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Obamacare: The Political Issue that Keeps On Giving

Posted: Feb 5, 2014

I'm sorry, I don't care what the libs say, this is bad and the news just keeps getting worse.;

That's because they are incapable of discerning - the nightmare that is Obamacare

This makes every other issue pale in comparison. - sm

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The scandals, the lies, the wars, race relations. I really don't have any words to say that wouldn't offend someone.

Yeah - It is

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pale compared to the the fact we have no jobs in this country thanks to the pubs. The current administration wants to take away the tax incentives for companies to take our jobs offshore and the pubs keep shooting it down. The current administration also wants to provide tax cuts to companies that keep jobs here and bring jobs back here, but pubs want no part of that. The pubs solution to the high unemployment is to starve those lazy bums who are collecting unemployment because they can't find jobs. If we had enough jobs in this country people would be working. If we were actually shipping out more than we are shipping in things would be different. I know some of you think all people are in social programs because they are lazy, but the fact is most of them are in programs because they can't find work.

Exactly. And they're also in social programs because the takers at the top refuse to pay - a living wage

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making it necessary to supplement with food stamps, etc.

Hard working people with full-time jobs should not be below the poverty level.

Democrats likely will make this a big part of their campaigns, and Republican candidates will again be on the wrong side of the issue making it a simple choice for voters.

I really feel sorry - sm

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for you and the poster above you for not seeing the clear picture of what is really happening. You are believing what you are spoonfed by the LSM. Please listen to some of the world's best economists who are nonpartison. That is where you will find the truth.

All we have to do is look at our PAYCHECKS to know the poster you're replying - to is right on.

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We working more and are more productive than ever and yet still make LESS PAY! Has nothing to do with LSM. Give me a break. It has everything to do with MTSOs squeezing MTs as hard as they can... in other words... not paying a living wage to the worker bees while the ones at the top make MORE.

I don't agree. - I have nothing to say to you.

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NM

Why - does

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that not dignify a response? Because there is nothing you can say to prove the poster is wrong. Our paychecks are getting smaller, CEOs are getting bigger. We have less and less jobs here because the pubs want to protect the rich while calling the working people lazy because we can't find jobs.

Not to mention the fact that many of us who have been MTs - Undignified poster here

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for a while find it extremely hard to switch careers due to age AND due to loans, mortgages, etc., given years ago when we were making decent money. Yeah... call us lazy for not paying off our mortgages 10 or 15 years ahead of schedule and not saving up enough so we can quit MT so we can take out more student loans to go back to school at 40+ years old, just so the CEOs can by another vaca home or, even better, invest outside the country. It makes total sense.

You're breaking my heart. The above poster is still - right on.

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There wasn't even anything wrong with my post. What kind of response do you expect to get on a board where many of us work full time and make less than we did 20 years ago, yet still produce much more than we did 20 years ago, when you tell us to stop listening to LSM? Do you think we're making this up? No. All we have to do is look at our paychecks and then take a look at what the higher ups at the MTSOs are raking in.

You could have just said that in the first place - instead of changing your post

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LOL

It is funny, huh! - So sorry for you all.

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nm

I would like - to know

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why you feel that way. Why do you think we have hundreds, or even thousands, applying for the same jobs? Why do you think CEOs have several houses while the rest of us can't even afford one. Why do you think a person working at Walmart should be given advice by the higher-ups in the company to apply for food stamps while the higher-ups are eating off gold plates? Why do you think McDonald's higher-ups gave their employees that can't afford to buy groceries the tip at Thanksgiving that they should take smaller bites because they would feel fuller on less food? Why do you think unemployment is so high? Do you think we are all lazy or do you think it might have something to do with the fact that companies get incentives to ship our jobs overseas? Why do you think I have to spend a whole day shopping to try to find things made in this country?

Here's another question to above posters? - SM

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Were you better off 1 year ago or 5 years ago?

Not surprised at no response. - The answer is most likely NO.

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Which begs the question, well, gee, why not? Aren't hope and change working out for you?

I'll answer... as far as my pay goes, it's been STAGNANT in the last - 5 years and LESS than

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what I made fresh outta school in the 1990s. Has nothing to do with hope and change, so please give me a break. It has everything to do with corporate greed and those who enable the ones at the top to either give our jobs away overseas or just squeeze us as hard as they can (or leave FT employees sitting during scheduled hours with NO WORK = NO PAY). The first time I lost my job to India was in 2006... lemme guess... still Obama's fault, right?

Sorry, I thought it was a rhetorical question, especially since it was addressed - to above nm

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Remember NAFTA? - NPC

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That was the beginning of this outsourcing/offshoring business and it has just blossomed under EVERY administration. The WSJ has an article about this...I believe from today.

I also - was not

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sure who or what your question was about. Actually work started going sour in this country since NAFTA and more go with every trade agreement we have had since then. All the trade agreements are set up to benefit the wealthy corporations and screw the Americans. We are actually in the midst of making another trade agreement and protesters are calling it NAFTA on steroids. To answer your question, our whole nation has been hurting for many years and it is not strictly Obama's fault. It is the fault of all the politicians who have been in office and allow our jobs to go overseas and do nothing to stop it.

Well - right

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back at you. I have listened to some of the world's best economists who agree with me. You can't have a strong economy with no jobs and only CEOs benefiting. I don't even need an economist to tell me that, it is all around me. Maybe it is you that should take your blinders off and look around.

They're off and the writing is on the wall. - sm

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Just in a general sense, the economy usually does better under a Republican president because they are more business and economic minded in addition to the other talents required for the job. Conservative taxing and spending is the key so as not to be one-sided. Democrats are usually for taxing and spending. Gimme more money to spend.

Economy was bad under Clinton? Economy was good under Bush? - sm

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If you'd like to show something that makes your statement factual, I'd be very interested to read it.

Who was president before Clinton? - sm

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Hint: His birthday would have been this week. The rest is all in the history books.

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