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Posted: Oct 24, 2013

Does Army Consider Christians, Tea Party, a Terror Threat? by Todd StarnesTodd Starnes // Oct 23 2013 // 5:27pm Soldiers attending a pre-deployment briefing at Fort Hood say they were told that evangelical Christians and members of the Tea Party were a threat to the nation and that any soldier donating to those groups would be subjected to punishment under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. A soldier who attended the Oct. 17th briefing told me the counter-intelligence agent in charge of the meeting spent nearly a half hour discussing how evangelical Christians and groups like the American Family Association were “tearing the country apart.” Michael Berry, an attorney with the Liberty Institute, is advising the soldier and has launched an investigation into the incident. “The American public should be outraged that the U.S. Army is teaching our troops that evangelical Christians and Tea Party members are enemies of America, and that they can be punished for supporting or participating in those groups,” said Berry, a former Marine Corps JAG officer. “These statements about evangelicals being domestic enemies are a serious charge.” The soldier told me he fears reprisals and asked not to be identified. He said there was a blanket statement that donating to any groups that were considered a threat to the military and government was punishable under military regulations. “My first concern was if I was going to be in trouble going to church,” the evangelical Christian soldier told me. “Can I tithe? Can I donate to Christian charities? What if I donate to a politician who is a part of the Tea Party movement?” Another soldier who attended the briefing alerted the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty. That individual’s recollections of the briefing matched the soldier who reached out to me. “I was very shocked and couldn’t believe what I was hearing,” the soldier said. “I felt like my religious liberties, that I risk my life and sacrifice time away from family to fight for, were being taken away.” And while a large portion of the briefing dealt with the threat evangelicals and the Tea Party pose to the nation, barely a word was said about Islamic extremism, the soldier said. “Our community is still healing from the act of terrorism brought on by Nidal Hasan – who really is a terrorist,” the soldier said. “This is a slap in the face. “The military is supposed to defend freedom and to classify the vast majority of the military that claim to be Christian as terrorists is sick.” Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, tells me the Pentagon is pushing anti-Christian propaganda. “On the very base that was the site of mass murder carried out by a radicalized Muslim soldier, it is astonishing that it is evangelical groups that are being identified as a ‘threat,’” he said. “Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel must immediately intervene to stop this march against the rights and freedom of our soldiers.” The soldier said they were also told that the pro-life movement is another example of “radicalization.” “They said that evangelical Christians protesting abortions are the mobilization stage and that leads to the bombing of abortion clinics,” he said, recalling the discussion. An Army spokesman at the Pentagon tells me they do not maintain or publish a list of organizations considered extremist. “None of these slides [shown at the briefing] were produced by the Army, but by soldiers who included information found during an Internet search,” the spokesman said. He said commanders and other leaders were cautioned that they should not use “lists of extremists, hate groups, radical factions or the like compiled by any outside non-governmental groups or organizations for briefings, command presentations, or as a short cut to determining if a group or activity is considered to be extremist.” Meanwhile, the public affairs office at Fort Hood is denying the soldiers' allegations. “The allegations you are asking about were brought to the attention of the Fort Hood leadership immediately and a (sic) inquiry is occurring,” read a statement from Tom Rheinlander, the public affairs director at Fort Hood. “At this time, initial information gathered about the training and what you claim occurred is not substantiated by unit leadership and soldiers present at this training venue.” I sent the public affairs officer additional questions about the specific content of the briefing but he declined to respond. But this is not the first time an Army briefing has labeled evangelicals as extremists. Last April an Army Reserve briefing classified Evangelical Christianity and Catholicism as “religious extremism.” In a letter to Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-Colo.), Secretary of the Army John McHugh said the briefing in April was an isolated incident and the material used was not sanctioned by the Army. McHugh said it was a “misguided attempt to explain that extremism is not limited to a single religion.” Two weeks ago, several dozen active duty troops at Camp Shelby in Mississippi, were told the American Family Association, a well-respected Christian ministry, should be classified as a domestic hate group because it advocates for traditional family values. Again, the military called it an isolated incident with a trainer using material that was not sanctioned by the military. That explanation is wearing thin with American Christians. “How much longer can the Army claim no knowledge or responsibility for these things?” Berry asked. “These repeated incidents show either that this training was directed from Army leadership at the Pentagon, or else the Army has a real discipline and leadership problem on its hands because a bunch of rogue soldiers are teaching this nonsense.” The most recent allegations at Fort Hood have drawn sharp rebuke from religious liberty groups around the nation. “Why is the Army engaged in these anti-Christian training propaganda briefings?” asked Perkins, himself a veteran of the Marine Corps. “The only explanation is that this is a deliberate effort of the Obama administration to intimidate and separate soldiers from Christian groups that they support and that support them.” Ron Crews, executive director of the Chaplain Alliance, called the military’s behavior dishonorable. “Far from mere ‘isolated incidents,’ as the Army has dismissed previous occurrences, this latest incident demonstrates a pattern and practice of Army briefings identifying mainstream religions, such as Evangelical Christianity, Judaism, and Catholicism, as examples of ‘religious extremism’ similar to Al Qaeda, Hamas and the Ku Klux Klan,” he told me. Perkins said it’s time for the Pentagon to “ensure that instructors carry out their role to train our troops to defend our freedom, and not push anti-Christian propaganda.” ;

Ah, another "what some people are listening to" piece. - How bizarre that some WANT to believe this stuff.n

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article posted below regarding right wing's desire for propaganda - is very interesting

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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/a-soldier-criticizes-his-army-comrades-tea-party-ideology/280788/

Seriously, there is a kernel of truth to this. Dominionist officers - and soldiers whose first loyalty is to God,

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as they believe it and not the Constitution they swore their oath to defend, believe it is their duty to help replace our constitutional republic with a theocracy.

Unfortunately, they have grown enough in numbers that their activities have to be paid attention to. They reflect a wave of dominionist thought in this country, and others, that has built through the last century, cultivated by decades of hard constant endeavor by Christian fascist groups while normal people go about their business. Is their presence in the military and in government offices enough to be scared of? No, but it's reached the point where it has to be taken seriously.

The fact is, many Dominionist groups, in and out of the military are talking and planning the permanent overthrow of our democracy. Some people like to pretend the United States is already like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. If we were anything like that, this practice of free speech and free practice of religion would have lead to mass arrests and executions long ago.

Instead, since all citizens, including military, have the right to practice their religion and to say what they think, these want-to-be-traitors in the military and civilian are not only not arrested, but examples of this stuff can be seen most days on TV -- and every day in thousands of posts on line. We even have organized groups exercising their democratic freedoms by planning and promising to overthrow the government. Anyone here can join one. Talking sedition is not suppressed, planning sedition is just a form of free speech, progress to genuine action would be.

And, yes, the military is using classes to educate its personnel about this activity so that they would be able to recognize the signs if men and women wearing the uniform of the United States were ever to try to turn talk into action.

And no, the military is not telling anyone they cannot practice their religion within the bounds of the oath they took to protect and preserve the Constitution of the United States. We don't do that.

Don't worry, they took an oath to the Constitution, - not to a man. The recent

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recent ousting of 10 or so top military brass is an ominous sign. Something evil is brewing.

I made it up to Todd (Christmas Under Attack) Starnes, and then stopped - reading.

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Lemme guess how this article goes... now the Army is picking on poor Christians (and TPers).

What's next?!? The Army forcing "holiday" trees on the troops?!?! It's Obama's fault!

Funny, that's exactly what I do when I see something - linked from The Atlantic. nm

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no msg

that's a pity - sm

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I mean, you can agree or disagree with their viewpoint, but to compare the journalistic integrity of Fox with The Atlantic speaks for itself.
Exactly my thought. Can't read the moderate Atlantic, - widely respected for quality reporting? nm
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I post from The Atlantic precisely because it's moderate, - to offer a reliable middle ground. nm
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It is now moderably liberal, but interesting at times. - They seem to cater to
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people who are uncomfortable with being committed to a political philosophy; hence moderate.

They became more PC when Michael Kelly died.
Respectfully disagree. :) Tackling topics and facts off limits to - conservative journalism makes them SEEM more
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liberal than they are simply by comparison, a problem all moderate publications, and NPR and PBS, have had since the right started moving so far to the right 3 decades ago now (and is STILL moving).

I'm a liberal and read liberal publications also. I have no trouble seeing a difference.

Just take a look at the graph in the link below, which finds that Republicans are currently the most conservative they've been in a century.

Another fun one: Obamacare Could Lead To - Gun Confiscations, Concentration Camps SM

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"Responding to Solomon’s claim that “the Obama administration is working to disarm every veteran” and will use Obamacare to “literally take away the rights of every American to have a firearm," Pratt alleged that the administration is spearheading “backdoor gun control.”

“They are doing it to the whole country, they field tested it on veterans, and now it’s the whole country,” Pratt said. “We are looking at a major assault on the right to keep and bear arms, it is reminiscent of Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, where they used doctors as part of their torture routines and got people sent to the camps for improvement of their mental health.”

The rest and video at link below.

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