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So, why do you think the President is blocking access to the Visitor Logs


Posted: Sep 6, 2013

Why did "the most open and transparent government in history" change their mind and fight to keep them secret? The only thing transparent about this government seems to be all the leaks. I find that strange.

 

I don't agree with some of the words used in this article but it does make you wonder why the flip-flop again.

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Obama Secrecy Gambit over Visitor Logs Succeeds in Court

“A president that doesn’t want Americans, under law, to know who his visitors are is a president who doesn’t want to be accountable.”

That’s what I said in a statement to the press in response to a ruling of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, which found that U.S. Secret Service’s White House visitor logs for people visiting the president’s office are not subject to disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). The disappointing ruling came in a Judicial Watch lawsuit against the United States Secret Service.

As you know, Judicial Watch has been fighting through three presidential administrations – Clinton, Bush and Obama – to force the release of White House visitor logs. Along the way we’ve been both threatened and offered what essentially was a bribe to give up the fight. Always we refuse.

Why so persistent? Here’s how I explained it in my press statement, which contemplates the harmful ramifications of the decision and signals Judicial Watch’s intent to fight on:

“The appellate court decision punches another hole in the Freedom of Information Act, the law which allows Americans to know what their government is up to. We are strongly considering an appeal.

“The legal gymnastics in this unprecedented decision shows that President Obama is not the only one willing to rewrite laws without going through Congress. And this legal fight, in which President Obama is fighting tooth and nail against full disclosure under law of his White House visitors, further exposes his big lie that his administration is the most transparent in history.”

 

It came on January 21, 2009, the day after assuming office. President Barack Obama then told his senior staff and cabinet members: “Let me say it as simply as I can: Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.”

 

On September 4, 2009, the Obama White House upped the ante even further, proclaiming to the press: “Today, the President took another important step toward a more open and transparent government by announcing a historic new policy to voluntarily disclose White House visitor access records.” He added, “Americans have a right to know whose voices are being heard in the policymaking process.”

 

See this link:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Opening-up-the-peoples-house

 

And what have we gotten instead? Nothing but lying, obfuscation and stonewalling. Just ask our investigators – the best in the business – who must endure one trick after another, day after day, all intended to keep the activities of the Obama administration secret.

 

Obama administration officials hide behind bogus claims of “national security.” They manipulate the FOIA process. They send useless, completely redacted documents in response to requests. They claim no records exist at all, only to subsequently “find” them when courts intervene. They shift requests between agencies in a ridiculous shell game intended to drag out the process. And on and on and on.

 

With respect to the White House visitor logs, the administration made the ludicrous argument that government records are not government records at all. And the court, in an act of judicial activism, essentially rewrote FOIA law and bought it.

 

JW’s pursuit of the White House visitor logs has been a particularly important undertaking for the organization. Because these records go to the heart of the problem with respect to the rampant influence peddling that goes on in this city. Who has the ear of the president and what do they want? These records help answer this question.

 

In the case of the current administration, JW has demonstrated time and time again that radical leftist special interest groups from La Raza to the ACLU to the NAACP are zipping in and out of the Obama White House making their demands known, helping to craft policies that impact the country, and usually not for the better.

 

If the appellate court decision is allowed to stand, the Obama administration will have succeeded in turning the Freedom of Information Act on its head. Visitors to the Oval Office will come and go under an impenetrable cloak of secrecy. And Obama and his successors will be able to cut backroom deals with shadowy characters far removed from the essential element of public scrutiny. That is what’s at stake.

 

As Politico’s White House correspondent Josh Gerstein wrote in his report on the decision, “The ruling is also a defeat for an array of major news organizations, the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press and CREW. In amicus briefs, they asked the appeals court to uphold the lower court decision and find that the access records are subject to processing under FOIA.”

 

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This President has much to hide. He rewrites (sm) - msg

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and spins and twists laws so that they suit his purposes. He has shown no promised transparency since sitting down in the Oval Office. He obviously has a lot to hide. Another lie about transparency - that was just the beginning.

Agree. Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize and - yet he wants to strike Syria.

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What a disgrace of a president.

Yes. It's just appalling he received such esteemed - global recognition.

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How will we ever get over the shame of being honored in such a fashion?
We who? Him. He got the honor for doing nothing and - then made a fool of himself.
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We, as in our nation's president. - Same concept as
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the last big pronoun dust-up over the my military/our military scandal. Many across the globe celebrate and share a sense of national pride when their country produces a Nobel laureate, but I can see how disturbing our haters and dividers would find that practice. Ses la vive.
Correction. - sm
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it's c'est la vie
You're right about the concept. He now has made - fools of us all. C'est la vie
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and you're wrong to presume to speak for anyone - except yourself. nm
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Just as the silly Peace Prize is his only. - For doing absolutely nothing.
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Just give me one good reason why he got it. - Just one.
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I'll wait.
A global slap in the face to W's outgoing administration - was long overdue.
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At least that's what the NY Times, LA Times and WaPo seemed to think at the time. IMO, President Obama is WAY more deserving than Yitzhak Rabin, Shimon Peres, Menachem Begin, Yasser Arafat and (LOL) Henry Kissinger, all of whom received the award.
He had done nothing at the time he got it. Now he's - just made a mess of things.(sm)
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with his dillying and dallying.
Well, evidently the Nobel Committee did not share - this point-of-view.
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One reason they gave was his promotion of nuclear nonproliferation in his blueprint for change, an initiative which is relative to his current strong stance on CW ban enforcement. You can read all about it here:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/415/strengthen-the-nuclear-non-proliferation-treaty/
He prefers drones for killing. Okay. - I get it.
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as opposed to W's blanket bombing and nameless, faceless - collateral damage whoopsie-daisies.
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Killing is killing. - nm
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You're right. Here's the Nobel committee's reason - for awarding Obama the prize.
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"The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.

For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."

Oslo, October 9, 2009

Note that the person who said it was largely due to just trying to undo the damage from the GW Bush/neocon years is correct. The achievement was really just resuming efforts toward world peace after a bad backslide.
wow i'm impressed. not - me
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Bet you are though

3-0 Appellate Court ruling: "Congress made clear that it did not want documents - like the appointment calendars (SM)

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of the president and his close advisors to be subject to disclosure" under the Freedom of Information Act, wrote Merrick Garland, chief judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit."

"In Friday's ruling, Garland said that construing the term "agency records" to extend to White House visitor logs could substantially affect the president's ability to meet confidentially with foreign leaders, agency officials or members of the public, which could make the Freedom of Information Act a potentially serious congressional intrusion into the conduct of the president's daily operations."

"Under federal law, presidential records can remain confidential for up to 12 years."

I'm a big transparency buff, but even I don't want Putin, Ayatollah Ali Kahameni, and the Koch brothers using the Freedom of Information Act to spy on the Presidents' daily meetings.

Entire article below.

Did the OP miss this statement in the article on purpose? - just saying

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per the article:

As you know, Judicial Watch has been fighting through three presidential administrations – Clinton, Bush and Obama – to force the release of White House visitor logs.

Clinton BUSH and Obama...

What I find transparent is any pretense some of the posts/posters have any agenda OTHER than to mine news articles for anything remotely negative while working very hard to ignore anything remotely positive.

THAT is what I find transparent.

So why do you think JW omitted historical context of - of how determined Ws administration

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was to defy provisions of the Presidential Records act of 1978 and Reagan's subsequent EO 12667? The PRA stipulates the records to be subject to FOIA 5 years after a former president's administration has concluded and allows them as many as 6 specific restrictions to public access for up to twelve years. Reagan's EO 12667 imposed a few modest procedural obstacles by requiring the Archivist to delay records release requests once the protected time period has elapsed to allow the former president to invoke executive privilege AND for the incumbent president to sign off on the request. In both cases, the former and incumbent are required to "consult" with the Attorney General and the Counsel to the President...an I'll cover your backside if you cover mine end-run.

When the time came for Reagan's papers to be released to FOIA access, W's Counsel to the President requested several 90-day extensions, (from March 23 to August 31 2001), then AG Alberto Gonzalez requested further delay. In November, W issued EO 13233, further restricting access to records "reflecting military, diplomatic, or national security secrets, Presidential communications, legal advice, legal work, or the deliberative processes of the President and the President's advisers.

After 3 failed attempts to reverse 13233 prior to Jan 2009, it was President Obama who restored the procedure laid out in Reagan's EO 12667 when he issued EO 13489. So, looks like W was the one who fought harder to restrict access, and it was Obama who removed those narrowly circumscribed parameters. That said, it would also appear that the courts use their discretion to interpret the finer legal points in ways that favor and preserve the vestigial limits W imposed. In this current case, their interpretations seem to uphold W's diplomatic, communications, and deliberative process provisions.

To JW: Ya win some, ya lose some. Keep on truckin'....or simply comply with the law and wait the proscribed time periods to be exhausted, then see if President Obama invokes executive privileges allowed under the PRA.

What I'd like to know is why the conservative watchdog group is not all consumed with accessing W's records disclosure, since his 5 years post-administration time period has expired.

I find that very strange.


Ooops - hit "like" instead of "dislike." - Let the record show.

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Not strange at all.... - just saying

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If you look at the people who comprise these groups (board members) it makes more sense

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