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Poll Reveals Most Americans Don't Know They Got a Tax Cut


Posted: Feb 13, 2010

Posted by Robert Hendin

February 12, 2010 1:18 PM

Of all the very information that came out of the recent CBS News/New York Times poll, one question stuck out, that of taxes.

Here's the poll question: "In general, do you think the Obama Administration has increased taxes for most Americans, decreased taxes for most Americans or have they kept taxes the same for most Americans?"

The answer:
• 24 percent of respondents said they INCREASED taxes.
• 53 percent said they kept taxes the same
• And 12 percent said taxes were decreased.

Of people who support the grassroots, "Tea Party" movement, only 2 percent think taxes have been decreased, 46 percent say taxes are the same, and a whopping 44 percent say they believe taxes have gone up.

Those answers must frustrate the president who has highlighted its tax cuts for the middle class in almost every speech.

In his State of the Union address, President Obama said that as part of their economic recovery, his administration has passed 25 different tax cuts.

"Now, let me repeat: We cut taxes," he said. "We cut taxes for 95 percent of working families. We cut taxes for small businesses. We cut taxes for first-time homebuyers. We cut taxes for parents trying to care for their children. We cut taxes for 8 million Americans paying for college."

In his Super Bowl Sunday interview with Katie Couric, he touted the tax cuts in the stimulus package: "we put $300 billion worth of tax cuts into people's pockets so that there was demand and businesses had customers."

When CBS News' Mark Knoller asked White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs about the poll's findings today, he said simply: "I'd say they called the wrong people."

He went on: "Is it part of the frustration, of course, 95 percent of working people in this country saw their taxes cut last year, but apparently only 12 percent felt it."

Gibbs later said that many Americans may have seen any federal tax cuts offset by an increase in state taxes. "What happens at a federal level and state level, both of those are felt by individuals on the ground," he said.

He went on to say that the tax cuts were structured to achieve the biggest economic impact, namely a smaller dollar amount stretched out over a longer period of time. Gibbs said the White House economic team decided that tax cuts were better for the economy than simply a one-time check of $350 that most people would put into savings rather than spend it. Referencing the poll results, he joked that the selling of the tax cuts could have been done differently -- "obviously, the marketers got kicked out of that meeting."

If so many tax cuts were passed, why have so few Americans actually noticed them?

The remainder of the article can be found at:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/12/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6201911.shtml





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The reason people do not know about tax cut? - Do not believe him. Changing his tune

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/12/obamas-middle-class-tax-pledge-called-question/

Obama's Middle-Class Tax Pledge in Question as Deficit Challenge Looms

The Obama administration once again is stirring fears that the president may break a key campaign pledge, after he was quoted saying he is "agnostic" about raising taxes on those making less than $250,000.

The Obama administration once again is sparking speculation that the president may break a key campaign pledge, after he was quoted saying he is "agnostic" about raising taxes on those making less than $250,000.

Bloomberg BusinessWeek reported that President Obama made the comment in an interview discussing ways to rein in the soaring federal deficit.

The president's apparent inclination to keep all options on the table, though, stands in stark contrast to the string of pledges he made during the campaign to shield households making less than $250,000 from any tax.

"Let me be clear -- if you are a family making less than $250,000 a year ... you will not see your taxes go up," he said in July 2008 at a Springfield, Mo., town hall meeting -- it was a statement he repeated across the country.

So is the president abandoning his promise? The White House insists the answer is no. Aides say Obama is merely giving a deficit reduction commission he will soon establish room to maneuver.

"The president doesn't believe our economic growth ... should be predicated on raising taxes on middle-class families. But that being said, the president's just not going to get in the game of prejudging the outcome of a commission," White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Thursday when asked about the "agnostic" remark.

Even so, it sounds more and more like Obama is girding for some very tough budgetary choices ahead.

"The reality of our fiscal challenge is not subject to interpretation. Math is not partisan," Obama told reporters Tuesday during a surprise press conference.

This isn't the first the time the durability of Obama's middle-class tax promise has come into question.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and top White House economist Larry Summers stirred fears of its demise last summer. At the time, Geithner said in a Sunday-show interview that the nation would have to "do what it takes," while Summers said the country should not "rule things out no matter what." Those comments were made in discussions about how the government could control the deficit and pay for health care reform.

The budget outlook may seem even more dire now. Obama on Friday signed a law raising the debt limit to $14.3 trillion, days after sending Congress a budget with a deficit of $1.3 trillion.

Budget experts say these numbers may crush the president's middle-class pledge.

Maya McGuinness, with the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, said Obama can't take any option "off the table" as he examines the immensity of the budget-balancing challenge and realizes that every part of the budget will have to be part of the solution.

But backing off his tax pledge is a big political risk. Former President George H.W. Bush infamously declared, "Read my lips -- no new taxes," during the 1988 presidential campaign, and then raised them three years later as part of a budget deal with Democrats.

Former President Bill Clinton beat him in 1992, promising "an America in which middle-class incomes, not middle-class taxes, are going up."

One year later, Clinton raised gasoline taxes and Social Security taxes on the middle class and raised income taxes on couples earning more than $140,000.

The White House points out that Obama cut taxes for the middle class last year. The real flip-flopping, aides say, can be found with the seven Senate Republicans who co-sponsored a debt and deficit reduction commission only to recently vote against it -- forcing Obama to unilaterally create one.

All that out of one word? Fox fans need brush up on - vocab and context...as usual

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Change in tune, huh? In your dreams. I can mince words with the best of them, so best not get started on that but it's worth pointing out that the focks article substituted the word "those" not making over $250,000 for the precise statement of HOUSEHOLDS (not individuals, which was defined in the statement of under $200,000). This sets a rather high bar for "middle-class" income, to say the least.

Vocab: Agnostic. As in not prejudged. Neutral. Context: Within the time frame leading up to and including the bipartisan debates on deficit reduction and financial reform. Simply put, this means that because this is a bipartisan commission, there are no preconditions as to what can and cannot be considered and discussed. It will be approached with an open agenda, giving all participants equal opportunity to state their case.

Keep in mind that on the table is a very far cry from on the paper. Good luck in trying to whip this up into something that it is not.

Business Week, others also considered the word - to be significant

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Words do mean something and it's certainly interesting that a wordsmith like Obama would use the word "agnostic" in this context, given his prior statements, which would be contrary to the definition of that word - and yes, even the definitions you provided.

If he wishes to set the record straight regarding the questions that have come from many quarters about his choice of words, he certainly can do so. Let's see if he does. Maybe the TelePrompter was broken and he accidentally said what he really thinks instead of what he wants us to believe that he thinks. We've all had technology fail us at the wrong moment.

We'll understand.

It's not contrary to previous statements. You are - ignoring context.
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As an MT, you should know better than that.
We simply disagree - no need to be personal
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The word was, and remains, surprising - considering the context. As I said, the questions have been raised from many quarters about this, and HE (not you) can explain himself if he wishes to do so. If not, I think each of us is within our rights to come to our own conclusions.
Not personal. MTs as a group understand how crucial - context is to meaning. We do not..
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disagree on that. The fact that you have chosen to take this pseronally helps to illustrate precisely what I am trying to say.

Vocabulary and context in and of themselves are multilayered concepts, and how we choose to spin them around is how truth, misunderstanding, inaccuracies and falshoods are conveyed. Yes, it is within our rights to draw our own conclusions. It is also within our rights to argue (as in debate) the pros and cons of any one particular truth, misunderstanding, inaccuracy or falsehood created when we engage this process.

It would seem that you and I disagree on both elements of this statement. I would be willing to bet that your conclsion is being drawn by placing the statement out of its given time parameters, as the focks article is attempting to do. The Business Week article does not do this. It provides the focks construct, but also contrasts it against the circumstances and situations to which Obama was applying the statement. That's what fair and balanced reporting looks like.

He was not referring to a 2008 campaign promise. He was referring to the upcoming commission on deficit reduction, as I explained in my other post. There is nothing surprising about the fact that he is expressly leaving the venue open to ALL ideas, is not setting preconditions and is interested in having bipartisan views aired. That is the context.

Once the word is taken out of that setting and placed somewhere else, stretched, exercised, editorialized and fashioned to fit a particular ideology, the accuracy of any conclusions drawn has been displaced away from the center of the truth behind the statement. It is then subjected to all kinds of manipulation for all kinds of purposes, something focks is famous for.

Surprising word? Considering the source, not so much. Obama, as mediator in the debate process that will take place during those discussions, has chosen a perfectly appropriate position. There are 2 pages of synonyms listed in the thesaurus for agnostic, each entry containing 10-15 different examples of possible meaning. Many of those samples fit the context of the statement, such as not prejudged, open to question, uncertain, unconvinced, dubious, in need of clarification, etc.

He is casting himself as a neutral moderator. This is the best approach to bipartisanship, leaving all options open to scrutiny. It allows for both sides to state their case in ways that can inform the public on the issues at hand.

The outcome of these proceedings is not predictable (on the table versus on the paper). Therefore, focks news falling all over itself to make political hay out of one word it takes for granted can be spun in ways to suit its message (broken campaign promises) to an audience all too willing to take their words as gospel, is willfully deceptive. No surprise there.

We disagree on something else. If Obama had to stop and mince words, explain and extrapolate every time focks spins a new lair, he'd be wasting valuable time trying to convince the unconvincable. His job is to focus on the important issues at hand on behalf of those whose interests he represents, not to kowtow to the latest partisan attack masters whose sole purpose is to destroy his credibility and bring him down.

News media sponsored by corporate America - Dumbing down of America by

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using such tools as sensationalism, the bizarre and outlandish, appeal to the basest of human values (comfort and greed come to mind), order, conformity and homogeneity, prescribed morality, orientation toward entertainment, celeb fascination, sound byte mentality and, most importantly, the fear factor.

Ask yourself how much air play was given to the CONTENT of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Then ask yourself how much was given to the CONTROVERSY over the players, passage process and political implications? How much did their style of coverage contribute to division and partisanship? How much fear mongering was involved?

As of 2007, 70% of Americans were getting their news from the internet. When referencing a political topic, how much blogosphere and webosphere garbage did you have to climb over to get to a well investigated, fair analysis of an issue? How much time did that take? How many times did you revert to seeking out only those articles that supoport your own ideas? How frustrated did it make you feel?

When planning your TV viewing, how much garbage did you have to sift through to find a single relevant substantive venue for anything of importance to you?

Ultimately, the responsibility falls on the VOTER and political aficianado to seek the information from all sides, inspect the various approaches to planning goals and realizing solutions and make informed choices based on the nearest point they can find to the truth. Failing to do so only contributes to the problem and not the solution.

With the recent SCOTUS decision, look for this picture to become much worse over time. My prediction? Net neutrality will be on corporate hit lists in the near future. Let them get their hands on that, and our situation will not be that different than what the Iranians faced this past week with state-sponsored social media interruptions and shutdowns.

I think the SCOTUS decision is already "working." - Nikki

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Rupert Murdoch, has only been an American citizen since 1985 ("to satisfy legislation that only United States citizens could own American television stations. This also resulted in Murdoch losing his Australian citizenship.") He already owns Fox, Dow Jones and the Wall Street Journal (and has many more international holdings).  Sarah Palin is a Fox "product," bought and paid for, and if she runs for President as the product of Newscorp, those who vote for her may as well draw the Fox News logo on their palms.


 


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