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US Army and UPS v. USPS
Posted: Aug 10, 2012
I don't know how long it takes to learn this, but apparently when you ship things to soldiers at US bases, it is REALLY BAD to use the good ole federal US Postal Service.
My nephew is at Ft Sill. I sent him a laptop via USPS Priority mail on Monday.
They are still waiting to "give it" to him. Apparently he simply does not just get his mail as a normal civilian would. The officers can hold on to it as long as they wish.
Now I know. They only have control over UPS packages, and at a charge of $5- to them per package.
This totally sucks for him. I'm sorry I did it this way originally, I hate UPS. But still, I feel the army's holding my package to him is a VIOLATION OF MY RIGHTS.
Has anyone else had this kind of problem. I hope he gets it before his 11 weeks training are over and he ships out to who knows where. There are apparently on-line training courses he wants to take to back up his army courses.
THIS REALLY STINKS.
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It is very unlikely - that there is
[ In Reply To ..]any kind of conspiracy among "the officers" to keep packages randomly from soldiers in training. This has nothing to do with you, and no one is violating your rights.
If your nephew is in basic training, it is very likely that he is not permitted to have a laptop computer while he is in training. The purpose of basic training is to turn a civilian into a soldier, and any kind of distraction is not just discouraged but restricted. The same applies for many post-basic training courses. When I was in basic training (admittedly in the pre-laptop era) we were not even allowed to have books. The only book we could have was a Bible. We were expected to be focused entirely on the process of learning to function in a military environment.
Your nephew will get his laptop when he is finished with his training. It is very likely that he knew all along that he would not be permitted to have one while in training.
Very informative answer, HOWEVER... - AB
[ In Reply To ..]no need for the judgment and snideness of the last sentence. To the OP, what a wonderfully generous aunt you are. Your nephew is lucky to have you in his life.
There was no judgement or snideness in that post - Soldier
[ In Reply To ..]Generosity is great in the right circumstances. This is not one of them. Ignorance of the circumstances can be forgiven, but let's not go overboard with paranoia and accusations that the aunt's rights were violated. Auntie has a right to send anything she wants, but nephew agreed when he signed up that he was not getting anything from home for the duration. If she is getting any other kind of message from him, the nephew has a behavior problem.
I will add that the reason for the laptop, some online courses he needs to complete, is bogus. If he needs to complete online courses, the Army HAS provided the means to do that.
I cannot imagine how any trainee could have time to use a laptop. He may not even have a secure place to keep it. Considering that, they are doing him a favor by securing it until he finishes.
And, just for the record, officers do not sit around plotting harassment. That is a false stereotype derived from TV and movies. What they and the NCO cadre are doing is ensuring that your nephew completes his training successfully. If he does not, he will be joining the ranks of the unemployed. If he completes less than optimally, he may join the ranks of the disabled, or even the dead, taking others with him. There is far more at stake here than you know.
No snideness at all. I think sometimes posters - sm
[ In Reply To ..]just want to start stuff.
He is THROUGH his basic training. - L&L
[ In Reply To ..]He is waiting to start his regular 11-week training. Unfortunately he had a Staphylococcus infection his first week and got behind. Thus his regular classes do not start until 08/20/12. He has been put on various duties around the fort (guard duty, escort duty, janitor duty, etc.) until then. He is ALLOWED TO have this stuff now.
YES IT IS MY RIGHT GO GIVE HIM THIS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
They go through it regardless of how you send it. - My husband has been
[ In Reply To ..]in the Navy for 17 years and people still go through his packages when he is overseas. They even sent one back from Africa because I sent body wash and they don't allow liquids on the plane, so once it got to the embassy in Africa, they put it back on a plane to come back to me. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but....
In training, they are not allowed certain things. I know that they can't have candy in basic training, so I am betting that a computer is on that list. It is not a violation of your rights; you are expected to know what he can and can't have. If you send him something that is prohibited, he will not get it. That is the way it is. He signed on for that.
It will not make any difference if you send it UPS. The USPS has nothing to do with this.
HE IS THROUGH HIS GD BASIC TRAINING - L&L
[ In Reply To ..]Went to his graduation in July. Should have just taken it then. He's just killing time after 5pm until his regular training starts. He KNOWS he can have it, he has his cell phone and all that stuff back. He is out of the barracks and essenitally in a dormitory. He did not ask for it. I offered it.
Anyway, thanks to the last individual for the information. I should have knwon. All my uncles were career military.
Wow---thanks for the nasty reply - And, by the way, your
[ In Reply To ..]rights are not being violated. The world is not against you. I am not against you. I was actually trying to help and you're being nasty.
But is he still in basic training? - nm
[ In Reply To ..]x
Still doesn't have it, roommate using Macbook Pro - L&L
[ In Reply To ..]I'm buying yet another one and sending it UPS this time. Good thing I earn so much money as an MT.
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