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Medicare Savings--Way to go, Obama


Posted: Oct 4, 2012

WASHINGTON (Reuters) — Ninety-one people including doctors, nurses and other medical professionals were charged criminally after an investigation of Medicare fraud that involved $430 million in false billing in seven cities, officials said on Thursday. It was the government’s second big raid in recent months after a similar investigation in May involving $452 million in possible fraud in Medicare, the health program for the elderly and disabled. The accusations include billing the government for unnecessary ambulance rides in California, writing prescriptions for patients in Dallas who did not qualify for them and paying kickbacks like food and cigarettes to patients in Houston if they attended programs for which a hospital could bill. The investigation is part of an effort by the Obama administration to find health care savings. Indictments against the 91 defendants were unsealed on Thursday after a coordinated investigation led by the departments of justice and of Health and Human Services, officials said. Most of the 91 surrendered or were arrested. Those charged were trying to make a living by defrauding Medicare and its sibling program, Medicaid, which insures the poor, the officials said. Of the 91 people charged this week, 33 were involved in false billing in the Miami area. In separate cases, people were accused of improperly billing the government for home health and mental health services. Officials said they had found an additional $42 million in improper claims at a Houston hospital, Riverside General, where they earlier said they had found $116 million in fraud. In those cases officials said patients had received cigarettes and other kickbacks if they attended a partial hospitalization program. Some patients watched TV instead of receiving services there, the government said. Riverside General’s president was among seven employees facing charges on Thursday. ;

Yeah, and he cut BILLIONS more by cutting current - benefits to seniors.. sad fact ! nm

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And that would be a straight up lie..sm - JTBB

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This has been debunked and explained so many times it's ridiculous. Exactly what good do you think it does the American people to consistently tell the same lie again and again?

FACT: A thing that is indisputably the case. -- As in the opposite of what you just said.

If it was a lie...sm - rdg

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why didn't Obama refute the charge by Romney in the debate last night? Obama never denied it.

Not a lie - do a search on it - sm

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Not the person you replied to, but I was curious. Not going to say wether I'm for or against it as I don't know it in depth, but I did a search and found that Obama admitted he cut billions from Medicare (i.e. benefits to seniors). I've read 2 links now (independent links) and they both say the same thing. He is cutting benefits to seniors.

You keep posting that things have been debunked when they haven't. First do some independent research before posting so at least you'll know before spouting off.
Right. Obama didnt even defend himself because - even HE knows it is true. nm
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Thanks for your definition of the word FACT - LOL

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Got anything to back up your DEBUNKED.

You obviously believe Obama's lies ! nm - LOL (those cuts are fact)

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Putting it to bed.... - SK1
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Here's what PolitiFact has to say about the cuts.  It makes sense and states it so that my mathematical pea-brain can understand it.






Romney says Obama cut $716 billion from Medicare




Medicare figured prominently in the first debate between President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney.

The cost of the popular government health care program for seniors is growing rapidly and broadly believed to be unsustainable. Throughout the campaign, the candidates have been accusing each other of endangering the program, or not doing enough to maintain it.

Romney raised a charge we’ve heard before, that "on Medicare for current retirees, (Obama) is cutting $716 billion from the program."

What Obamacare does

The cut Romney spoke of refers to an aspect of the Affordable Care Act, known as Obamacare.

Obamacare does not literally cut funding from the Medicare program’s budget. Rather, the health care law instituted a number of changes to try to bring down future health care costs in the program.

The spending reductions were mainly aimed at insurance companies and hospitals, not beneficiaries. The law made significant reductions to Medicare Advantage, a subset of Medicare plans run by private insurers. Medicare Advantage was started under President George W. Bush, and the idea was that competition among the private insurers would reduce costs. But the plans have actually cost more than traditional Medicare. So the health care law scales back the payments to private insurers.

Hospitals, too, will be paid less if they have too many re-admissions, or if they fail to meet other new benchmarks for patient care.
   
The overall Medicare budget is projected to go up for the foreseeable future, even with the health care law’s cost-saving measures. The law tries to limit the program’s growth, though, making it less than it would have been without the law, but not reducing its overall budget. So claims that Obama would "cut" Medicare need more explanation to be fully accurate. In the past, we’ve rated similar statements Half True or Mostly False, depending on the wording and context.
   
$716 billion
       
In 2011, the CBO determined that the federal health care law would reduce Medicare outlays by $507 billion between 2012 and 2021. In a more recent estimate released this year, the CBO looked at the years 2013 to 2022 and determined the health care law affected Medicare outlays by $716 billion.
       
So it’s timing that’s making the cuts bigger, not changes to Medicare. And the cuts are from future spending, not the program’s current budget.

Our ruling
   
Romney said, "on Medicare for current retirees, (Obama) is cutting $716 billion from the program."

That amount -- $716 billion -- refers to Obamacare’s reductions in Medicare spending over 10 years, primarily paid to insurers and hospitals. But the statement gives the impression that the law takes money already allocated to Medicare away from current recipients.
   
We rate his statement Half True.


Thank you. In one sentence, the $716 billion.... - sm
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refers to cost cuts/savings in the "program" not to benefits. Medicare benefits have NOT been cut. I say this from personal experience.

Do you know what a lie is? Turn off MSNBC. - nm

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nm

Maybe you should take your own advice? - backwards typist

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"Exactly what good do you think it does the American people to consistently tell the same lie again and again? "

There's a lot of times you consistently tell the same lie again and again. In fact, change the words "lot of times" to "most times" and you have a winner.

Please, JTBB, not trying to argue and want to keep this civil, but I think instead of always floating untruths, you should research those things you think others are lying about first. Maybe then you wouldn't be so argumentative.

It's definitely known that Obama took $716B FROM Medicare to cover the start up costs of Obamacare. It's stated in the law itself. So, what you heard is untrue.

Good news.... - SK1

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I'd like to see us fighting fraud much harder on many fronts. It's costing us waaaaayyyy too much money.

You really believe the money he saves (sm) - Texan

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is going to be turned back to help patients? BTW, Riverside General is a black hospital, in case you didn't know.

OMG. - RC

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But it's true, and they've been cheating the government - for years. Read up on it.

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What exactly IS a black hospital? - RC

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And what is your point?

Did you think I was making it up? Link - Texan

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My point was obvious. Here's the link.

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/news/little-known-black-history-fact/little-known-black-history-fact-riverside-general-hospital
Not obvious - RC
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I don't know what Riverside being a black hospital would have to do with anything.

They have been cheating the govt since Obama (sm) - Texan
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has been in office. He's worried about Medicare fraud. Why wasn't this hospital stopped from cheating? Duh.

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