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Women with no respect


Posted: Jul 5, 2014

I'll try not to make this too long, but would love advice.  Hubby and brother not very close, but my daughter and BIL's brother are best of friends/cousins.  BIL raised daughter himself for years and about 6 months ago met a girl who he moved in and now she raises the daughter while BIL works on the road.  BIL likes the fact that the new girl takes full charge and he can kind of just come and go or whatever, work all of the time, not deal with family life, I think.  So, new girl is the typical several kids by several different men, dated two of BIL's friends before they got together, man jumps a lot, doesn't work, just lives off of them an and seems to be looking for the next best thing.  I have only been around the new girl a couple of times and she never spoke to me or hubby.  Just went and sat in her room, not sure why.  Well, new girl is quite immature, takes the 13-year-old step-daughter "riding around" late at night, blaring music, etc, acting somewhat like a teen herself.  Well, niece was at my house a couple of weeks ago and the new girl comes by to pick her up (11:00 at night) and asks if my daughter can come too (My daughter is 10).  I was in bed actually and my daughter came and asked and I said No, it is late and she doesn't need to go anywhere.  Well, hubby was in kitchen and the girl asked my niece to call hubby outside.  He came out and she starts asking him why I didn't like her?!?!  Hubby told her I don't even know her and we just didn't want our daughter going anywhere at 11 at night.  

So, then a few days later niece called hubby's phone from the new girl's phone and asked hubby if she could come over.  He said he would check with me to see what plans we had.  I got hubby's phone to call niece back and just hit redial, which called the new girls phone.  When she answered, she did so in a flirty, sweet voice and as soon as I said hey and told her who I was, her entire tone changed.  I thought it was wierd, but once I got off of the phone I realized she thought it was my hubby calling her back, not me.

So, we go out to the house a couple of days ago to pick up niece and new girls comes out to the car and starts walking towards driver's side and saw I was driving and then goes to passenger side.  She tells my hubby that she made him a cd and she can make him more, just let her know what bands he wants.  She says not ONE WORD to me, not hi, nothing.  I don't even comprehend how a woman can be so disrespectful to walk up and talk to a married man, wife sitting there and not even smile my way.  I was so mad, I was about to seriously give her a piece of my mind, but I KNOW for a 100% fact that if I do that, she is immature enough that she is going to stop niece from coming over and that is my daughter's best friend.  I am going to hurt the kids by saying anything.  

Hubby pointed out to me the awkwardness of everything, I didn't even have to say anything to him, but his philosophy is no matter how much she flirts, it wouldn't work, so no need to worry about it.  My philosopy is I trust my husband 100%, but it is VERY HARD to sit there and let a woman disrespect me that way!  Last night niece was over and came to our room and told us the girl had called and said to let my hubby know she was bringing him another cd.  I mean, we didn't even ASK for one, she just randomly came over to bring him one.  I told niece, very nicely, that hubby uses his IPOD for music and we didn't want to trouble the girl, so just let her know we really didn't need anymore cds.  I honestly should say something to her myself, but I am just afraid it will hurt the kids, due to my frustration and I will probably lash out more than I should.

Anybody have any suggestions?

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Sounds like this girl has made a living out of using - sex to get what she wants,

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even though your husband isn't encouraging it she probably won't stop. Does she do it in front of BIL? That is disrespectful. I guess she never learned boundaries. Just talking to your husband will help.

Sounds to me like - sm

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...this girl has a serious personality disorder, not to mention being passive-aggressive.

Probably, though, she has frightfully low self esteem, no self respect, and she's afraid of you. Girls who grow up without role models don't know how to act around women and see them only as the competition or the enemy. Maybe you should try killing her with kindness.

if you trust your husband why worry about - ddd

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little girl games

My take - sm

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Here's the problem, IMO. You're expecting this gal to play by the rules, and she clearly doesn't even know what the rules are. I think your husband should make an exaggerated effort to bring you into every conversation that involves her...he should refuse to allow her to isolate him in any way. I think men laugh this stuff off (and deep down probably enjoy the attention), but it's no laughing matter. If she speaks to him at all, he should excuse himself, go get you, put his arm around you, take you over to where the conversation is taking place, introduce you ("You know my wife, Mary, don't you?"), and ensure that you're acknowledged each and every time before he allows the conversation to continue. If you're not available, he should excuse himself and leave.

Your hubby may think all of this is ridiculous, but if he does this, she'll get bored and quit targeting him. It may seem like harmless flirting to him, but, even if he's not vulnerable to her manipulation, he's playing with fire.

I'm no expert, but you and your husband are going to have to set clear boundaries where she's concerned. The sooner, the better.

She has no status so she - Grubs what she can

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The BIL has not married her, so she is just really a live-in nanny with room and board who also gives sex to the BIL. No wonder she is insecure. I think she gets all the attention from men that she can to reassure herself that she is "hot" or whatever since that is her bread-and-butter for getting through life. I would not wait for your husband or BIL or anyone to do anything. I'd just casually greet her every time you encounter her and maybe say a sentence or two. Regarding the car situation, I would have leaned over while she was talking to your husband and have said, "Hey, Mary, what's up?" or something. Establish yourself as the alpha female.

Shut down this Lolita immediately - nn

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. . . she is going to stop niece from coming over and that is my daughter's best friend. I am going to hurt the kids by saying anything.

My first reaction is you're going to "hurt the kids" immeasurably more by not saying anything. Might I suggest that you not allow your loved ones to associate on any level with this little Minx, as much as you can help it. She us obviously after your husband and horribly disrespecting you. Remember this ancient truism: "evil companions corrupt good morals." Best of luck to you.

From my experience, I would look.... - More into that.

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I went through something that sounds painfully similar. I know you say you trust your husband 100%, but SOMETHING has this person feeling comfortable enough to speak to your husband however she chooses right in front of you with no fear of doing so.

Years ago, I had a fiance and he and I went to dinner with a mutual friend and another girl the mutual friend invited. Both my fiance and I shared small talk with this female we had met that night and that was it. Well, fast forward a few months fiance and I go to a party of the mutual friend and this girl is there and she comes out to greet us and begins talking to my fiance like they are best of friends and barely acknowledges me. I found it EXTREMELY odd that the two of us had only met this girl one time, as far as I knew, and now all of a sudden they were this close. It made me start asking questions and I found out the two of them had started talking and ultimately sleeping together, so that ended that.

I am not saying that is what is happening in your case, but there has to be some reason why this girl is so comfortable that neither you or your husband will say anything about her inappropriate behavior. I would definitely investigate into it more.

Did you post about this girl before??? - Deja vu

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If not, why does it seem that there are so many of them???

explain the following to your niece in no uncertain terms - sm

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Tell your niece that adults do not pass personal messages through children. And then - in no uncertain terms - tell this woman the same thing.

The next time she approaches your husband and ignores you, call her on it immediately.

If she has the power to separate your niece and your daughter, your BIL is the problem, not she. Address it with him.

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