willful because the Unbiased information is out there for patriots of all political persuasions to read.
War is an ugly thing, - ProMT
[ In Reply To ..]but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
Another veiled post in favor of your - original post
[ In Reply To ..]You can post quotes all day long - at the end of the day we will agree to disagree.
and for the record there are PLENTY of things worth fighting for. How shameful that so many Americans bought into the lies that were floated to GARNER support for just another attempt to infiltrate and pilfer.
When war is necessary. - ProMT
[ In Reply To ..]Thomas Sowell advocates hitting terror group 'with everything we've got ASAP.'
Some pundits are saying that President Obama has been floundering in his response to the ISIS crisis because public opinion polls show most Americans don’t want another war.
In all my 84 years, I cannot recall a time when most Americans wanted war. That is something we should be proud of. But wars are not always optional.
Even World War II – which some have called “the good war” – was not something most Americans wanted. But the Japanese took that decision out of our hands when they bombed Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941. And Hitler removed any possible doubt when he declared war on us shortly afterward, making sure that we were in the war all over the world.
No one has promoted the dangerous notion that war is optional more than Barack Obama. He declared peace in Iraq when he pulled American troops out, and he declared victory over al-Qaida because his administration had killed bin Laden (with an assist from the Navy SEALs). But all this make-believe has come back to haunt him, as make-believe often does.
Make no mistake about it, make-believe wins elections – and winning elections is Obama’s thing. The big problem is that the things that win elections are not the things that win wars.
With an eye on the upcoming congressional elections, Barack Obama has assured all and sundry that there will be no American “boots on the ground” in the fight against ISIS. But telling your enemy in advance what you will or will not do is not the way to win wars.
This is not rocket science, and Obama either already knows it or he has military advisers who will tell him, if he will listen. But the military have their priorities and Obama has his, even if his political priorities can end up costing far more American lives than hitting ISIS with everything we’ve got ASAP.
The longer the war drags on, through half-measures and tentative tactics, the longer ISIS has to recalibrate its strategies and to sneak its agents into the United States, to launch terrorist attacks inside the American homeland. We can either kill them over there now or have them kill Americans here later.
The longer our potential allies have to wonder whether President Obama is serious, the longer they will hold back from making full commitments, knowing how the Obama administration began by betraying existing American commitments to Poland and the Czech Republic, followed by undermining Israel’s position in the Middle East and then throwing Ukraine to the wolves when push came to shove, by refusing to let them have weapons to defend themselves.
When Winston Churchill surveyed the staggering magnitude of worldwide carnage and destruction at the end of World War II, he said that there was never a war easier to prevent than the one which had just devastated so much of the world.
He said that the earlier we would have opposed Hitler, the lower the cost would have been. At one time, according to Churchill, a memorandum could have stopped Hitler, given the balance of military power against him early on.
When Hitler stationed troops in the Rhineland in 1936, in violation of major international treaties, the military commanders in charge of those troops had orders to retreat at the first sign of French military opposition, since France alone at that point could have overwhelmed the German army as it existed then.
Although France at that point was militarily capable of stopping Hitler in his tracks, and preventing World War II, politically the French government dared not move. The French people, with the horrors of the First World War still painfully vivid in their memories, wanted no part in military operations.
The net result was that Hitler grew stronger militarily over the years and then invaded France at a time of his choosing. The French then found themselves at war, whether they wanted to be or not. And they soon found themselves defeated and subjugated under Nazi rule.
Barack Obama has done more than anyone else to promote the dangerous illusion that we can choose whether to have a war or not. But our enemies have already made that choice.
Retired Marine Corps Gen. James Mattis said: “No war is over until the enemy says it’s over. We may think it’s over, we may declare it over, but in fact, the enemy gets a vote.”
Link: http://www.wnd.com/2014/09/when-war-is-necessary/
Change the subject if you want but the discussion - was about torture NOT whether war
[ In Reply To ..]NOT whether war is ever needed.
Never said I supported torture. - ProMT
[ In Reply To ..]I merely posted the results of the poll. War is reality, not make-believe. Again, it is easy to sit in our comfy homes, not fighting on the front lines, and believing we are safe from terrorists. War is not a game; again, it is reality whether you choose to believe it or not. Let us hope and pray that there is not another attack on our soil which devastatingly affects us or others.
Thank you, ProMT. - TRUE PATRIOT
[ In Reply To ..]Your words of wisdom are welcome and helpful on this board. True patriotism rings loud and clear in the conservative hearts of this country.
You didn't have to say you supported it - you posted the poll instead
[ In Reply To ..]Propaganda takes all different shapes - in this case posting a poll which YOUR header made to read as AMERCIANS supporting same is a very transparent insidious way of manipulating perception.
PERIOD!
The manipulation of the title from "Half" and - "Interrogation"
[ In Reply To ..]to "Americans" and "Torture"
and the statement
"War is not pretty, but it is easy to sit behind one's computer and criticize the military's tactics."
Pretty much implies supporting torture.
Doesn't it make you wonder - sm
[ In Reply To ..]how they would feel if their loved one(s) died on 9/11?
Also, what do they think of the torture of the unborn?
Hypocrites.
Here we go again. Equating terrorists and - abortion-smh-nm
[ In Reply To ..]xx
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