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Obama Voting Bloc

Posted: Apr 4, 2014

I heard on Mark Simone's NY radio show today that the 4 groups of people who put Obama through to the presidency were (1) African Americans, (2) Hispanic Americans, (3) young people and (4) single women.

Those 4 groups of people are also the ones most negatively impacted by this current economy. Isn't that just wonderful? The ones who helped put him in office are the ones reaping the least reward for doing so. What a guy!

The most recent unemployment numbers are higher than the national average for the above groups, particularly for the young people.

This information was from the Department of Labor Statistics according to what I heard on the radio.

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Oh, I assume you think we would have done - so much better under Romney?

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Gimme a break. The Romneys of this world are what put is here and kept us here. Their representatives in the Congress have blocked every single initiative President Obama put forward to create jobs and help working people.

In our own situation as MTs - the tax breaks for offshoring which Romney was a big proponent of began way before President Obama. He in fact has tried to get a bill forward that disallows tax breaks for those offshoring jobs, also one that rewards companies for bringing jobs back, both stalled in the Republican Congress.

They put is here, they kept us here, they are trying to control our reproductive rights, they are trying to cut all programs helping the poor. NOT President Obama.

I imagine all these groups of people would do worse in any bad economy, and the Republicans have been trying so hard to keep it down so people will believe you just have to vote for them (again) and magically things will get better. Pretty gullible if you believe that.

I don't assume anything. I KNOW we would have been - better off with Romney.

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I'm not going to argue economic principles with you. It's not worth my time or effort when it has all been said and written so eloquently by others in the past. However, I will say a few words.

American corporations pay the highest taxes in the world. That is the reason most companies are headquartered abroad these days. Could this possibly be because of the tax and spend liberals? (Remember who was Speaker of the House under Bush.)

Another thing to recall, George W. had 54 consecutive months of job growth during his presidency. The recession and/or depression was helped along by the Dodd-Frank housing scam. None of this was helped by the big business and banking bailout by the government first under Bush and then under Obama.

Obama has done NOTHING to improve the situation like he promised. His focus has been to blame and deflect and divert from day #1. His focus has also been on increasing the debt a staggering degree by the implementation of Obamacare and more government spending with money pulled out of thin air, I guess (or getting it from China).

You may respond all you want to this, but I will not be answering back because I'm going away for the weekend.

Thanks for all the talking points from Fox or Beck - but no thanks

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The fact remains that the Republican party is now the party of the rich AND the right wing crazies who embrace white supremacy and cockfighting.

You think those four groups of people suffered so much under Obama, why isn't your party out selling themselves to them?

Why do they do nothing to address issues important to African Americans, Hispanics, young people and woman? Why aren't they out there presenting their ideas, trying to change hearts and minds?

Everything they do is an insult to these groups, hence why would they ever vote for Republicans?

No, Republicans would just rather try to prevent them voting and try to repeal Obamacare, which has helped many of them, and pass ridiculous antiabortion and rape insurance laws against women.

If you want someone's vote, you PROVE you are the party to help them with your ideas, you don't lecture. Most of us don't like to be mansplained to by old white men, especially when they spout "facts" like that, as if, despite all the anti-black, anti-Hispanic, anti-women rhetoric, we should just vote for them because somehow miraculously our lives will be better economically. Not buying it.

You need to watch something other than MSNBC - Laura

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I am so offended by your opening line about white supremacy and cockfighting - if all you have left is name-calling - then pack up and go home.

Excuse me, yeah, maybe I heard about the - supremacy and cockfighting

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On MSNBC, doesn't mean it's not the truth. As you guys are fond of saying, do a little research, do I have to google everything for you?

Two of your guys have been connected with both. Mr Steve Abbott, running for governor of Texas, cited Charles Murray, author of "The Bell Curve" - yeah, that book that says black people are dumb because they're black - in his education policy. Mr Matt Bevin, Kentucky tea party senate candidate, attended a rally to promote the legalization of cockfighting, claiming he thought it was about "states' rights." Yeah right.

I was merely trying to point out that if the Republican party wants to win over the groups the OP mentioned, they need to try with their ideas and maybe even change some of them, actually talk to a black person here and there who isn't Allen West.

The Republican platform stinks for minorities and women, that's their problem. You can't put lipstick on a pig, as a famous politician once said. They need to change their platform or try to explain how the policies they espouse are in any way good for those four groups mentioned.

A very excellent post - Thank you - nm

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nm

You have proven the poster's point. - ROFLOL

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Use diversionary or deflection tactics whenever possible to steer attention away from Obama's shortcomings.

Can you explain why a lot of people you mentioned are - Truthhurts

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migrating to the Republican party? There are a lot more who have left the Democratic party because of the broken promises by this administration.

They're tired of the promises and lies. Hope and Change did not work for them. So many can see it and they are upset because of it.

It's the Democrats who are putting down women and look how they treat those African-Americans who ARE conservative. Or haven't you heard anything about that? I would suggest you look that up. They are disgusting with their name-calling and snide remarks.

Another thing...I wouldn't listen to MSNBC if they were the last TV station on earth. The hate they spew against people that don't share their views is appalling. Andrea Mitfchell, Melissa Harris-Perry, Tingles, Sharpless (one of the nastiest race-baiters and liars who ever opened his mouth), Schultz, Hayes and the rest are brain dead and just plain sick. They have a nervous breakdown every time someone out maneuvers them in their talking points.

Now I must finish up because I feel a wee bit sick from talking about the above people in the last paragraph.

Have a good evening.

Romney vs Obama - White republican female not rich by any means

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When did the MTSO's start cutting pay??? When Obama's ACA was passed, our employer told us we would probably be losing our hospital based job and that is exactly what happened. Most hospitals now have MTSO's doing what transcription is left after the EMR's took over. The biggies know they have their employees over a barrel now and can get away with it because you are willing to work for pennies. The ACA would not have happened if not for Obama and lesgislators who voted for it without reading it. The ACA is not a success yet so you need to keep your uninformed opinions to yourself.

The original post had nothing to do with the ACA - and that is not the cause of our predicament

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I do NOT need to keep my opinions to myself and I could say you had uninformed opinions too. I won't, because I think everyone's opinion is valid.

However, blaming EMRs on Obamacare is incorrect as well. Do a search on this very board and you will see many medical practices began doing this 10 or more years ago, so again who's uninformed now?

The issue at hand is why the four groups of voters do not vote Republican, I offered my completely informed, valid opinions. You can offer yours, too, not just denigrate mine.

Republicans for some reason do not like to try to understand why people don't vote Republican. They should.

Are you blaming the ACA for crappy - line rates?

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I don't know about you, but my line rates were cut in half years before ACA came into play. It was speech recognition and EMR that killed transcription, not the ACA. It was people sending work out of the country that killed transcription, not the ACA.

FYI, EMR is our bane, and that was - Bush's baby. nm

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Beg to differ - Truthhurts

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EMR/EHR has been around since the '60s. Hospitals began changing to it in the early '80s, first used by the VA. VR came along in the '80s, too. Things really expanded with the Internet (www) in the '90s..HIPAA came along because of it.

The VHA MANDATED EMR in '96.

Bush promoted (read again PROMOTED) EMR in 2004.

The HITECH Act passed in 2009 and that's when OBAMA decided that EMR should become mandatory and even provided Medicaid rebates of up to $63,750 and Medicare rebates of up to $44,000.for those that jumped in prior to 2015. If they didn't, they would face fines.

the EHR (electronic health record) has not been around - since the '60s

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Unless I'm misunderstanding something. (?)

Mid-60s - Truthhurts

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One of the earliest data processing systems focused specifically on managing clinical data – now called a hospital information system – is introduced at El Camino Hospital in Mountain View, California.

Late 1960s: “Problem-Oriented Medical Record” Introduced
Physician Larry Weed introduces the idea of recording patient information electronically, aiming to generate a record that would allow a third party to independently verify the diagnosis. Prior to this, a doctor only recorded his diagnoses and the treatment provided.

1972: First Electronic Medical Records System Developed The Regenstreif Institute develops the first electronic medical record system. Although the technology is widely regarded as a major advancement for medical practices, it does not attract many physicians.

Dragon came out in 1982.

And through the years, EMR/EHR/speech recognition has evolved into what we have today. Bush promoted the use of it in 2004, but didn't mandate it.

Wow! Thank you for the compliments. - OP

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I heard what I heard on the radio and put that post together all by my little old self. As far as my second post, that information is what I have learned over the last few years from a number of sources, including MSNBC. So, thank you for putting me amongst the ranks of the intelligent people like Beck and on Fox. Wow! You've made my day!!

Isn't it funny how some think they are insulting - The Sarge

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When in fact the opposite is true. It was a great compliment to you.

I enjoyed your post.

wars tend to create jobs - nm

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That's not the issue here - The Sarge

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The issue is about Obama. Not Romney, not Bush, not Clintons, not McCain or Palin, not Christy and not even Batman or Captain America. It's about Obama and who put him here. Actually though the truth is while those people the OP listed voted for him, the people who put him in place were wall street and the top 1%ers. He was chosen long before the elections were over.

This board does not change. I have not been to the board in probably 2 months or so, but the posters here don't change. Whenever someone is discussing something about the current crowd when it can't be argued with the same ol "be my guest elect Romney again" or "you'd be better off with Romney", etc, etc. No, that is not what is being discussed. You are trying to divert attention off of what the OP posted.

I can say the same thing you did - give me a break. "The Romney's of the world"???? Does he have family members in China, Africa, India or whereever? What world? The entire earth? No, you know who put us here (in near poverty) and are keeping us here (near poverty). That would be individuals. But mostly the bad policies that the democrats have passed and are trying to pass. The top 1%ers (who are big democrat supporters), wall street and the politicians like Harry, Nancy, Clintons, etc.

Obama has done nothing to help people like "us". Because of Obama and his administration more people are now out of work. Obama is allowing jobs to continue to be shipped overseas. Because of his failed policies more people are out of work. Have republican tried to block bad policies or other things Obama is trying to push forward. Sure, of course they have and rightly so. This is what we have elected them for. We are tired of seeing bad policies destroy the country. WE WANT IT STOPPED. The republicans are trying to pass a better health care system for ALL Americans, but the democrats have stopped them to put in this socialist crap (of course that they are not part of).

Oh, Obama is a big talker, that's for sure. He has NOT tried to give incentives to bring back jobs offshored (with the help of Billy boy NAFTA). Anyone who believes that, well please contact me because I've got a bridge for sale I'd like you to buy.

Oh please give us all a break on that faux "they are trying to control our reproductive rights". I just can't believe how gullible people are.

From everything I read from my sources it looks like because of the failed polities, failed health care, agencies spying, the King and Marie Antoinette, Benghazi, and all the other scandals among other things too numerous to mention here democrats need to start packing now. They have no one to blame but themselves for the destruction they have created. They should be ashamed that all they have been concerned about is enriching themselves and living lavishly on the taxpayers money while the taxpayer (people like me) are suffering. When you have people like Harry and Nancy allowed to spew their absolute hatred and vitriol towards anyone not in the democrat party (and for no reason). When he gets up and states he doesn't care about kids with cancer or for someone who is trying to get their funds so they can improve the city and while the camera he thinks is shut off says "shut up or your going to ruin this for us". Well you know what Hawwy. THIS AINT NO GAME. You and the democrats have ruined the lives of Americans. Obama and your ("your" referring to Hawwy and the democrats) party are putting people out of work, out of health insurance they had. You (referring to Hawwy, Nancy, Obama, and democrat politicians) are all acting like a bunch of spoiled little self serving brats using taxpayers money to enrich your own personal lives and the Americans are sick of it. The American people are also tired of being embarrased by sending people like Lerch to other countries because he thinks he's some big negotiator.

And ya know what? YES THE COUNTRY WOULD BE BETTER UNDER ROMNEY/RYAN!!! Whether or not anyone wants to believe that. At least they know how to balance a budget - heck they even know its important to have a budget. There are many other reasons too numerous to mention as why the country would have done better under them. Sorry, but Americans are tired of the country being run into the ground because of the democrats decisions.

So yeah, I'll say the same thing you did in your post....Give me a break.

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Excellent and intelligent post by the Sarge - Retired MT oldie

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Excellent post. Thank you!!!

Please stop insulting other posters. - sm

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You are free to state your opinion, but you have no right to insult posters with whom you disagree.

I meant to like your post but accidentally - disliked, I completely agree

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It is kind of funny how up in arms the right wingers get when they feel someone has attacked THEM - they all rush in a group to complain to the moderator. Yet they have no compunction about getting personal with those they disagree with.

I can see why they want their own board, they hate any interruption to their Obammie commie BO etc. hate fests. They get very affronted when you actually present them with a few facts, or the insulting notion maybe they should put themselves in others' shoes.

Just for the record - The Sarge

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1. I didn't rush into any group or complained to the moderator. In fact no other "right winger" "rushed in a group and complained to the moderator" (or at least by the messages posted I don't believe they complained.

2. I didn't get personal with any poster here.

3. Conservatives don't want their own board. It's the liberals who keep writing they want their own board. They seem to have a difficult time listening to others who have a different opinion than they do.

4. There are no Obama "hate fests". There is disagreements about policies this administration is shoving down everyone's throats.

5. There are a ton of "hate fests" against Romney, Bush, Palin, Cruz and other conservatives along with conservative posters here.

6. There has been no facts put forth that anyone would be affronted with.

7. Calling posters "right wingers" you are personally insulting them. However, it is back firing because for us to be called a right winger is not insulting. In fact it is a great compliment to be referred to as a right winger. But the intent that posters have is to insult the other side.

Just needed to get the facts straight.

Thanks.

Whoa - sm

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Who rushed to complain to the moderator? How would you know that? In your post above you complain about this board and you complain about the posters on this board. You could always get a thick skin instead of issuing directives. No one is supposed to try to moderate the board.

Whoa right back - twist much? - The Sarge

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1. The poster I replied to stated " they all rush in a group to complain to the moderator". I stated " I didn't rush into any group or complained to the moderator. In fact no other "right winger" "rushed in a group and complained to the moderator" (or at least by the messages posted I don't believe they complained).

The key words there being "at least by the messages posted I don't believe they complained". That means "I don't believe" they complained. If you are trying to insinuate something else there is no need to. My words are pretty straight forward - it's what *I* believe.

2. I didn't issue any directives.

3. Doesn't matter about "thick skin", just don't accuse me of things I didn't do or say. Pretty easy really - as they say doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

4. There is nothing in any of my posts that even lead to anyone believing I'm trying to "moderate the board". I'd say nice try, but that's no where even close.

5. If you don't like my posts, you know my moniker and as the saying goes "you are free to skip my posts".

I give my opinions on how I feel about politics. Last time I checked the TOS, that is allowed here on the board. If people don't like it they need to get a thick skin. However, if people accuse me of saying something I didn't, yeah, you bet I'll speak up.

Might as well give up, Sarge. Seems some posters - Truthhurts

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just like to twist words. You can't win. My moniker is purposely what it is because if anyone really, really wants the truth, it will really, really hurt people who believe in the dreamworld fluff put out by some politicians and they refuse to hear it and just don't like it. Nothing you say will change a thing.

You're right about that. They don't hear it. (sm) - Abby

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Not too many "teachable moments" in libland.

"right winger" is insulting (?) - isn't it funny how some think...

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Why not? I remember the flak that starts every time a - Truthhurts

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poster would call liberals "left winger" so insulting. It seems - no, no seems - it is a double standard. Liberal Democrats is allowed to call Conservative Republicans anything they want (just listen to the hate speeches in Congress from that group),but the Conservative Republicans are not allowed to call the LD's anything that points out any flaws.

Look at that Dickinson fellow who is running for Congress in VA. He spews so much hatred, I'm surprised he's not banned from certain sites, and his stupidity is unbelievable. He doesn't even know the history of either party, Democrat or Republican.

I've never heard a liberal be insulted by "left winger" - it's just a designation

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I have only seen objections to labels like socialist, communist, etc., which some posters seem to think are synonyms for democrat.

Yup, me too. - nm

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Oh please, give me a break. I didn't personally address - anyone here - The Sarge

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I see it's the same ol, same ol. Don't like someone with an opposing opinion than yours then you call it "insulting posters".

I stated my opinion, which the last time I looked at the rules that is what we are allowed to post here. The poster I replied to said give me a break (referring to the poster she replied to) and I just repeated what she said, so I know you're not referring to that, otherwise you would have addressed her and not me.

In fact, I just re-read my post again. I did not address her or any other poster specifically. I gave my opinions on how I feel about politicians and what is going on.

Yes, I AM allowed to state my opinion which is what I did. If posters don't agree with me that's fine. I've seen enough insulting posts from liberal posters.

But yes, I DO have the right to state my opinion. If you think it's insulting that's not my problem. Otherwise I'll report every other liberal post and say that are insulting me because I disagree with them.

If you don't like my posts you are free to pass it by.

you'll report every other liberal post? - sm

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Is it necessary to be threatening? Golly.

And yet another one twists - golly gee go figure - The Sarge

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You know whether its all the same poster or different posters, these lame attempts at trying to put words in my mouth I didn't say, or pick a little word here and there and take it out of context twist it into something I didn't say is so obvious.

So, here, I'll explain here too...

The entire statement was "But yes, I DO have the right to state my opinion. If you think it's insulting that's not my problem. Otherwise I'll report every other liberal post and say that are insulting me because I disagree with them."

That means if I get reported for stating my opinion, then the shoe will be on the other foot. That's not a threat. If people report me for stating my opinion they shouldn't be surprised if the same happens back.

Trying to turn my words into something I didn't not say. I'm not surprised, but golly, really?

Childish antics? - sm

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To quote you:

"This board does not change. I have not been to the board in probably 2 months or so, but the posters here don't change. Whenever someone is discussing something about the current crowd when it can't be argued with, the childish antics of "be my guest elect Romney again" or "you'd be better off with Romney", etc, etc. No, that is not what is being discussed. You are trying to divert attention off of what the OP posted."

You insult a whole group of "posters" by referring to their posts as childish antics. Now you pretend you didn't insult anyone.

fixed - nm

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yup - it's standard

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That is an excellent post, Sarge. Haven't seen you in awhile. - Abby (sm)

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As usual, you make perfect sense. I really feel like you identify with the ones being hurt by this administration. Maybe that's what it will take - more hurt by more people. That's where we're headed. I'm planning for a rainy day, cause there are lots more ahead, I'm afraid, due to this pack of thieves in government. Yes, WE WANT IT TO STOP. You said it.

It's been a long time - nothing changes though - The Sarge

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You state your opinion on how you feel about issues and politicians and you are falsely accused of insulting specific posters. LOL

Makes me laugh that there are still posters who can't handle a difference of opinion.

I have definitely been hurt by this administration and their decisions. A bunch of them need a straight jacket. They need to be held accountable for their actions. Pack of thieves is a good term.

Thanks

I salute you, Sarge. - NPC

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You have nailed it once again. Thank you!!

Thanks! - The Sarge

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I often say it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what is happening. It' must be the desperation with the upcoming election.

If the democrats in office actually did anything to help the people of the country out then they would not have anything to worry about. But because of their failed policies, their blatant disrespect for the people of the country, their self inflated egos and only concerned with self gratification for themselves they have ruined any chance of re-election (or being elected the first time).

Disgusted is not even anywhere near close to how I and other American's feel for the way they have abused their position and treated the people of the country. I hope they enjoy the heat cos after what they've done it's going to be a very hot place where they are going.

I can't believe what you get away with - sm

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"You are all acting like a bunch of spoiled little self serving brats."

And I can't believe you get away with twisting what I said - The Sarge

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into something that it's not. Lets try this again and I'll quote my post.

In my post I'm talking about politicians and issues the politicians are making. If you are not a politician this post is not about you or other posters here.

Here's how you can tell. I wrote:

"Obama and your party are putting people out of work, out of health insurance they had. You (Obama and the politicians) are all acting like a bunch of spoiled little self serving brats using taxpayers money to enrich your own personal lives and the Americans are sick of it."

The key words here are "using taxpayers money to enrich your own personal lives and the Americans are sick of it."

Are you personally using taxpayers money for your own benefit? I'm obviously talking about politicians and not posters here. But then again you already knew this.

? twist - you changed your post (!) - unblvble

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I changed my post afterwards and stated that - The Sarge

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That is my prerogative.

What got me was having to add the "child's whiny - voice" to the statement about

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reproductive rights. And saying that she can't believe people are "gullible enough" to believe what another poster wrote. :/

Hypocrisy - The Sarge

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The person I replied to stated "Pretty gullible if you believe that".

I stated "I just can't believe how gullible people are who actually believe what you just wrote". So, the poster I replied to is okay by stating we are gullible but it's not okay for me to state I believe they are gullible. Okay, got it.

The use of rampage is quite amusing. That's how I describe the person's post I replied to. But no, just get tired of the hypocrisy and so I state how I feel about the issues and politicians, just like posters state about Bush, Romney and all republicans.

I removed the child's whiny voice - The Sarge

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I removed the whiny voice statement.

I left the gullible statement in because it is in direct reply to the poster I replied to who wrote she can't believe we are gullible. If one poster can write it another poster should also be able to write the same thing.

My post is my opinions on politicians. My post is not a rampage, hateful, abusive, threatening or any thing else posters here are accusing me of. I stuck to talking about the politicians and I did not take the topic off topic, which is what the poster I replied to was trying to do. I brought it back to the issue that the OP wrote about.

If some don't like that I have a different opinion about politicians and issues that they do, then there is something called a thick skin. This board is for all of us to post our opinions about how we feel (good or bad). My opinions are allowed just like other people I disagree with.

please - see message

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This does not sound like an opinion about issues or politicians:

"This board does not change. I have not been to the board in probably 2 months or so, but the posters here don't change."

That is my opinion. There is nothing wrong with it - It stays

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Give an inch and they'll take a mile. I took out what I should not have written. There is nothing wrong with the post otherwise. I am writing my opinion. It stays. Someone wrote to me to get a thick skin. I say to those who disagree with me to get a thick skin. I did not point out a specific poster.

you specifically said you are "talking about politicians and issues" - sm

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"In my post I'm talking about politicians and issues the politicians are making."

Making remarks about the board and the posters is NOT political. And that is MY opinion. There is nothing wrong with it. It stays.

I don't know how anyone dislikes this, well I do - willow (sm)

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Stating your opinion is much different than being abusive, hateful or insulting.

You stated your opinion about politicians and kept it at that. You didn't address specific posters here. You stated what you observe. This is your opinion and you are entitled to write your opinion, just like other posters write their opinion.

Do they have a button when reporting posts that is called "difference of opinion I don't like"? LOL Do people really report people because they have a difference of opinion? What excuse would they give?

Your post just states the facts about what is going on in politics. You talk about what is going on in politics and why we have lost faith in politicians and the wrong that politicians are doing.

The bestpost I have read in a LOOOONG Time on this lopsided board - Truthhurts

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Too bad we can only give 1 like. :) I always liked your posts and missed you here, so I hope you stick around. Some people may be new here and need to know both sides and I can't be here 24/7.

Everything you said is true. I hadn't heard about the open mic stupidity, though. Have to look that up and post to my liberal friend (only 1 left 'cause they don't like truth. This last liberal friend at least listens and thinks. :)

I'm still here... - NPC

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And I post fairly regularly, but I've not been using my moniker as often as previously.

You're stronger and tougher than I am! LOL - Truthhurts

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My BP can only take so much bull and then I have to take a break so I don't get banned because of remarks I might make in a weak moment. :)

I've had those moments... - NPC

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I've typed out several long posts and then just scrapped the whole thing because of it being too inflammatory. This is what happens out of pure frustration when people appear to not get what you're saying. They actually probably do get it, but want to pretend as if they do not (I'm using pretend loosely here, giving them the benefit of the doubt) just to bait you and make you look like the bad guy. I've been caught in that trap way too many times and still do get caught, but I'm refusing to partake in a lot of their little games. I think the left is getting very desperate and I think that desperation will increase as we get closer to the mid terms. Of course, this is all just my opinion.

loved those edits - good job

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Thanks - The Sarge

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If there is something I feel is wrong I'll edit. But not going to play games of give an inch and they take a mile. Now that I've edited my posts are fine as they stay.

Thanks

The "bloc" - NK

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you referred to has historically been low on the totem pole of employment and wages compared to white men so it's hardly anything new. It has nothing to do with President Obama or any other president. It's ingrained in the culture of this country.

As a black man - :)

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one would think that the president would have done more to help the black community than he has.

A lot of the black people in Chicago - sm

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have turned completely against him. They realized his lies after they voted him in the second time. There's been a lot written and said about this group of Chicagoans. It's really sad. They've lost all hope. The very people who helped him get into office (like the post says) are the ones suffering the most.

Republican Toilet Bowl - me

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Does anyone remember the toilet bowl we were circling around getting ready to go down the drain at the end of the Republican Bush administration?

"toilet bowl" - exmt

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Yep, and Obama has finished the spiral {"flush"}

Nope, just the current one - nm

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You mean because the Democrats FAILED to pass - Truthhurts

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legislation to strengthen regulations on Wall Street and the Banks? That toilet? Yes, I remember it well. Started back in 2004-2005 when the Dems were taking control of Congress.

This all started earlier than that with reports warning as far back as 2001. But, the Ranking Member of the House Financial Services Committee, Barney Frank, disagreed totally with the Administration's assessment, saying "these two entities – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – are not facing any kind of financial crisis … The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing." (9/11/03) In October: that same year, Senator Carper refused to acknowledge any necessity for reforms saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

It was broke, but the Dems buried their heads in the sand despite warnings every year and every couple months. Harry Reid was also part of the denial, refusing any legislation in 2005. until the final warning in 2007 by Bush. He saw the foreclosures starting to rise. But back then it was Dodd who ignored the President's warnings and called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. The House had passed legislation but the Senate never took it up for debate, let alone a vote.

2008, after repeated warnings, after repeated requests by Bush, crash, bang!!!

Hello Democrats. Thanks for all your help in avoiding the crash by looking out for your own greedy selves. Remember....Frank Raines walked away with a few cool millions from "doing a good job" according to Frank and Dodd. Frank and Dodd finally got legislation through BUT it did NOTHING to help anyone. It even repealed a law that was in effect for years that DID help. Then those two walked away with a nice big pension.

So there ya go. The Dems put up in the toilet, not the Republicans. The Dems were too busy trying to take down the Republican party, they didn't give a hill of beans about the people, only their selfish partisanship. After all, it was Clinton who did start the whole thing by wanting everyone to own the American Dream (a home)....so they had to keep up the act.

I do believe it was the democrats - that were in charge

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of congress at the end of the Bush administration.

This is to the deflector(s). - OP

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You have continued to prove our points by deflecting from the issue and attacking other posters based on semantics. We are expressing our opinions. You may express yours. Let's all stop the attack dog antics.

Thank you!!!! - The Sarge

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You're welcome. - sm

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I don't think any of your posts were out of line in any fashion. IMO, you didn't need to change a thing. I think someone saw your moniker and decided to pounce and pick you apart just to deflect (as usual). Sadly, that is one reason why I don't use mine much anymore.

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