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Here is what I would ask all women, and hope that

Posted: Oct 21, 2012

First, please use birth control whether it means that "you" have to "shoulder the burden" or not.

Yes, it would be "reasonable", "fair", or "right" for men to share this responsibility with you, but please - LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD where a lot of men have absolutely NO control over their penises.

Second, please come to the point that you truly comprehend the incalculable value of EVERY human life.

If, for instance, I could tell you that the human being you are sending to the garbage heap was fated to discover the cure for breast cancer - what WOULD you do?

Third, reach out for assistance and help. There ARE resources for women who REFUSE to murder the human beings they carry.

Fourth, do not think that this is a decision WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES. I am a sad testimonial to the fact that this is not true.

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Thank you for a such a precise post - See the "dislike"-guess that one's

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supporting baby killing. Whether we like it or not, there are consequences of every action. Unfortunately, for so many it is easier to kill a child, than daily deal with raising that child. It is so much easier to destroy their indiscretion, than to deal with it (save your liberal outrage - very, very, very few abortions are performed to save the mother's life or due to rape/incest - so, your bogus argument of that rings hollow). So many in society put no value at all on family anymore, which I think is a big part of the problem.

I know - that there

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is such a thing as reincarnation. We choose to be here. Most of the world believes this too.

If the mother aborts, that soul will get another chance to be born, and often to the same woman.

Really, don't worry about it. This is the planet of free will, choice, and grace.

No one has ever done anything wrong. We all go to the same place. There is only one god, one source, one universal intelligence that loves all equally, especially since we are all that one.

What a crack pot idea - Don't believe any of what - you posted, but if

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that floats your boat. Personally, I'm not worried, other than for your mental health. Pretty strange post.

Thank you for your post. - sm

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I happen to believe exactly what you believe, but, unlike some on this board, I wouldn't ever try to push my spirituality down the throats of the entire country.

Everyone should be able to believe in (or not) religion, spirituality, etc. without a government leader (in this case it's two, both Romney and Ryan) forcing their PERSONAL religious views down the throats of an entire country.

Add this to the crack pot post list (and factless) - ...

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They are not forcing their personal religious views down - GET A GRIP!!!! - The Sarge

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the throats of the entire country.

KNOCK OFF THE FEAR MONGERING!!!!!! AND !!!!!!

Not once in their campaign have they EVER tried to force their religious viewpoints down anyone's throat.

Obama is losing and now the lies and delusions are coming out. You really need to get a grip.

You are not alone - anon

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I believe this too.

Why is this on the politics board? - me

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Abortion is legal in this country. It's not murder. The majority of folks do not want to see it made illegal.

Abortion is legal in this country. - And it's still murder.

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All the rationalization in the world doesn't change that.

You the monitor? Not your say as to what is posted - P.S. Abortion IS murder

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Abortion is a political issue - Moderator

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Politicians have made abortion a political topic.

to those who want abortion made illegal... - sm

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Are you willing to pay for all those babies?

Are you okay with 25% of your paycheck being used to feed, raise, house, educate, support all those babies?

Are you even paying income taxes right now, or are you claiming your own kids as exemptions and then getting the EIC on top of that, so basically you're not paying any taxes at all? That said, how would you feel of the kid exemption was no longer available and the EIC was no longer available because the gov't needed the money to pay for "all those babies," so you now had 25% less income for yourself and your family in order to pay for all those babies?

BTW, an abortion is a whole lot cheaper than raising a child. THIS is why it's legal. The taxpayers don't want to pay to raise more bastard children anymore than we already are.

Furthermore, if you want to "save" those babies, then give your name and bank account number to every single abortion clinic, planned parenthood clinic, etc., all over the country and I'm sure those clinics and pregnant mothers will be happy to send you the bills for those kids.

And finally, if you balked at paying for "all those babies" in any tiny little way, even for a nanosecond, then you're a hypocrite. You want to control what someone else does, but you refuse to take responsibility for it.

Applause. I said the same thing down the board - sm

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And somebody's trying and failing to give me the business for it. What you post is only common sense, but some just won't get it.

BooHiss - You're "trying and failing" to pass Abortion off - as butterflies and sunshine

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Read all your posts and the responses. No common sense in what you posted. Just a strong desire to support the killig of helpless babies. THANK GOD I grew up in a family that had a very high value of life. You, not so much.

Guess you'll keep up your spin any way you can to help you sleep at night.

I do enjoy - sm

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all of your completely *** baseless assumptions about me. I could point exactly how many you've gotten wrong (hint: all of them) but your flailing is amusing me.

Seems OP right on target - Hearing the truth - seems hard for you :(

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to deal with.

Keep on assuming. Because you know what - that does.

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Seriously, folks - is this all you brought? Second-string foolery up in here tonight

"...very high value of life..." Really? - sm

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How much actual money have you sent? I'm not talking about tax dollars, I'm talking about how many checks you've actually sent to clinics, to hospitals, to pregnant/new mothers.

None. Not one single check to pay for someone else's child. You expect the gov't to do it. Well, where do you think that money comes from? THE TAXPAYER, and if you're claiming exemptions and then getting that money back PLUS the EIC, then YOU'RE NOT A TAXPAYER!

I, for one, am tired of paying for someone else's kids. How about valuing my life for a change!

Furthermore... - sm

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Are you willing to adopt all those babies, pay for someone else to adopt all those babies? No. You expect someone else to do it. You believe your responsibility ends with the picket sign "abortion is murder."

Speaking of "hypocrite" - PP gives you BC for FREE - THAT'S cheaper than abortion.

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Although you did it under your little "anonymousy" we all now know the price YOU put on a child's head. Thanks for clearing up the fact that a baby is nothing more than a price tag to you. Proud?

I'm tired of paying for others' children. Are you ready to cut that check? - nm

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It's not necessarily free. - RC

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I don't know if you've been to PP, but how it works is this:

People below a certain income get services free.

People above that mark (about $22k a year) pay, but they pay less than it would cost going to your primary care doctor and trying to get your insurance to pay for it.

One of my biggest problems with Romney is that he would defund this program, which theoretically would block access for birth control for a significant amount of women, thereby increasing the number of unwanted pregnancies, thereby increasing the number of abortions.

So really, if it's about reducing abortions, Romney should be putting services like PP out there--they're what prevent the very thing he is adamantly against.

Just so I understand - sm

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"If, for instance, I could tell you that the human being you are sending to the garbage heap was fated to discover the cure for breast cancer - what WOULD you do?"

And if it was fated to be the next Hitler or Pol Pot or Osama bin Laden? Your argument is invalid.

I think - anon

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You need to walk a mile in the shoes of a woman who has chosen abortion before you so flippantly proselytize.

I have many feelings on abortion - RC

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I've never had to make that decision, but I'm not one who believes it's a purely black and white issue.

What I do believe is that programs like Planned Parenthood, although judged unsavory by certain politicians, actually prevent untold unwanted pregnancies every year. I shudder to think what would happen if we lost them.

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