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Army wedding moved at the last minute because of Obama's

Posted: Dec 29, 2014

Let's hear some rousing applause for our president who does not always put himself first. The Sounds of Silence.

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Here's the thing... - clyde

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BO knew the time/date/location of the wedding because he had been invited to it, and declined to attend. Then, 24 hours before the wedding, the bride is notified that she has to move the wedding because BO would be golfing. I don't know who I hate more at this point...BO for his lack of common decency, or the golf course for making accommodations for BO when they already had payment in full for the wedding that had been planned for months.

I think it's funny when somebody dislikes a post that is a factual statement - clyde

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Here's the deal, Clyde - Empirelady

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The couple knew full well going in that their reservations could be cancelled at any point due to either weather or the President's schedule. They went to plan B, and they weren't put out one bit by it, that coming from their own statements which I just heard, out of their own mouths. They were quite thrilled to speak to the President on their wedding day, in fact. Now, those are the facts.

What astounds me is this kind of BS that keeps getting posted over and over and over, when in reality we should ALL be concerned with what is going on in D.C. under our noses (both sides of the aisle), in that big corporations and politicians are robbing this country blind, with impunity. Does the general population see what is going on there? No, they're too busy squabbling over golf courses, women's rights issues that were decided long, long ago, among many other things. It's a smoke screen for which we are all paying dearly. Well, except for banks, big corps, and politicians...

How about we concentrate on exposing what the government is allowing to happen to this country, i.e. running it into the ground. Both sides of the aisle...

Narcissistic, self-important BO - Facing facts

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Yes, let's face facts. If the man had any integrity, honor or compassion for anyone other than himself, he would have stepped aside for an hour or two for a freaking golf game. This brings to mind how he couldn't wait to get onto the links after the ISIS beheading. BO is cold, callous and uncaring. Those are the facts. Otherwise, I agree with everything else you said.

Meh... - Empirelady

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You just described about 98% of politicians in D.C. He's no different than the majority of the others.

Again, what say we concentrate on what is really going on in D.C., both sides of the aisle, instead of this petty stuff? It seems so many others are far more concerned about this than the couple are. Time to move on. Let's move it to something that is actually important.

Free will. - SM

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Everyone is entitled to post whatever they wish. Some of this may be for entertainment, some not. Peace.

Of course they are - Empirelady

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I'm merely pointing out the obvious, that the politicians, media, et. al. are continually throwing out smoke screens with these faux "crises and issues" where there are none in order to deflect what is really going on, and suggesting we discuss something that actually has merit and could actually address some of the real problems this nation has. That would be my free will. :)

Why discuss it at all? - clyde

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It doesn't matter what I say on this board or in my home or my community, and due to the state I reside in it doesn't even matter what opinion I have at the polls. The majority wins.

As a white, divorced, middle-aged mother of 3 who has been gainfully employed and paying taxes since 1987, and who supports our military and law enforcement, I am the minority. My voice doesn't matter. It only matters in affecting your life today as I come onto this board out of boredom and express my opinion about something I cannot change, something that will likely only get worse with the passing of the seasons and the baton being handed off to to the next president, and the one after that.

Majority wins. And in the state of America today, that majority is mixed-race professional students and their parents who don't support the military or law enforcement, people who will be up in arms if you try to take away their daily marijuana or their disability checks and food stamps, people who believe in, support, and demonstrate for reverse discrimination as a means to get even with our horrible past.

You are likely also not in the majority, but this is who the majority is, like it or not. So why do we come here and talk about things like weddings and golf games and the style of Michelle's sweater? Because we're bored and frustrated and tired of being pawns in the greatest presidential tragedy in U.S. history. Us speaking on these things doesn't change that they happened (and will happen again). It's just sport. But don't worry...I would never force you to be a part of this sport on your wedding day. I have much more integrity than that. :)

You wrote: - sm

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"And in the state of America today, that majority is mixed-race professional students and their parents who don't support the military or law enforcement, people who will be up in arms if you try to take away their daily marijuana or their disability checks and food stamps, people who believe in, support, and demonstrate for reverse discrimination as a means to get even with our horrible past."

Do you have any FACTS to back up your assertion that the "majority is mixed-race professional students"?

Also, I, too, am a single mother. Though my daughter is almost 41 years old, I was a single mother after I was divorced and she was 8 years old.

I'll be 62 in March, and I receive Social Security Disability benefits due to being diagnosed with a terminal disease. I may have a year or two left, but I feel changes occurring in my body and might not live that long.

I LOVED my job, and when it got to the point that I simply could NOT work any more, I applied for disability benefits.

I had worked for 41 years of my life, was ALWAYS employed by a minimum of 2 jobs at one time to help with raising my daughter when I was raising her.

I won't apologize to you or anyone else for that fact. I have ALWAYS been employed and never received any kind of unemployment compensation, workmen's comp, etc.

Since Social Security disability hearings take so long to occur, the State was generous enough to LOAN me $200.00 a month, with the same amount in food stamps, as well. After I had my SSDI hearing and won, EVERY SINGLE PENNY of the $200 monthly stipend was REPAID to them, with the money taken out of my check before I even saw it!

I don't know what kind of retirement fund you have, but I couldn't afford to save any money because raising children is expensive.

Before making absurd generalizations about people you don't know who might not be as well off as you, please consider the following:

If your health is good and allowing you to work, then consider yourself very lucky.

You're right: The majority wins. That's our country, and that's how it works. Lately, though, it looks like politicians are bought and paid for from outside various billionaires. I didn't like to see so many Republican wins in the last election, but the majority rules, and there it is.

It looks like we have come to an agreement - clyde

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As you said: "Lately, though, it looks like politicians are bought and paid for from outside various billionaires."

My thoughts and concerns expressed right there in your words, though I'd say money has played a significant (possibly sole) role in our government leaders predating the last election.

Wow. - Empirelady

Free will. - SM

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Everyone is entitled to post whatever they wish. Some of this may be for entertainment, some not. Peace.

Really? - Marcus

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You are a complete idiot if you actually believe that "he couldn't wait to get onto the links after the ISI beheading." Think about it! Do you REALLY believe that? Can you possibly be that stupid, uneducated, uninformed, low information? It scares me to think there are people in our country who can be that ridiculously idiotic.

Wonder how many army weddings never happened during - Bush/Cheney war games

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(speaking of low life) and No-Bid Halliburton's $40 billion plunder? Maybe we should ask Rand Paul, who hasn't hesitated to voice his "concerns" about Iraq War profiteering schemes, but nary a word about soldiers who never made it to the altar.

Deflection-the argument people use when they have - no argument

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Perhaps we could also talk about how BO has cut our troops' rations to 2 meals a day, 1 of which is a cold meal they have to pick up on their way out of the DFAC after they eat their hot meal?

Or how about how one of my sons and the guys in his platoon had no way to clean their weapons in Afghanistan because they were given nothing to clean them with. They had been using their own T-shirts until I sent them a care package with of rags. Why didn't they have their supplies? Cutbacks. The rags cost me $20 and $16 to mail and lasted them 7 months in the field. That's less than a bag of BO's balls, er, golf balls that is.

Or how about how we've been told by the media that our troops are out of Afghanistan...but we're not. Oops! Did I let the cat out of the bag? Yes, we are still there.

#MarineMom #ArmyMom

Love your post! - NPC

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It amuses me that they still use deflection as often as they do, particularly since we have pointed it out to them so many times.

May God bless your sons and their platoons and keep them safe. I thank them for their service, and I thank you for your sacrifice as well.

Contrasting the impact two gaming presidents had on - army weddings

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is not deflection from the OP topic, but discussing rations, hot vs cold meals, budget cuts, care packages, and reports of end-of-war declarations (like W's 2003 Mission Accomplished! speech) certainly qualify as rhetorical diversion. I brought up weddings that never happened because one of those hit close to home. My son's best friend, who I knew since he was in diapers, never made it to his nuptials. His fiance is still trying to pick up the pieces and move on. THAT was the first thing that came to mind when I read the OP.

Big difference - clyde

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My sons chose to join the military, fully understanding that it may cost them their lives. As a parent, it's my worst fear but I know they are prepared and they didn't go into the service blindly. Every casualty, every person who comes back with physical, emotional and mental scars affects me deeply. I hate that you know of someone who was a casualty of war. My heart goes out to his family and his fiance.

There is a big difference between knowing the risk of war and still enlisting (it wasn't like your friend was drafted into the military) and not getting married because you are a very unfortunate casualty of war, and having your entire wedding changed because the President decided to play golf at the exact time and place he knew you had planned. It's worse because he did this to one of our nation's heroes, but I would feel the same about this regardless of whose wedding he decided to affect needlessly because he wanted to play with his balls.

Our military have far too few joys in their lives, far too many unknowns. The fact that this president put his wants before allowing someone who will possibly give everything before his own needs speaks volumes to his character.

You nailed it re his character. - He has none.

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It becomes more and more apparent with each passing day and each passing incident.

Excellent post Clyde. You deserve 100 likes - Mrs. Tingles

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What his heiness did was wrong. Period and his supporters who think it's totally okay to screw someone over on their wedding day are also wrong. If Bush or Cheney did this to someone they'd be screaming for them to be hung at the gallows.

Several posts below have - thoroughly addressed

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the misinformation and half-truths percolating throughout the thread all day. No need to add anything further regarding the events surrounding this non-story and its attendant indignant tale spinning. I would only add that regardless of whether my friend enlisted or was drafted, his death deserves more than a casual he-asked-for-it dismissal embedded within the context of another trite phony outrage hit piece on a slow post-holiday news day.

He has no character, no soul. He is empty. - nm

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nm

Casualty - CAM

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"having your entire wedding changed because the President decided to play golf at the exact time and place he knew you had planned"

Has any evidence been given that the president actually knew in advance that his golf schedule conflicted with the wedding? I rather doubt that any president is concerned with such minutia. In fact, I strongly hope not! He tells his people he wants to golf, they schedule it. He doesn't keep track of the time and location for every invitation he gets either. A president has much more important matters to be concerned with! If you think he's making the phone calls to arrange such things himself, well, think again.

"It's worse because he did this to one of our nation's heroes"

In what ways are they heroes? I must have missed some nugget of news...

I believe Bush only ever shot Cheney and he was already married - sm

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So to my knowledge the "gaming" Republicans didn't prevent any marriages through their gaming. Only BO.

Republican led Sequestration has cut - military spending

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not President Obama.

Details, details! Sounds of Silence - are deafening

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when faced with this reality.

Recent hit 12/2014 addressing dems trying - to restore sequestration cuts

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http://www.defensenews.com/article/20130313/DEFREG02/303130021/Senate-Democrats-8217-Budget-Would-Halve-500B-DoD-Sequestration-Cuts

The law is the law. Closing gaping tax loopholes is a tax hike - in disguise and

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any new revenues should go toward lowering tax rates...corporate and uber rates, no doubt...NOT paying down the deficit. LOL. Thanks for posting this useful article, best remembered next time the GOP starts squealing about "Obama's" deficit or moralizing about bare bones defense spending cuts.

Not true - x

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Then your problem is with Congress, not - sm

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with the President, since they control the purse strings and decides which department gets what. And, as Rummy is famous for saying, "You go to war with the army you have, not the army you want."

As far as any "argument," I find it disingenuous that there are soooooooooo many people on this board who claim to feel soooooooooo bad for the bride and groom, when even THEY weren't bothered a bit by it. In fact, they were very excited that they had the opportunity to speak with the President.

THEY don't have a problem with how their wedding plans were altered (which, by the way, they were completely aware might happen).

It seems it's only the Republicans who are upset about this wedding. The couple is just fine with it, and I wish them a long, loving, successful marriage.

Sounds like they were trying preemptory - action by inviting the President

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Perhaps he doesn't go to every wedding he is invited to. If he did, he would be a very busy man. Everyone would invite the President, except for the people on this board, apparently.

From what I understood the contract with the golf course clearly states that they would be given 24 hour notice if their wedding engagement would be preempted by a presidential visit, and this is written in every contract. They knew he would be in Hawaii during their wedding date, so they invited him. He declined. The golf course cancelled the wedding.

On the upside, they apparently were quite happy with their event taking place at their commanding officer's home right off the 16th hole (once they got over the scurrying to make some adjustments to location).

This was not completely unexpected, but has a good flare for those who want to make a deal of it.

would you want to have your wedding at your - boss' house

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They couldn't let loose and have the kind of fun they wanted. And they can't be honest about not having the wedding they wanted because the husband would suffer the consequences.

Not much difference as this is a - Marine Corps golf course

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Might even get to cut loose more since it was on a bit more private property, but they are military personnel so there are rules and decorum they must follow anyway.

I dunno. Perhaps, depends on how nice the - boss's house is.

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nm

It was a prettier venue and after President - Obama was made

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aware of situation and personally called and wished the bride and groom congratulations, it made their day.

Exactly! - sm

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This is a story they can tell their children and grandchildren, and they seemed very, VERY excited with the opportunity to speak personally with the President.

It's so hard, though, for them to NOT blame Obama for every past, present and future action that happens.

Still nothing but sour grapes. I really enjoy this board, but it's going to be a L-O-N-G 2 years!

He didn't book it himself, and he found out - about the wedding after the fact.

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And if that's all anyone has to gripe about these days, I say they must be doing pretty darned well.

Obama Golf and Wedding - TerrySanDiego

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You did not see the whole story. The couple ended up with a better place and view and were glad to be noticed by the President... Facts sure get in the way, don't they?

Anything to stir the pot and insult the - integrity of President Obama

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Goes for some. Most maligned president ever!

Don't confuse them with FACTS!!! LOL! - nm

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:-)

"Blessing in disguise" according to groom - apology included

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Apparently, the President talked with them for so long, they wanted to invite him to the reception, but he respectfully declined, stating that it would mess things up too much with security issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nj0tTYo2Ik

The same security issues mess a last minute schedule change - would have inevitably created.

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No brainer for some, inconceivable for others.

Security issues to change venue for two Captains - in military???

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NONE. No security issues whatsoever for them to change their venue.

Security issues for the President of the United States to attend any portion of this wedding would require magnetic wanding, some background checks and a full staff of secret service "discretely" in attendance.

No brainer for some, inconceivable for others.

Oh, still stuck on the fact he shouldn't have been scheduled to play golf to begin with. That ship set sail without President Obama. Someone else made that decision, and, once again, the golf course is his when his schedule wants it. Stated in the contract.

No. Security issues a last minute change in POTUS schedule - would create.

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Chill. I couldn't agree with you more.

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