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both sides clash in Ohio
Posted: Mar 17, 2010
Pro-health reform demonstrators and anti-reform demonstrators gathered in front of Rep Kilroy's office to express their views. A man with a debiiltating neurological disorder was there in support of reform. The anti-reformers gathered around him and shouted "No handouts here!" and other such comments. Incidentally the anti-reform protestors who stated their neighborhoods to the local press ALL came from the oldest, wealthiest, snobbiest suburb in the city. disgusting, disgusting. America can be better than that.
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Oh, please. This is such garbage. America can do better alright - We will when Obama leaves.nm
[ In Reply To ..]nm
Attacking children and elders will not win any elections. - Better dial it back for your own good. nm
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Dial it back yourself. This bill is a BAD bill. period. - Trashing others to make it look better
[ In Reply To ..]doesnt work. Find a new tactic.
One question. Did you view the video and are you actually - defending those tactics?
[ In Reply To ..]Nothing less than a direct answer is acceptable.
You mean like trashing an old man with Parkinsons? - I agree. Find a new tactic. nm
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I WAS THERE... things are not as they seem, liberals. - Swindled again, just like O did to you.nm
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ahh . . . the forest - tickled
[ In Reply To ..]gump of the conservative party . . . bet you were at the big tea bag rally in DC with the 27-kabillion others . . .
I was there, and there was close to 1 million....look at the pics! - Anon
[ In Reply To ..]And for every one person that WAS there, they represented another 10 people who couldn't afford to go - thanks to Obama's pitiful economy.
You may mock us, but we're coming for you.
oh stop with the feeble threats - banished
[ In Reply To ..]you couldn't wipe the saliva dripping down your chin without explicit instructions from Rush L or Beck.
Boy, such hostility! Anyone ever suggested anger management classes? - An
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Party of Hate - Jan
[ In Reply To ..]Liberals learn this stuff from MoveOn, Daily Kos, OFA...it's a tactic. Attack and attack...the party of hate. They don't know the specifics of anything so they make personal attacks like middle school children. Just like the SEIU thugs who go to the Tea Parties and attack people or the SEIU thugs who make Hitler signs and claim to be tea party people and you see the MSM surrounding them taking pictures. Then, that's the only thing you see on the network news. See, they don't watch Fox who exposes these things so they don't think people actually know what they are doing. It's sad really.
Cons LEARN it from Faux news, and in particular - Glen Beck. Also
[ In Reply To ..]from Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Michelle Bachmann, Michael Savage, Karl Rove, Sarah Palin-now we have tea partiers coming out of the woodwork to harass and torment people who disagree with them, including the disabled. Now threats of gun violence. You want to talk about HATE??
I think both parties are guilty of making some pretty nasty comments and of over reaction at times, but lately with the tea bagger movement and the health care reform bill, things have escalated particularly on the side of the right to the point where it is dangerous. Someone is going to get hurt or killed.
Anti reform protesters trashed themselves. Clear as day. - They are getting really good at that.
[ In Reply To ..]They certainly have had enough practice lately.
you just make this stuff up out of thin air - buckeye
[ In Reply To ..]ever consider a career in broadcasting?
Attacking children? NOBODY attacked any children. - MN
[ In Reply To ..]Get over it. This is outright lying.
Actually, anybody who reads the transcripts and sees the video - can make up their own minds
[ In Reply To ..]about that, and certainly are under no obligation to take your word or mine. Now, try to stay on task. These conservatives and tpots attacked and ridiculed a disabled elder with Parkinsons, displayed perfectly horrendous behavior that should put ALL Americans to shame. Do you or do you not denouce what you see on that video? Yes or no?
Reminds me of the gays attacking that little old conservative lady... - Anon
[ In Reply To ..]in Palm Springs after the Prop. 8 vote. Were you railing against their behavior then?
FYI, I did denouce it then and still do. I am not so proud to be unable - condemn my own party members and
[ In Reply To ..]admit when they brought shame to themselves, to me and to my party. Cons on the other hand would rather eat glass than admit they screwed up, as is so clearly illustrated by the responses on this board.
tit for tat - tickled
[ In Reply To ..]is the absolute lowest form of justice. Expect such from thou.
it is GARBAGE to treat the weakest - buckeye
[ In Reply To ..]with such disrespect. We can agree on one word. You can bet your bippie those wealthy white guys have their mothers and fathers tucked away in some Medicare supplemented senior home.
"those wealthy WHITE guys".. You know how racist - that sounds? ..and O wants to CUT Medicare/Medicai
[ In Reply To ..]THAT IS A FACT.
Its okay to talk like a racist when its about - white people, ya know.nm
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disregard the disabled but stand up for the - brandnewday
[ In Reply To ..]oppressors. A fine specimen of social ignorance.
not racist simple, accurate description of the - fg
[ In Reply To ..]anti-reform representatives in THE VIDEO.
who should I believe you or my lyin' eyes. Upper Arlington is the Beacon Hill equivalent in Cowtown (columbus) OH. the strongly repub Columbus Dispatch identified them as residents of that suburb.
There were people there from all over the place. Get off YOUR - high horse. So, did Obama teach you
[ In Reply To ..]to hate them or just to order them to spread the wealth, huh? I suppose if someone has money, they are big and bad, but the poor are simply saints. Could we please stop this nonsense? This is worse than 1st grade level.
To quote Gandi, "the greatness of a nation can - Sick Of It~
[ In Reply To ..]be judged by the way its animals are treated." Well, we treat our animals badly, and often the weakest people of this country even worse! Many turn turn their backs on people by fighting to prevent them from getting decent medical treatment without losing everything they own. We allow them to be homeless and sleep in the streets. We judge and criticize those who can not feed their children due to money and so go on Medicaid/Welfare-even though it costs even more to put them into daycare so mom can take a job! They are labeled as Socialists (which I realize is an insult from the people doing it. I myself find I am having less of a problem with it the more I hear it used as an insult and the more I see people placing profits over people) and are being called lazy, drunks, druggies-it goes on and on. Buckeye, you said it. It is absolute garbage, it is selfish and reprehensible to treat people like this-not just allow them to suffer while passing judgment when we know nothing about their situation, but people like those being discussed here who actually go out of their way to humiliate and torment them! I am frightened of what this country has become, not because of Obama, but because there are so many that listen to nothing but hateful talk radio and TV and take to heart the attempts to incite violence and treatment like this of fellow citizens. What is wrong with this picture, and why can't some on this forum, and across the country see it? It is NEVER okay to treat other people like this, EVER, regardless of their political leanings, their color, their race, their gender, their religion, their sexual orientation, or anything else!
Sorry for the soapbox, but I feel very passionate about this and the way so many have lost any empathy or compassion for their fellow humans. It makes me ashamed. Enough of this. I am going to pick up my son now. :)
That guy can also blame it on people who ACT poor - hold up a "will work for food" sign,
[ In Reply To ..]making you uncomfortable so you give them something (which is what they WANT, certainly not a job.. a gift), then they drive off in their new Cadillac around the corner. Dont believe that story? It happened to me and others. I do get tired of working so hard, yet have an experience like that one. So, someone can misjudge, but it also can be from previous experiences that cause the behavior.
IMHO, that is a cop out. You can not turn - your back on people in
[ In Reply To ..]need because of something like this. You can not jump to the most cynical and pass judgment on every person in need, and there are obviously more people in genuine need now that before. Most people who are that bad off truly are. Sorry, but to me, there is no excuse for treatment like this of other people. The type of experience you mention may offer some explanation why you might be a little more reticent, but that is not the same, it is not a valid excuse, and as you seem like an intelligent person, I know you know that too.
Great post! I couldn't agree more. (sm) - Nikki
[ In Reply To ..]And out of curiosity, I wonder how many people were against healthcare reform and now are in favor of it due to massive increases in insurance premiums they've received.
It really is sad to see how some people just cannot be humane. Karma likely will take care of them, and they very well may be one illness away from walking in Parkinson shoes (or another disease).
MTs have been complaining for some time now about not being able to make much money. I will never understand how they (on this board) can choose to forge a relationship with Republicans, the people who care about them the least.
By the way, I thought your animal metaphor was right on!
So did Ghandi approve of killing the most innocent of us all... - Anon
[ In Reply To ..]Babies in the womb?
Somehow I doubt it. If you're going to hold Ghandi up as someone we should try to emulate, why not tell the whole story?
It's hard to take your comments seriously when you can't seem to shed a tear for the over 40 million babies murdered in this country since 1973....yet you judge your fellow Americans by how well they treat their animals.
That's pathetic.
Difference of opinion on one topic and it seems - that whenever you can
[ In Reply To ..]not defend your stance on something you deflect and avoid addessing it by coming back to this. We are talking about the treatment of people, those who actually were babies and were actually born and are now up and walking around and being walked on by all of us! We walk past them on the street, we see them on the news. You seem to care nothing about these living, breathing people that you see every day and can not seem to shed a tear for them. Now, that is pathetic.
Now, we were discussing our ability as Americans to consider ourselves the best in the world, the richest country in the world, and yet our compassion has gone down the drain. We are somehow finding ourselves able to not only turn our back on the weakest among us and pretend they don't exist, but are also able to torment and humiliate them, and then turn around and justify it. Now, this is a moral issue. Personally, I think like everything else in this country, it comes down to one of 3 two things-power, money or religion. Any calm, rational insights as to why this has happened without digressing to the abortion issue?
Boy, jump to conclusions much? - Anon
[ In Reply To ..]Glad you're not in the legal system, lol....
You and me both. I would want no part of it. - You would also be wise to
[ In Reply To ..]steer clear of it. You would be so busy trying to tell people the law is wrong that you would never enforce it.
Uhmmmm-Nope. It is just what you do. Just - read through your own
[ In Reply To ..]posts. We were talking about healthcare, not abortion. Lately, it has been happening with you a lot. You try to justify things pointed out about the policies and/or actions of the repubs and you respond by not really responding to the initial remark and bringing up abortion instead. No jumping to conclusions. That is just the pattern of late. I am not insulting or name calling, btw, just making a point so if you respond to this it would nice if you would do the same.
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