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Obama's Use of Children in signing his EOs


Posted: Jan 26, 2013

Diana West: Love this woman's columns. Her eyes are wide open to what goes on in D.C.

 

Not one of the 23 executive orders that President Obama signed -- flanked by schoolchildren whom none of us want to see murdered and before an audience that included relatives of murdered schoolchildren -- would have prevented the massacre at Sandy Hook.

 

Did the main idea of the sentence above come through -- that the president's latest orders would not have stopped the heavily armed monster who entered a Connecticut school last month and killed 20 children and six adults? Or was your brain overwhelmed by anxiety signals arising from the imagery of vulnerable youngsters?

 

The overwhelming imagery is no accident. It's emotional manipulation, and I've never seen a more lowdown exercise of it than the White House's "gun violence" event this week. What President Obama put the nation through was the propaganda equivalent of a slasher movie, a disgustingly crude attempt to jam our emotional buttons and frighten us into surrendering more of our rights to live free of centralized government surveillance and control.

 

Such pandering, of course, fails to address the cultural factors -- godlessness, fatherlessness, a pornographically violent "entertainment"-media complex -- that drive this most transgressive form of violence. Postmodern developments all, they help us see why, for example, well-armed settlers opening up the West didn't ever shoot up the village school.

 

Here's what I call "Obama's Choice": Do Americans want happy, live children or some old constitutional provision? Do members of Congress -- the president's main target along with the Constitution -- want an "'A' grade from the gun lobby," as he put it, or to give parents "peace of mind when they drop their child off for first grade"? Gazing into the shiny button-eyes of the four children on stage, America heard the president say: "If there is even one thing we can do to reduce this violence, if there's even one life that can be saved, then we've got an obligation to try."

 

Yes, yes, yes, we reply. Yes, Mr. President, go ahead and sign the executive orders that put in place what amounts to a national database of kooks as defined by federal bureaucrats who consider conservative beliefs and military personnel to be crazy automatically. Yes, empower and encourage our doctors to add to that registry innocent patients who have committed no crime but who, like returning veterans, may have sought counseling. (Meanwhile, continue to permit confidentiality laws to silence attorneys with knowledge of clients' actual criminality.) Outlaw the sale of high-powered guns and ammunition -- equalizers in the face of home invaders, terrorists, drug gangs and, yes, a democratic government turned tyrannical. And tell me again why the Department of Homeland Security -- emphasis on "homeland" -- acquired more than 1 billion rounds of ammunition (including hundreds of thousands of hollow-point bullets) last year? And why did DHS order an additional 200,000 hollow-point bullets in December? What possible domestic threat requires a stockpile like that?

 

Read the rest here. It will make you think:

http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/2378/Obamas-Kids-Stooping-to-New-Presidential-Lows.aspx

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How many times does it need to be said that - NO ONE IS TRYING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS AWAY. NM

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Ah, but they are. Look at Feinstein's list of 157 guns - Truthhurts

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and pistols she wants to ban. Hopefully, the media is telling the truth and her bill and the many following hers will never pass.

I have not seen a single bill introduced that will not tread on our rights as citizens lately.

Banning the sale of certain weapons...sm - VTMT

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does not include surrender/confiscation of weapons already owned. Did you know that? So, it is true, no one is trying to take your guns away.

Of course they are! - This is only

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step one and believe me, once this is all implemented...it will be "tweaked" to include all guns eventually, oh....except for the criminals of course. They get to keep theirs!

There is nothing to fear but fear itself. nm - Chicken Little

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You call it fear, we call it common sense. - LM
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okay, there is nothing to fear but common sense - ann other
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not Chicken Little, but I couldn't resist. ;)
That could be the Liberal Motto. Very good. - It fits too. LOLOL
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Yeah, just like when they took - our cars away. NM

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They have to start somewhere. - sm

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They'll never get away with it if they try, so they start slowly and purposefully make the laws broad, then add to them more and more until they get their way eventually. If you don't believe that you're wearing blinders and living in a dream world where politicians are saints as long as they're liberal.

Please give some specific examples - nm

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How about the free-speech zones? - sm
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Used by Bush to keep anyone who disagrees with him away from him during inaugurations and some press conferences. Now expanded by Obama to include anywhere there is a politician with secret service protection. Under the guise of keeping politicians safe from those that wish them harm, law analysts are saying its so broad and leaves so much up to interpretation by an individual secret service member that people an be arrested for almost anything in the presence of such. An example given was that someone can be enjoying lunch and a politician with a couple of secret service guards can come in. The person says "great, there goes my peaceful lunch," and they can end up arrested for that if the secret service decides its a threat. That's a perfect example of a start to taking away the first amendment, one small little law expansion at a time. Before you do the stupid liberal thing and bash me for lack of proof, I'm on my phone and can't easily get links right now, but if you can wait until the weekend is over when I'm back on my computer, I'll link. Or if anyone else has those, feel free to add them.
(and if you noticed, I don't like Bush either) - not repub or dem
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Just an independent who has a big problem with the constitution being trampled and don't at all like the far ends of each spectrum. If I thought gun control would have saved those kids, I'd be for it, but all that kid wanted was to be glorified by the media, just like all the others, and would have done anything to be infamous even if he had a gun. I used to consider myself liberal until I lived in California, which is liberal overboard, and now I see liberalism as a disease. Far right conservatism isn't much better. Just letting you know where I stand. For anyone that hates Bush (as I did), Obama is Bush on steroids, stomping his promise to undo what Bush did and instead continuing and expanding everything. He's a joke and moving us closer and closer to having ZERO rights under the guise of protecting everyone else's.
I am very happy to wait. - sm
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However, I do not see the free speech zone an issue in this sense. Gabby Gifford for instance. Also, from what I understand there have been many horrible threats to the Obamas and certainly there was a huge security fail when Bush was almost hit with a shoe, Reagan was shot and of course, the Kennedys, Wallace, King
Gabby Giffords wouldn't have been prevented by a free speech zone. - sm
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Thst would have been prevented by having her in a controlled environment. Nobody was forced to go to that event, so if you want to attend you shouldn't mind being checked by security to get in. By making it so anywhere they go you have to bow down to them and stay out of their way, it takes away the rights of he average person to be out anywhere in public without fear they might walk in the wrong place at the wrong time and get arrested. Because that's what else Obama's expansion to the law did. He made it illegal to be in a restricted area even if you don't know T's a restricted area. So, in walks Obama to a restaurant and the secret service clears the place. You're in the bathroom, come out, and get arrested because the secret service guy doesn't want to look like a dope for not checking the bathrooms, even though when you left for be bathroom the restaurant was not a restricted area and you didn't know you were returning to one. Slowly, ever so slowly, expanding laws to take our rights and trampling the constitution.
the restaurant example is out of hand - sm
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nothing in the law suggests or supports that. You can google "free speech zone" or "HR 347".
It's the examples law analysts have given. Not stuff I've come up with - on my own
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They're saying that while the law may not be MEANT for those purposes, that IS the way they are written; extremely broad. It is my personal belief that this was NOT an accident. I think when they leave laws broad and open to interpretation, they're doing it to be in their favor and to leave them able to take more and more rights from the citizens. You may or may not agree with that opinion, but the facts stands that experts think they could mean trouble in the future if a politician chooses to emplout them. Come on, when would a politician not emploit laws to do legal power grabs if the opportunity presents? If they don't mean for it to be that way, they need to write them so that this could never be an option.
I apologize for all my typos. It's not easy typing on a phone. - sm
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and my battery is dying, so I guess I'm going to have to go back to being bored for a couple more days.
I see, thanks for clarifying - sm
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I will have to read the law more closely. On my first read today, I didn't see any language that could be so broadly interpreted.
I didn't see it clearly myself, but apparently lawyers did. - sm
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I did not interpret it that way myself when I read them, but when I read some blogs and opinion pieces by legal analysts where they explain exactly where things are too broad and how they could be exploited, it was a real eye opener. They may not be meant in that way and the examples they gave may be extreme, but all it takes is one unscrupulous politician to take advantage of it, and we all know that the majority of them are unscrupulous, so they need to close any possible loopholes and stop slowing expanding on laws to make them more and more able to take our rights.
Bush Versus Shoe and security fail - see message
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He WAS his own security. That was undoubtedly his finest hour!! He had the reflexes of a cat. I think that was the first and only time I was impressed with him. Nothing could have thwarted the shoe attack any better!!
...and the result of that was there have been no...sm - VTMT
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asassinations or attempted asassinations of candidates for public office or holders of high public office in quite a few years. A small price to pay I say to have people watch their language once in a while. I remember when....
I should have prefaced that, except for Gabby Giffords. nm - VTMT
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Yes, because watching your language will keep people with bombs from - carrying out an assassination.
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Or guns or knives or whatever. Someone not being able to speak their mind does NOTHING to prevent assassination attemps. It only keeps fragile politician egos from having to hear someone disagree with them. If you want to prevent those things, make someone go through a metal detector before entering an event, etc. Again, it's just yet another law putting in place the foundations to take our rights away. Slowly and little bits at a time so they think we won't notice. Politicians are not good people and only care about themselves and their power and not the people of the united states. Whatever gets them more power is what they will do.
I think you are being a little bit extreme. nm - VTMT
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Not me, legal analysts. These aren't my original thoughts. - sm
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You think "I" am being extreme for repeating what I've read some lawyers writing about, discussing how the laws could be exploited because they're not specific enough. I think YOU are being blind to the agendas of politicians. We quite obviously will never agree. Clearly 95% of all politicians, from both sides, are evil and only care about what will get them farther in their career.

And back to the original gun topic, while I personally don't see a need for guns with large magazines and all that, the POINT is that it is not the government's right to decide. If you take away even ALL guns, people who want to do bad things will find other ways to make themselves infamous. The government needs to stay out of it, and a zillion other things, and needs to start worrying about making punishments for crimes actually seem scary enough that people will be afraid to commit them instead of the travesty of getting to watch TV and exercise all day with food and healthcare. And the media needs to butt out and quit making these morons famous. THAT would go a lot farther distance than gun control. Not that I'm an expert, but the whole new fun control issue being so pressing that is needs executive orders is a big load of crap being used to shove the liberal agenda down America's throats. They're using all those kids and their families for their own purposes and frankly it makes me sick.
free speech zones - link for you
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you can also google HR 347.

Come back when he's serving them at state dinners. - nm

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