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Posted: Jan 14, 2010

My local news is trying to get us to donate money and I am not feeling this at all. I wish they would cover the tent cities, the senate hearings about the financial crisis, the joblessness, the soldiers and their families....anything "American," but all I see is Haiti. The truth is that tons of relief supplies are sitting at the airport right now and people and money on the way. If they could not rebuild New Orleans, how are they going to rebuild Haiti? In the list of helpers, they never mentioned Cuba (the neighbor to the left) and Dominican Republic (the neighbor on the right). What is up with that?

Ugh....

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I as a human being feel empathy, anyone should - L

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I have been to the Domincan Republic in the 80s and so very poor there, I could only imagine how Haiti is like. I guess the reason Cuba and Dominican not mentioned is they have not suffered a 7.0 earthquake and have their entire country demolished, having the loss of life that Haiti has plus just devasation beyond imagination. Your television I am sure has other channels, just change it so you will not have to see what other humans are trying to live through.

How can you not feel compassion? - Old part-timer

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Haiti is terribly poor to begin with and now to have this massive loss of life with injured people trapped in collapsed buildings and people wandering crying in the streets. It breaks my heart, as I'm sure it does most others.

Here I have a roof over my head, food in the refrigerator, abundant fresh water and I will sleep in a warm, comfortable bed tonight, for which I am humbly grateful.

My prayers go out to those suffering in Haiti. God speed those going to provide relief.

Local news requesting money - not prayers

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The local news is soliciting money not prayers and I don't feel the need to give them money. Technically that is not a lack of compassion or empathy.

Then it sounds like you have an issue with - your news station, however

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You have to remember that any time a huge disaster hits any country they always ask that those who can to please donate.

I feel so bad for the people in Haiti. It is such a poor country to begin with. Then you have the thugs in their government hoarding and stealing money (hmmmm....just like ours - what a coincidence), etc. It's just an overall horrible situation for the people of their country. One cannot have anything but empathy for the people.

Like one poster above said and I'm with her. I have a roof over my head, food in my fridge, and a warm bed to sleep in, along with clean water for basic necessities such as showers and clean clothes, etc. The people of Haiti now have nothing. Unfortunately I'm living paycheck to paycheck so cannot afford to donate, but I don't let the TV stations get me down. They are only letting people know where they can donate.

I think when Katrina hit us, other countries donated (not positive, but I think I remember hearing that). It's compassion.

So who in our government are you calling a - thug? Explain please

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NM

They are in congress (almost every one of them) and - your news station, however

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sitting in the highest seat in this country of course. I'm not naming names here, but am sure you must realize who they are. Unless you're not keeping up politics in the news. But then that is for the political board.

A thug sitting in the highest seat in the country>? - Explain please

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I am glad I respect my country more than this.

Yes, I do respect my COUNTRY - see message - your news station, however

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"Country" is the key word. So is "Constitution". I respect that too. I do not respect the people sitting in those seats. They are crooks - ALL of them. Crooks are in all parties. The back room closed door deals, etc. But that is a discussion for the political board.

Glad we agree on one thing. We both respect our "country".

Hati - anonmt

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I live in Miami -- only 700 miles from Hati -- really not that far away, when one thiks about it -- we have Americans who live and work there as well doing charitable acts and they have been affected by this quake as well -- we are still missing one of 12 college students and 2 faculty members from an AMERICAN university who are still missing. Hati was also destroyed a couple of years ago by a major hurricaine and has been in the process of rebuidling. Right now, we have docotrs and nurses who have traveled down there from Jackson Memorial in Miami and they are trying to bring the most seriously injured patients back. One young AMERICAN woman had to have a BKA -- I just hope that the region of the country that you live in never experiences any type of natural disaster. They have also stated on the news here (and we have local news anchors that have flown down there) that the cemetaries are so full, there is no room to bury the new victims of this tragedy -- the money is needed for MANY things, rebuilding, tryting to provide "necessities" to these people and the Red Cross quite frankly has had their financial resources drained.

Good point. This IS an American story. - nm

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Americans died, too. - LK

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A family who lives only about 15 miles from me has been awaiting word of their 22-year-old daughter who was missing in the rubble of a collapsed building, and just received word this morning that she was found dead. She had attended a high school and University in this area where many people I know attend and was in Haiti working for a charitable organization. This feels very personal to me, but she is only one of tens of thousands who lost their lives in Haiti, and many more thousands who will lose theirs if help doesn't come soon. This is a HUGE story, and if the U.S. is able to help these people who are suffering, so be it. There is monumental human suffering going on.

Somehow I think if Osama Bin Laben... - ms. snark

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...had attacked Haiti, people like you would be foaming at the mouth....

OBL - anon

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Is this person somehow related to Osama bin Laden?

While I feel compassion for the Haitians, but heart lies with America - Sorry

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That $100 million could do so much HERE for our American citizens with the economical crisis we are in that I find myself why on earth we're giving that aid elsewhere when we so desperately need it right here in our own backyards. Countless Americans are on the verge of losing their homes (or have already lost them), a huge number of people are jobless and literally do not know where their next meal will come from, American children are going hungry each and every day, and I can't past my compassion for my own American brothers and sisters to feel giving $100 million to Haiti is an appropriate thing for our country to do AT THIS TIME.

I've never, ever begrudged foreign aid in the past, and I'm sure I'll get flamed and blasted into outer space for this, but I'm giving my feeble donations that I can spare to American-based charities at this time.

For once, I feel it's time America took care of Americans first.

Go ahead, flame away...I'm not proud of how I feel but it IS the way I feel.

What? You are worried about ECONOMICS here in America sm - sm

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when there are trapped people, dead children lying in the streets where literally millions of people have lost EVERYTHING? We can afford to give 100 million dollars to these poor people who need our help, not so we over privileged Americans can have more money to buy bigger homes or drive bigger cars or have more luxury than we already NEED! Good gracious, whatever happened to HUMANITY for crying out loud!!!!

I second that emotion. - Excellent. nm

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nm

Perhaps YOU are living LARGE, but unemployment leads to POVERTY - People are starving HERE and lost everything

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Sorry, you might live in a big fancy house driving a big fancy car and getting fat on a surplus of income, but have you checked the statistics on AMERICAN UNEMPLOYMENT lately?

Whether by disaster or by economical crises, people can lose everything.

But then you sound like the type of person who could walk by a starving Veteran and refuse to drop a quarter in his cup because he's got it made.

I said in my post I had compassion for the Haitians, but I've got even more compassion for displaced American workers (such as NUMEROUS posters on this forum) who either have lost or are very close to losing everything themselves.

Yes, I have compassion, especially for what I see right here in this country with my own eyes...Do YOU?

Not to worry. I am sure that - sm

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once this pesky little catastrophe goes away and the media feeding frenzy that provides endless opportunities to seize photojournalist of the year awards along with it, the news once again be riveted on the US economy. Just sit tight. You will not have to endure the reports on America's position as a world leader in humanitarian aid relief efforts too much longer.

What? Having a hard time getting upset? sm - Just Me

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No, I am not having a hard time getting upset. How compassion-less can one person be? Have you not seen the woman wailing in the street as they pull out the dead body of her second child? Are you a mom? How can you not have compassion on thousands of dead bodies lying around the street and their loved one looking at a make-shift morgue trying to find the bodies of their moms, dads, children? A city of millions was completely destroyed. They have no clean water to drink. They have no food. I cannot imagine the hopelessless these people must feel.

My heart literally breaks for these people. I feel hopeless here in my warm home, full of food and unlimited water to drink. Just be thankful to God that you are not in their situation and someone compassionless like you comes along and says they don't feel sorry for you. How sad!

How much will you be donating? - prayers and doers

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How much money are you donating, or will you be going down to help in person?

What purpose does tnis biting sarcasm serve? - sm

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Anyone who can be that cold in this situation must be one very, very unhappy person.

It is none of your business how much we have given. - Just Me

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AND if I could go and be a missionary there I would in a heartbeat!

Your questions - sm

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Dominican Republic was the first responder in Haiti. They are also dealing with aid workers trying to enter the country and will be taking on the ensuing onslaught of refugees.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/13/haiti.earthquake.dominican.republic/index.html

Cuba already had 400 officials in the country, 342 of whom set up makeshift clinics and have been providing medical care.

That's what's up with that. The magnitude of this disaster is going to require a global response, so stay tuned. Or not.

I saw how it went with Katrina - money mostly wasted

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Having lived through Katrina personally (instead of just watching it on TV), the disorganization, waste and politicing thereafter were unbelievable. The reporters standing around objectively watching people suffer without lifting a finger to actually HELP anybody, while using up the meager resources still available so THEY could look good while reporting it just blew my mind! Soldiers standing around with guns doing nothing. Helicopters flying back and forth, back and forth, jeeps tearing up and down the street all day every day...just for show it seemed. And yes, folks, we DID get offers of help from other countries, but our government actually REFUSED it as not needed....

That said - if a person is not able to just drop their life and go there and be a hands-on samaritan, don't waste your money giving it to your local news station (who only wants to send more reporters there for "human interest" stories).

And remember, those who will not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. Haiti and all the other coastal places will ALWAYS have devastation from hurricaines. Every single year. Yet they keep living there and subjecting themselves to that weather and that risk. Yes, its sad that people die and suffer from this - but WHY do they insist on living there and suffering? I learnt my lesson and moved where there will be no hurricaines, because I really don't want to go through it again.

So don't be sad if you can't afford to contribute to today's disaster. There were many in the past that got along without your money, and there are plenty more coming in the future. People naturally suffer as a result of living in tropical paradise and not evacuating when a hurricaine is on the way. Its not your job to fix what mother nature gave them, if they don't have the gumption to get the heck out of that dangerous place.

Hurricane Ike taught me different lessons - TXMT

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Reporters sitting around idly doing their jobs by drumming up awareness contribute invaluable help with staging, organizing, promoting, gathering, delivering and distributing aid into the region. That just might entitle them to a few rations and a couple of bottles of water, or maybe you would have them go without? If you can figure out a way to channel those meager satellite resources they were squandering directly to the victims, you might have a case. Soldiers standing around under orders to provide security and focused on trying to keep the situation from disintegrating into chaos, keeping you from being trampled by looters or accosted for your Pepsi, candy bar, cell phone, money, credit cards, car, etc., doing nothing? Your lack of gratitude toward the (count â��em) even 100 countries from around the world whose aid the US DID NOT refuse is breath-taking, especially considering that among them were many, many impoverished 3rd-world countries.

I live in Houston, New Orleansâ�� sister city, who welcomed the regionâ��s displaced Katrina survivors. I witnessed the same circumstances but in no way did I see what you describe. Your comments on WHY folks live in disaster-prone regions are mean-spirited and ill-informed. Haiti is a distinctly unique nation, just as New Orleans is a distinctly unique city, whose history, character and culture, by substantial measure, were formed, shaped, impacted and strengthened by their geography. What would you have them do, abandon their homeland, become a whole new population of refugees, and disappear into the diaspora?

I am happy that you have moved to a place where you can feel all warm and cozy, but that solution is unworkable for the populations of the world who inhabit hurricane-, tsunami-, tornado-, blizzard-, avalanche-, landslide-, flood-, drought-, fire-, heat-wave-, volcano- and earthquake-prone regions. I prefer the humanitarian approach, whereby humans rise to the occasion to help each other out when disaster strikes...over and over again. Those occasions serve to strengthen our bonds of humanity and our ability to survive. That is the meaning of the adage, â��Where but for the Grace of God go I."

BTW, the funds that enabled the people of New Orleans to rise up out of the ashes and rebuild were NOT a waste of money.

Big deal, you "welcomed" a few surviors - polish your halo

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Well, your perspective in Houston after Ike was a whole lot different from mine in Gulfport after Katrina! Scuse me, but those reporters were enjoying DAILY showers, hot meals and air conditioning at hotels exclusively for their use, while the locals weren't even allowed near the place and most of us went without a proper shower for a couple months! They filmed the absolute dregs of society, those most hysterical and illiterate (which everyone got VERY sick of seeing for the zillionth time), and ignored the rest of us who were a bit peeved that all our phone lines were jammed and we couldn't even call our families to let them know we were alive. The soldiers "protected" us by stringing barbed wire and keeping us away from the beach - even if our houses survived the storm, they came to evict us afterwards. Until you live under martial law watching reporters romp and play in the wreckage, you'll have no clue how those Hatians could be feeling, will you?

PS: God helps those who help themselves. Those that live in dangerous environments needn't be shocked when they gamble with their lives in exchange for paradise - sometimes gamblers lose. Its not on me to replace what they lose.

Houston received more than 100,000 after Katrina. - sm

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By my calculation, thatâ��s more than a few. It was enough to impact our job market, economy, and housing for years to come. There is a big difference between a city like Houston (which was not in the path of Katrina) absorbing a refuge population as compared to a town of 71,000 who was in the path of the storm trying to do the same thing, apples to oranges notwithstanding. We had the infrastructure to support it, not to mention the will as a community to provide them shelter, food, housing, jobs, social services and the like. I am VERY proud of our outgoing mayor for setting such a fine example of how to handle the aftermath of a natural disaster of such magnitude. There are many valuable lessons to be learned about cooperation between communities in addressing the problems of human displacement, not only from his superb leadership as a politician but also from his â��can-doâ�� approach to the undertaking. He carried this off with ease, grace and style. The halo is his to wear, not mine.

I am sorry to hear that you had to compete for resources and were left out of the spotlight when it came to media coverage. It is even more sad to see your inability to recognize that â��hysterical, illiterateâ�� Katrina survivors were not you enemy, but in fact, victims of the same deprivation you were experiencing. You guys were all in the same boat.

As far as the soldiers, barbed wire, blocked access and eviction are concerned, been there, done that. The same thing happened to me with regard to commercial property my husband and I have on the bay. He has an auto transport company and we could not access the storage facilities where he keeps his tools, equipment and 2 standby commercial trucks we use to make a living. We did not sit around throwing fits and stomping our feet. Instead, he hired an extra driver and I went to the library everyday to use the computers (since we had no electricity in our home) and searched for and dispatched jobs to him and the driver.
We then proceeded to work 14-hour days, 6 days a week for more than 2 months between Galveston, Freeport, Beaumont and Port Arthur doing auto salvage clearance. Many times, we had to wait for hours just to get onto Galveston Island. But no, I do not know what you felt like because we understood that the entire situation was out of our control and that all we could do was to try our best.

Your parting shot comes as no surprise. To each his own. I prefer to mitigate self pity with positive attitude and actions that solve problems rather than obstruct solutions.

You can stomp your feet and toot your horn now though - I was also too busy working

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I was too busy working 2 jobs at 2 local hospitals because the other MTs took a permanent evacuation - getting hassled by the man every time I set foot outside my house to go to work duty because of military blockades. Sorry I wasn't far removed in Houston feeling all great about myself for letting someone come hang out in my community - I was too busy sweating in the dark when I wasn't at work, praying for the phone lines to work and the power to come back on.

I'm sure salvaging autos was much more helpful to your fellow suffers than the ER reports I was typing a block from the flat zone. You are sooo much more humanitarian than I am, you WIN! I'm sorry though that you couldn't expend more effort reporting on misery and offering to shoot people traveling after dark, since you think that's so very noble.

There is no need to reduce this to a competition - sm

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between us over who wins the humanitarian of the year award. I am sorry you feel driven to do that. My expression of admiration for our mayor and the reasons I gave for it were simply meant to illustrate the difference it makes when people take a positive rather than a negative approach to the suffering of their neighbors. We were in a position to help and we were happy to do it.

The auto transport story was my answer to your assumption that I did not know how it felt to be prevented from accessing our own property. It was also intended to serve as an example of how some people choose to face adversity. We did what we could when we could the best way we knew how and did not sit around feeling sorry for ourselves over things around us over which we had no control. Clearing cars out of the road was the best help we had to offer.

I too spent a month sweating in the dark, eating cold cuts and so on, but I certainly did not decide to take my frustrations out on all the other folks who were going through the same thing, or much worse, resent them, or turn them into the enemy.

There was plenty of misery to go around. That is certainly evident by your reporting, so I feel no need to add to that. What I do not appreciate, though, is your twisting my words around in your incoherent lead-in line or your parting shot about the nobility of shooting people after dark. Those are your words, not mine.

Local News - Haiti?

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Solicitations for money are fundamentally different than solicitations for pity.

Is it the job of the local news to solicit money on behalf of another country?

Could it be instead just as exploitive as reality TV.

Could it be instead that they are trying to make themselves look good?

And the Dominican Republic is very wealthy and a tourist destination. They refuse Haitian immigration, they treat Haitians worse than dirt in the lowest jobs, no benefits for Haitian worker's children and the only thing they have ever done for Haitians is not turn away pregnant women in labor. They are allowed to receive medical care if they can make it across the border.

But something good will come from this for Haiti. They will have it better after this earthquake than they have ever had it before. They get to rebuild from scratch, all buildings up to code this time. They get an eagle eye on their government for the duration of the distribution of world funds. Haiti is about to be changed for the better, but that is from the people who are unloading the planes, not from the people crying on the couch.

The American Red Cross solicited 5 million dollars in 3 days from cell phone texts. They will use that money for any project they deem necessary, not necessarily for Haiti. And Visa? They get 3% of every donation for transaction fees.

Maybe cynicism offends some, but being naive offends the rest.

You been reading the Cheerios box again? - sm

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DR is very wealthy. Huh? As compared to who...Albania? Let's see. US GDP per capita is $45,800, DR GDP per capital is $9,208. Despite their historically tense relations with Haiti, nevertheless, DR was the first responder after the earthquake.

Assuming that your predictions about Haiti are feasible, it is a sad commentary indeed that it only took a 7.0 earthquake, near-total decimation of the capital, casualties likely to top 100,000, homelessness of 2+ million people, half of whom are children and untold stories of loss, hunger, disease, death and grief to get attention turned in that direction. .

The statements regarding soliitation of pity, reality TV and how cynacism and naivety are equal opportunity offenders are a little too incoherent for my pea-brain to absorb, but they do seem inappropriate at best.

If one has a practical skill to donate, do that - money is different

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The real heros are the people who can string electrical line and get the power back on. The ones who set up a tent on the hospital grounds and helped handle the overflow from the ER. The ones who open their homes for a refugee who just wants the heck out of there.

Giving money will probably result in it going into the wrong hands. The poor will never see it. The local politician good old boy network might get some of it, but they'll probably turn around and use it to rebuild the luxury resorts, not the housing for the poor.

I can guarantee that the DR is not rich, far from it - I spent a vacation there before

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My husband was there on business. I asked for a place with a pool. Driving through the town after landing I was hoping to get a place with a roof. The children stand on the streets and beg, houses are shacks. You really do not know what you are talking about to say it is rich, far from it.

Aid provided 80 nations off US media's radar sceen. - Reporting is distinctly "American." nm

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Haiti - Vikefan

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I feel terrible for those people. Imagine how you'd feel in their shoes. And those poor babies.... It's not like they asked for this to happen. Oh, wait - ask Pat Robertson (jerk)

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Uh oh, I think somebody needs a nap:) Well, this little boy is much cuter than Ted Cruz, but the behavior is familiar. His mom says he needs to work on his platform, but I think maybe the GOP/Tea Party will want him "as is". He's not much younger than Mark Rubio, either. He says he's upset because HE wanted to play with all the toys. But it's so cute when they're little, isn't it? For those who can't access the video through link below, here's the ...

Jul 19, 2016
If we haven't learned yet not to be drawn into the power struggl in which the parties seek to make us their political pawns, we must learn it now before it's too late. It's a more perilous world than we have ever known before, and perverts and liars cannot save this nation. #NEVER_PERVERTS_NEVER_LIARS ...

Oct 11, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INRV9Jvlkn8&feature=player_detailpage#t=2 ...