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Posted: May 19, 2013

everyone else if you want to get by."  Spoken by our President who announced he was a black man at Morehouse speech.  This is how he promotes racism and division.  No, Obama, maybe 40 years or so ago you did, but now you don't have to work twice as hard.  You just have to WORK and do a good job, like everyone else.  Stop with the dividing remarks.  You are asking for another civil war, I truly think that's what you want.  You will probably get it.

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Out of context baloney doesn't remotely resemble what he said. - What a shock!

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For starters he attributed those hypothetical words to a "grandma, uncle or parent," then proceeded to take issue with the with their meaning.  In fact, the context expresses the very similar sentiments as your statement that "You just have to WORK and do a good job like everyone else..." except, he takes it a step further by advising them to strive for excellence over and above all others:    

"You are the mantle of Frederick Douglass and Booker T. Washington and Ralph Bunche and Langston Hughes and George Washington Carver and Ralph Abernathy and Thurgood Marshall and, yes, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. These men were many things to many people and they knew full well the role that racism played in their life. But when it came to their own accomplishments and sense of purpose, they had NO TIME FOR EXCUSES.  

I’m sure every one of you has a grandma, an uncle, or a parent who’s told you at some point in life that, as an African-American, you have to work twice as hard as anyone else if you want to get by. I think President Mays put it even better: “Whatever you do, strive to do it so well that no man living and no man dead, and no man yet to be born can do it any better.” I promise you, what was needed in Dr. Mays’ time, that spirit of excellence, and hard work, and dedication, is needed now more than ever. If you think you can get over in this economy, just because you have a Morehouse degree, you are in for a rude awakening. But if you stay hungry, keep hustling, keep on your grind and get other folks to do the same – nobody can stop you." 

The entire speech revolved around that core concept and can be found in the link provided below.  It is completely appropriate to the occasion and the audience and is void of racist or divisive rhetoric, unlike the post to which I am replying.  On the other hands, clearly your post would be right at home in the Fox News comments section on this event, where racist rhetoric rages on and on and on....

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/prepared-text-for-president-obamas-speech-at-moreh/nXwk2/

http://nation.foxnews.com/obamas-morehouse-speech/2013/05/19/obama-african-american-you-have-work-twice-hard-anyone-else?intcmp=fly


For starters he attributed those hypothetical words to a "grandma, uncle or parent," then proceeded to take issue with their meaning.  In fact, the context expresses the very similar sentiments as your statement that "You just have to WORK and do a good job like everyone else..." except, he takes it a step further by advising them to strive for excellence over and above all others:


"You are the mantle of Frederick Douglass and Booker T. Washington and Ralph Bunche and Langston Hughes and George Washington Carver and Ralph Abernathy and Thurgood Marshall and, yes, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. These men were many things to many people and they knew full well the role that racism played in their life. But when it came to their own accomplishments and sense of purpose, they had NO TIME FOR EXCUSES.


I’m sure every one of you has a grandma, an uncle, or a parent who’s told you at some point in life that, as an African-American, you have to work twice as hard as anyone else if you want to get by. I think President Mays put it even better: “Whatever you do, strive to do it so well that no man living and no man dead, and no man yet to be born can do it any better.” I promise you, what was needed in Dr. Mays’ time, that spirit of excellence, and hard work, and dedication, is needed now more than ever. If you think you can get over in this economy, just because you have a Morehouse degree, you are in for a rude awakening. But if you stay hungry, keep hustling, keep on your grind and get other folks to do the same – nobody can stop you." 


The entire speech revolved around that core concept and can be found in the link provided below.  It is completely appropriate to the occasion and the audience and is void of racist or divisive rhetoric, unlike the post to which I am replying, which clearly would be right at home in the Fox News comments section on this event, where racist rhetoric rages on and on and on....


 


http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/prepared-text-for-president-obamas-speech-at-moreh/nXwk2/


http://nation.foxnews.com/obamas-morehouse-speech/2013/05/19/obama-african-american-you-have-work-twice-hard-anyone-else?intcmp=fly


 




Your R-I-C said, "racism is not an excuse for not excelling." - That's not promoting it?

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Why does he keep bringing it up? His own words. - Divider-in-Chief (DIC)

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Ummm, because it's a fact of life in - the good ole USA.
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Post-racist America has not yet arrived. It if had, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. If you're really interested in the answer to your question, I'd suggest you read the transcript to see how he handled that subject. Hint: It was absolutely appropriate considering the audience and the occasion.
If you are an African American female, you can - get a job over a white guy now pretty easily.
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It's called a "quota", and I am well aware of this issue, so please don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about. Also, I worked in a medical office for many years, and we had very few AA's apply. Just before I retired, we had a woman apply who was not really qualified, but she was given the job so there would be no screaming of racism or discrimination. She worked 30 hrs a week and refused to work 40.. "because if I make too much money, I will lose my Govt assistance". She had help with housing and food stamps. She would call off suddenly stating she needed to get her hair done. This woman had amazing nerve, yet when asked to do anything new or extra at the job, she yelled racism. She was finally fired after enough documentation (a ton more than any white person hired) showing her poor record and attitude. So, most of the time, if you actually want to work hard, you can get a job, whatever your race !! My husband applied for a job at Fed Ex and was told he had the top score on testing, yet found out they hired an AA woman instead (with a lower score) to meet the quota. These days, there is proof of reverse racism.
The African American unemployment rate is nearly twice - the overall rate.
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Unemployment Falls To 7.5 Percent, Black Unemployment Rate Remains At 13.2 Percent







The Labor Department released its April jobs report Friday morning (May 3), highlighting a slight drop in the overall unemployment rate. With the rate dropping to 7.5 percent from 7.6 percent in March, jobless numbers for the African-American community remain at a sobering 13.2 percent.


RELATED: Expert: Black Unemployment Compounded By White Favoritism During Hiring


In April, 165,000 jobs were added to the economy, a small improvement over the 138,000 jobs added a month prior. While this figure shattered economic predictions, hiring only seems to be happening for just one segment of the overall population: Women workers, with their unemployment rate at 6.7 percent, were the largest number of job seekers to become employed in April.


Yet, Black job seekers aren’t the only group to feel the unemployment crunch.


Adult men (7.1 percent), teenagers (24.1 percent), Whites (6.7 percent), Hispanics (9.0 percent), and Asians (5.1 percent) all saw little change in their numbers when compared with the Labor Department’s past statistics. The largest boon to the workforce happened in restaurants and bars, which added 38,000 jobs and retailers, which had the next highest number of hires with 29,000.


Sequestration also played a factor in this most-recent jobs report, with 11,000 federal, state, and local government workers losing their jobs due to budget constraints and other factors.


In all, 11.7 million people are out of work, a staggering rate when compared to the unemployment rate sitting at 4.5 percent before the recession shattered the economy.


Out of necessity, part-time work is the only part of the workforce showing the strongest improvement, with many workers forced to take piecemeal jobs to make ends meet.


The report reveals that Blacks and Hispanics are hardest hit by joblessness, signaling a fact well-known in those communities that jobs for those groups are harder to come by.


Although this disparity has been documented in detail over the years, little has been done to address the wide gap between Whites and people of color in today’s job market.


Read the details of the Labor Department’s jobs report here.


http://newsone.com/2431906/unemployment-numbers-april-2013/






Black Unemployment Driven By White America's Favors For Friends



Posted: 03/29/2013 8:19 am EDT






There's a comforting-to-white-people fiction about racism and racial inequality in the United States today: They're caused by a small, recalcitrant group who cling to their egregiously inaccurate beliefs in the moral, intellectual and economic superiority of white people.


The reality: racism and racial inequality aren't just supported by old ideas, unfounded group esteem or intentional efforts to mistreat others, said Nancy DiTomaso, author of the new book, The American Non-Dilemma: Racial Inequality Without Racism. They're also based on privilege, she said -- how it is shared, how opportunities are hoarded and how most white Americans think their career and economic advantages have been entirely earned, not passed down or parceled out.


The way that whites, often unconsciously, hoard and distribute advantage inside their almost all white networks of family and friends is one of the driving reasons that in February just 6.8 percent of white workers remained unemployed while 13.8 percent of black workers and 9.6 percent of Hispanic workers were unable to find jobs, DiTomaso said.


This week, the professor of organization management at Rutgers University and her ideas have captured the attention of the business press. There was a blog about her book in The Wall Street Journal and a story in Bloomberg Businessweek. DiTomaso, who is white, has gathered evidence that racism and inequality actively shape the labor market and make it far harder for black workers to find jobs.


"Across all three states where I did my research, I heard over and over again [white] people admitting that they don't interact very often with nonwhites, not at work, not at home or otherwise," said DiTomaso about the 246 interviews with working-class and middle-class whites she did over the course of about a decade in Tennessee, Ohio and New Jersey. Her research included detailed job histories and information about the way her study participants obtained jobs over the course of their careers.


"That was true for just about everybody unless they were still in college," DiTomaso continued. "Others would allude to some college friend or experience. But since then, they had not had much contact with blacks. So how would they pass opportunities and information across race lines?"


DiTomaso concludes, based on her research, that most white Americans engage, at least a few times per year, in the activities that foster inequality. While they may not deliberately discriminate against black and other non-white job seekers, they take actions that make it more likely that white people will be employed -- without thinking that what they're doing amounts to discrimination.


"The vast majority assumed everyone has the same opportunities, and they just somehow tried harder, were smarter," DiTomaso said of those she interviewed. "Not seeing how whites help other whites as the primary way that inequality gets reproduced today is very helpful. It's easy on the mind."


So white Americans tell a neighbor's son about a job, hire a friend's daughter, carry the resume of a friend (or, for that matter, a friend's boyfriend's sister) into the boss's office, recommend an old school mate or co-worker for an unadvertised opening, or just say great things about that job applicant whom they happen to know. But since most Americans, white and black, live virtually segregated lives, and since advantages, privileges and economic progress have already accrued in favor of whites, the additional advantages that flow from this help go almost exclusively to whites, DiTomaso said.


DiTomaso's findings aren't exactly new, said Algernon Austin, director of the Race, Ethnicity and the Economy program at the Economic Policy Institute, a left-leaning Washington-based think tank.


"Listen, I think it's an important piece of work to reiterate and clarify the ways in which blacks are disadvantaged in the labor market," Austin said. "Of course, part of the appeal of this is that there's no malice. You can say no one is to blame. The Businessweek piece says, well, people just like helping out their friends, which is perfectly natural and normal."


DiTomaso's work does confirm that networks -- not just the kind you build over awkward conversations, finger foods and watered-down cocktails but the kind you're born into -- matter, Austin said. It also points to just how different forms of inequality feed one another. Family-and-friends segregation feeds job and income inequality. That in turn feeds neighborhood and school segregation. That then leaves some kids less likely to receive a quality education and escape from the cycle, he said.


Austin thinks that increased public awareness of opportunity hoarding, as well as public policies that enhance options for blacks and Hispanics, could make a difference. Bringing more blacks into the labor force would have the immediate effect of reducing black poverty, and quality early-childhood education has been proven to blunt some of the short- and long-term effects of childhood poverty, he said.


"To President Obama's credit, he's certainly focused on early childhood education," Austin said.


It's not that black workers don't attempt the same sort of job assists within their own networks, said Deirdre Royster, an economic sociologist at New York University and author of Race and the Invisible Hand: How White Networks Exclude Black Men From Blue Collar Jobs.


African Americans ask neighbors, significant others, the significant others of neighbors, relatives and friends about open jobs, too. But since black unemployment rates were far higher than white rates before, during and after the recession, the number of people in a typical black social network who are in a position to help is far more limited.


According to Royster, there's an additional twist: When blacks are aware of a job, they describe the job, the boss, the company and its preferences and needs. Then they follow up with a warning.


"They give the person looking for a job all sorts of information and then they say, 'But don't tell them I sent you,'" said Royster.


Black workers are aware of something that researchers are still trying to explain: White bosses often worry, lack of statistical evidence aside, that black workers are more likely to sue them or band together in the workplace and try to change things, Royster said. That seems all the more likely if the black workers already know one another, she said. And many white hiring managers still assume, consciously or unconsciously, that black workers bring undesirable workplace habits and qualities, Royster said.


Indeed, a 2003 study by Devah Pager, now a Princeton University sociologist, found that white men with criminal records were more likely to get callbacks for job interviews than black men with the same qualifications and no criminal history.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/29/black-unemployment-nancy-ditomaso_n_2974805.html






It aint easy being white. - Franklin
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I feel for you... it's rough being a white male in America. And it might be my amazing nerve speaking here, but I find it very hard to believe that a medical office would hire an employee who could only work 30 hours to fill a 40-hour position (unless the woman was working with a program and the office was getting a deal as far as pay goes to hire her, i.e., an internship for school) and that Fed Ex would go the extra step and offer up a "we went with the unqualified black lady" excuse instead of a standard "we have chosen another applicant" or "the position has already been filled" reason for passing over an applicant. I've never had a company - especially a large company - offer anything more than a "thanks but no thanks" type of reason for not hiring me.

Anyhow... I have to cut this short because I gotta run and get my hair did, but thanks for the post full of stereotypes.
"Amazing nerve?" - Ain't no such thang.
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For what it's worth, the post to which you replied is not really hard to believe. It is impossible to believe, from beginning to end.
In the case of the above post, - Franklin
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it's my guess that "amazing nerve" does not mean that this woman was brave and ran into burning buildings to rescue people or that she was graceful under pressure, but rather she was uppity... The nerve of that one!

More dog whistle awesomeness! And, of course, I'm racist for pointing this out.
Given a choice - I'd take
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an office full of uppities over a forum full of dog-whistling shills (or is it shrills?) any day of the week. My first encounter with how many different ways the uppity card can be played was nearly 60 years ago as a child growing up in the pre-civil-rights South when cotton was still king and the only working blacks around were neighborhood plantation housekeepers and yard folks. Needless to say, I reached zero tolerance with that puke many years ago. I have even less tolerance for the reverse racism accusations wingers hurl toward the left every time they're caught in the act of revealing their confederate alter egos.
You GO, girl!!! You nailed it. - nm
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Key is you have to look for work - - huffington puffington
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Hmmm... - mgm
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So the actions of one bad employee, who happened to be African American, are an indictment of all African Americans? Interesting.
Racism is alive and well in this country. - Unfortunately.
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Some of us see it a lot more than others, depending on where we live.

I'm sorry. I find no such quote in either the - cited excerpt or

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the linked transcript and have no clue what an R-I-C is. In answer to your question....NOT. I would love to hear how the statement, "racism is not an excuse for not excelling" promotes racism since, by my read, it conveys exactly the opposite meaning by admonishing against the use of racism as an excuse. Please, do tell.
Your post is right on! - sm
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It's the South that keeps referring to the Civil War as the "War of Northern Aggression."

I swear, republicans in Congress and their followers won't be happy until they cause another Civil War in this country.

They need to refresh their history. If they did, they would find that a lot of WHITE people fall into the poverty category, thanks to this current Congress.

It's the people in POVERTY they wish to extinguish. Instead, they're choosing the AA race to attack.
I'm pretty fluent in winger - Helper Monkey
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And I'm pretty sure R-I-C = Racist-in-chief.

Isn't that fun? :/
Bingo. Makes more sense than my best guess. - sm
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which was "racism is cool." Thanks Helper Monkey. Your wingerspeak is mighty impressive. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm on my way to file the RIC revelation in the more-information-than-you-will-ever-need trash bin where it belongs.

In short, no. - YD

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thank you... - sm

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Thank you for the balance your post provides. Thanks for the context. Thank you for reminding me that there are people who share my values.

Real Clear Politics is not Fox news. - nm

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There was a video in OP's post from RCP - - now it's gone. (sm)

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What happened? It was an "in his own words" video.

IE and Google Chrome refuse to display the link - on my computer.

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Perhaps they were protecting me from some sinister virus lurking in the shadows. I prefer to read the "in his own words" transcript, which I was readily able to access.
The video was a video of OBO in his own words. - On RCP.
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The video is on Real Clear Politics - you can go there directly. - Scrubber in Chief?
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