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Looking for fraud? Don't look at food stamp recipients, look at Wall Street


Posted: Dec 3, 2013

Of late I see an alarming increase is welfare-bashing "journalism."  I see it in my local news, they actually try to chase around the food stamp "cheats" and catch them out. Lazy journalism, IMHO. Why don't you expose the real cheats, the white collar criminals whose fraud is really hurting the system and this country?

My pay has halved within 3 years, almost to the point I am eligible for some of these programs, not that I want to be. But how can someone in our job not have the slightest bit of compassion for those in need?

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It's more than one thing. I've worked with the - "poor" at two separate

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states' unemployment offices. Collecting benefits from the taxpayer is their way-of-life in many cases and some that I dealt with were third or fourth generation welfare recipients. You could say something like “you are not allowed to receive X and Y at the same time” and they’d snap right back that “page 262 of the operations manual allows concurrent receipt of X and Y under certain circumstances” and so on. They know the rules better than the workers do! They are healthy enough to stand in line and memorize manuals but they cant do any job?

There is no doubt that - fraud exists

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And someone who can memorize a manual like that surely has the requisite skills to get a job. I'm just saying this kind of fraud is negligible in $ terms overall and these people are not changing the fabric of our country, just working the system. What those Wall Street brokers are doing, however, and accounting firms (I worked for one - they are worse than the fraudsters because they get away scot-free with telling them where to hide the profits tax-free!) and other white collar criminals, IS changing and subverting the way this country is supposed to work, they are far worse than welfare cheats.

It becomes, I think, a matter of measuring pros and cons. I know in this job even though my pay has gone down hugely, it is still more than I could make if I had to get a job locally in a rural area, considering the relatively low pay rates paid around here plus transport, clothes. So I am staying in this dead end job for my reasons, it is better than anything else I could do. Maybe those people have the same weighing up to do. Working for minimum wage when you end up paying childcare costs more than you earn or equal to?

I would rather stop the big time white collar cheats than stigmatize the small potatoes that is whatever poor people can scrape together. What about big oil and agribusiness welfare? They get huge amounts of subsidies, even our own MTSOs I imagine are subsidized even though they send our jobs overseas.

What you are talking about is corporatism. - It used to be called fascism

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but that word has been misused. I blame both politicians and the corporations.

Most of the money digitized (it's not printed anymore) for quantitative easing went to Wall Street. That's why the rich keep getting richer.

On the other issue of welfare, I don't mind helping people who need it temporarily. But a government program is never temporary.

We taxpayers are also subsidizing fast food CEO pay - this is huge corporate welfare

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So we are supposed to get angry at the little guys trying to get food stamps and just look the other way at this massive fraud? The kind of fraud that enables them to pay themselves big bonuses tax free and then cut their bottom line by reducing pay of people like us?

I am disgusted at anyone who abuses the system. It's only - going to get worse. I have

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gotten myself off the grid as much as possible.

At this point it no longer matters which of the - Betty

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many swords hanging over our heads will be the fatal one and knowing to some degree just how close we are to the edge of the cliff would be beneficial.

Not enough people working, too many unemployed or on some aid, Medicaid, Medicare, add in all the instability in the Middle East right now, plus Japan’s economic woes, China’s economy bubble, the Euro Zone, and you’ve got a real recipe for disaster. It's a global world now.

I think it's more appropriate to say "end corporatism" - instead of "end capitalism" as

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corporatism is not capitalism. Small businesses are good, big corporations and all their political donations are the culprits.

Just look at all the crap these big corporations like Monsanto, GE, Bank of America, etc. are doing. They are destroying this country and they are in bed with the Republican and Democratic Party.

I once asked a guy holding a “End Capitalism Now” sign… “Where did you get the materials for your sign?”

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