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New KS welfare law restricts recipients to $25/day access


Posted: Jun 11, 2015

Kansas welfare recipients will be unable to get more than $25 per day in benefits under a new law sent this week to Republican Gov. Sam Brownback's desk by the state legislature. 
The bill also prohibits welfare recipients from spending their benefits at certain types of businesses, including liquor stores, fortune tellers, swimming pools and cruise ships. 
"We're trying to make sure those benefits are used the way they were intended," state Rep. Michael O'Donnell (R) said, according to the Topeka Capital-Journal. "This is about prosperity. This is about having a great life."
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, often known as "welfare," is one of several federal programs administered by states at the ground level. The Kansas TANF program, known locally as the Successful Families Program, offers a family of three as much as $429 per month in cash benefits. Kansas is one of at least 37 states that distributes benefits on government-issued debit cards, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. 
Under the new rule, a three-person family receiving the maximum benefit would have to go to the ATM more than a dozen times to get the full benefit, which would be whittled away by an 85 cent fee for each withdrawal after the first one. And the local cruise liner ATM will no longer be an option. 
The federal welfare reform law of 1996 gave states significant leeway to design their own programs, and for the past five years, state Republicans have been busy pursuing changes to TANF, food stamps and unemployment insurance, with varying degrees of success. Missouri Republicans, for instance, are considering a bill to forbid food stamps from being spent on steak or seafood. 
But national welfare advocates were taken aback by the $25 daily limit in Kansas, something that has not been implemented in any other state. 
"This provision makes it nearly impossible for a recipient who does not have a checking account to pay rent," Liz Schott of the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities said in an email. "Moreover, it actually takes money from the pockets of poor families since they will need to pay 85 cents for each additional withdrawal after the first one in a month, and often more with ATM transaction fees."
The provision originally would have limited daily benefits to $60, but state Sen. Caryn Tyson (R) reduced the amount through an amendment. 
Shannon Cotsoradis, director of Kansas Action for Children, said changes by the Brownback administration, such as shorter time limits, have already reduced TANF enrollment significantly. The number of Kansans receiving benefits has declined from 38,000 in 2011 to 15,000 last year, state data show.
Cotsoradis said she didn't know whether the dollar limit would further reduce enrollment, but suggested it probably wouldn't help families escape poverty. 
"It adds stress to families already experiencing toxic levels of stress," Cotsoradis said an interview. 
Kansas welfare recipients will be unable to get more than $25 per day in benefits under a new law sent this week to Republican Gov. Sam Brownback's desk by the state legislature. 

The bill also prohibits welfare recipients from spending their benefits at certain types of businesses, including liquor stores, fortune tellers, swimming pools and cruise ships. 

"We're trying to make sure those benefits are used the way they were intended," state Rep. Michael O'Donnell (R) said, according to the Topeka Capital-Journal. "This is about prosperity. This is about having a great life."

Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, often known as "welfare," is one of several federal programs administered by states at the ground level. The Kansas TANF program, known locally as the Successful Families Program, offers a family of three as much as $429 per month in cash benefits. Kansas is one of at least 37 states that distributes benefits on government-issued debit cards, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. 

Under the new rule, a three-person family receiving the maximum benefit would have to go to the ATM more than a dozen times to get the full benefit, which would be whittled away by an 85 cent fee for each withdrawal after the first one. And the local cruise liner ATM will no longer be an option. 

The federal welfare reform law of 1996 gave states significant leeway to design their own programs, and for the past five years, state Republicans have been busy pursuing changes to TANF, food stamps and unemployment insurance, with varying degrees of success. Missouri Republicans, for instance, are considering a bill to forbid food stamps from being spent on steak or seafood. But national welfare advocates were taken aback by the $25 daily limit in Kansas, something that has not been implemented in any other state. 

"This provision makes it nearly impossible for a recipient who does not have a checking account to pay rent," Liz Schott of the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities said in an email. "Moreover, it actually takes money from the pockets of poor families since they will need to pay 85 cents for each additional withdrawal after the first one in a month, and often more with ATM transaction fees."

The provision originally would have limited daily benefits to $60, but state Sen. Caryn Tyson (R) reduced the amount through an amendment. 

Shannon Cotsoradis, director of Kansas Action for Children, said changes by the Brownback administration, such as shorter time limits, have already reduced TANF enrollment significantly. The number of Kansans receiving benefits has declined from 38,000 in 2011 to 15,000 last year, state data show.

Cotsoradis said she didn't know whether the dollar limit would further reduce enrollment, but suggested it probably wouldn't help families escape poverty. 

"It adds stress to families already experiencing toxic levels of stress," Cotsoradis said an interview. 

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I'm sorry, but they should not - sm

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be buying booze and going on cruises.

Do not agree with the $25 per day though. A family can't buy groceries on $25 per day.

I agree - sm

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2010:-

The Times analysis found nearly $12 million was spent in Las Vegas, $1.5 million in Florida, $387,908 in Hawaii, and $16,010 withdrawn from ATMs on cruise ships.

$69M IN CALIF. WELFARE MONEY SPENT OUT OF STATE

That's $750 per month. - sm

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That's too much in my opinion!

Or getting tattoos and going to psychics. I remember when - this was discussed here before. Those

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who have abused the systems in the past are making it hard for those in need. The way of the world.

The Kansas Welfare Rule That Went Too Far Even For Kansas - sm

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The Kansas Welfare Rule That Went Too Far Even For Kansas:-

Kansas lawmakers are already revisiting a new law that imposed harsh restrictions on how the state's welfare recipients can use their benefits.

The law capped ATM withdrawals with welfare debit cards at $25 per day -- an unprecedented restriction. It also banned the cards from being used at a long list of establishments, including swimming pools, fortune tellers and cruise ships. Gov. Sam Brownback (R) signed the law in April.

Now, prompted by concerns that the cash withdrawal limit went too far and would jeopardize the state's compliance with federal rules, Kansas lawmakers are revisiting that provision. An amendment that cleared the Kansas State Legislature on Saturday would give the state's Department for Children and Family Services leeway to loosen the limit or get rid of it altogether.

McClatchy reported last month that the new law could cost Kansas more than $100 million in federal funds to help pay for the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program, known in Kansas as the Successful Families Program. Federal law requires states to give TANF recipients "access to using or withdrawing assistance with minimal fees or charges," while the Kansas ATM limit would potentially subject recipients to heavy fees for frequent withdrawals.

"We'll do what we have to do to work with the federal partnership," Brownback told McClatchy.

A spokesman for the Administration for Children and Families at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, which oversees TANF, declined to say whether the $25 daily limit would be a problem. As of the beginning of June, Kansas had not yet sent HHS these adjustments to its welfare plan for the federal government to review.

"Once Kansas submits the plan amendment, ACF will review the amendment to determine if it meets the requirements of federal law," ACF spokesman Kenneth Wolfe said in an email. "We cannot say precisely how long that process will take, because it often involves a back-and-forth process with the state. ACF will work with the state to resolve any issues that require clarification."

Liz Schott, a welfare expert with the liberal Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, said it's not clear exactly what the federal government would do about the Kansas law if it's not compliant. States have more authority to tinker with TANF than they do with other federal programs, such as food stamps or unemployment insurance. And no other state has tried creating a $25 limit for ATM withdrawals.

"We're getting to new lows here," Schott said.

It's about time someone grew a brain. (I was going to say - another part of anatomy).

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nm

Meanwhile, corporate welfare continues unabated. - smh

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And costs this country billions of dollars. Where's the outrage? No, instead, we'll demonize the poor.

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