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I get so tired of stupidity and ignorance. If someone could show me (sm)

Posted: May 8, 2015

a few videos of the Tea Party rallies getting out of hand, acting like the fascists they are called, rioting, killing, looting, any of that aberrant behavior, I'd be very happy. If you can't, please shut your pie holes. You know nothing about the Tea Party. Nothing. I'll wait for some proof.

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Exhibit A - the actual definition of fascism

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I didn't write that comment earlier about the Tea Party, but this comment I'm replying to requested evidence of Tea Party fascism. The best I can do is provide the actual definition of fascism, which are none of the things mentioned in the comment I'm replying to.

Merriam Webster:

"A political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition."

IMO, individuals and groups with superiority complexes and social regimentation - and actually attempt to enforce social regimentation through labeling and limit that free speech and protest only be applied their own group - are dead giveaways of a fascist mentality.

I did write post referring to fascism and the - definition works for me

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See that's the problem is that people think they know definition of:
Communism
Socialism
Fascism
Alinsky --which I'll give wiggle to since it is really just the name of a professor in Hillary Clinton's past that has been coined to mean socialism/communism (whatever mix is convenient for the comment)

My post was really a wake-up on all of the people screaming communism/socialism to point out how well the T-Party which is Republican fits into this Fascism mold.

That's why I voted for your Tea Party fascism comment ;) - I agree

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And I also agree with you about most modern Republicans. Not all, I am lucky enough to have Republican friends in RL that are led by their conscience rather than their party or Fox News, but it has been my experience in my area. Republicans ain't what they used to be, that's for sure:)

As for definitions, I looked up the definition so I could be sure before I spoke. I wish I could say I always do that, but none of us always do, I guess. But some NEVER check themselves before they wreck themselves, and in doing so, are only proving their superiority/fascist mentality.

And it's fair to say some of those traits can be found in communists as well. Not over the same groups, but yes. That's why I think those 2 extremes are actually 2 sides of the same coin.

IMO, balance, or at least more towards the middle, is the key to successful societies because the extreme alternatives have repeatedly failed.

"If you pull the string too tight, it breaks. Too loose, it won't play. Try the middle way"

~ Buddha

video? - nm

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nm

Video of what, my voting for her comment? - The actual Merriam-Webster definition of fascism?

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I'm not sure what I said in either of my above comments we'd need video to support?

I didn't take a video of me voting for the tea-party fascism comment, I'm sorry. And all I said in the first one is what the OP said versus the actual Merriam-Webster definition. MW doesn't provide picture books or video to illustrate their definitions. I can give a link, though:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

I don't think my RL Republican friends would want video of them posted here, I'm sorry. And Buddha died almost 2000 years ago, so sorry, no video there either. But here's a link to his quote:

http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/buddhism/pbs2_unit03.htm

As for not thinking before I speak myself sometimes, I don't have video, but there I did it below today under a different thread and it is still visible, after misunderstanding a comment :)

Speaking of which, I do hope some aren't still sore about being unable to come up with links to direct quotes or video after stating "Obama said he was Muslim" as fact? Because no one stated anything as fact in this thread today, it's clearly an opinion thread beginning with the OP

That's great. We'll look forward to more balance. - Won't be holding our breaths though.

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Never breathing isn't good, I think.

I see the rose-colored glasses. - Truthhurts

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I can't believe you are calling Alinsky "just the name of a professor in Hillary Clinton's past."

Evidently, you haven't read any of his writings. Sure, he had some "decent" quotes, but they all come from his Rules for Radicals book.

“In the beginning the organizer's first job is to create the issues or problems.” ― Saul D. Alinsky, Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals

“Let the liberal turn to the course of action, the course of all radicals, and the amused look vanishes from the face of society as it snarls, “That’s radical!” Society has good reason to fear the radical. Every shaking advance of mankind toward equality and justice has come from the radical. He hits, he hurts, he is dangerous. Conservative interests know that while liberals are most adept at breaking their own necks with their tongues, radicals are most adept at breaking the necks of conservatives.” ― Saul D. Alinsky, Reveille for Radicals

Alinsky started as a community organizer. Hillary did her thesis on him and really did admire him, and Alinsky was impressed with her and wanted her to intern for him.

When Ayers asked her to intern for him, she jumped at the chance.Snopes has information near the bottom of their page on Saul Alinsky and his Rules for Radicals, which I won't post here.

Still deflecting? - sm

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You keep posting that Hillary Clinton was asked by Bill Ayers to intern for him and she "jumped at the chance."

I have no idea where you're reading these lies (nor do I care), but posting lies over and over and over and over will not magically make them come true.

Not at all. There have been plenty of references about her relationships with Alinsky/Ayers - Truthhurts

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How about this from her own words?

The confident young student took her thesis title — “There Is Only the Fight...” — from T.S. Eliot:

"There is only the fight to recover what has been lost and found and lost again and again."

She began with a feminist jab at the clichés of male authors: "Although I have no ‘loving wife’ to thank for keeping the children away while I wrote, I do have many friends and teachers who have contributed to the process of thesis-writing.” She thanks particularly “Mr. Alinsky for providing a topic, sharing his time and offering me a job.”

I'm just doing Alinsky for now. (Emphasis added with the yellow highlighter).

The Clintons asked Wellesley College in 1993 to hide Hillary Rodham's senior thesis from Clinton biographers said her thesis adviser and friend, professor Alan H. Schechter, who describes taking the call from the White House.

"I got a call from someone at the White House — I don't remember who — shortly after the inauguration, saying the Clintons had decided not to release her thesis," professor Alan H. Schechter told MSNBC.com. "I said, 'Why? It's a good thesis.' I got some mumbo jumbo about how they were beginning to work on health care and she had criticized Sen. Moynihan in the thesis, and didn't want to alienate him." ( Yet, in her commencement speech, she criticized Sen. Brooke, MA)

So, under Wellesley's rule, Clinton's thesis became available to researchers again only after the Clintons left the White House. You won't find it online. You have to go to the college and ask to read it, which a few biographers have done, but it's probably suppressed again since she's running for president again.

Alinsky was no mere showman. He was a sometimes brutal seeker of power for others, schooling radicals with maxims such as "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it."

How about this from her own words? Her thesis title — “There Is Only the Fight...” — from T.S. Eliot:

"There is only the fight to recover what has been lost and found and lost again and again."She began with a feminist jab at the clichés of male authors: "Although I have no ‘loving wife’ to thank for keeping the children away while I wrote, I do have many friends and teachers who have contributed to the process of thesis-writing.” She thanks particularly “Mr. Alinsky for providing a topic, sharing his time and offering me a job.”

“Democracy is still a radical idea,” she wrote, “in a world where we often confuse images with realities, words with actions and yet, much of what Alinsky professes does not sound ‘radical.’ His are the words used in our schools and churches, by our parents and their friends, by our peers. The difference is that Alinsky really believes in them and recognizes the necessity of changing the present structures of our lives in order to realize them.”

“His offer of a place [the internship as a community organizer] in the new institute was tempting,” she wrote in the end notes to the thesis....“I agreed with some of Alinsky's ideas,” she explained in “Living History,” her 2003 biography, “particularly the value of empowering people to help themselves. But we had a fundamental disagreement. He believed you could change the system only from the outside. I didn't.”

Oh, and BTW, she supported Alinsky's criticism on the War on Povery programs. She gave a 1993 interview with the Washington post about the time the thesis was being sealed, “I basically argued that he was right,” she told the newspaper. “Even at that early stage I was against all these people who come up with these big government programs that were more supportive of bureaucracies than actually helpful to people. You know, I've been on this kick for 25 years.”

What happened? She's all for big government today.

Yes........ complete and utter transparent and screaming at the top of its lungs DEFLECTION. - sm

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You said: "I'm just doing Alinsky for now."

My post points out the lie that has been posted multiple times now on this board that Hillary Clinton "jumped at the chance" to intern for Bill Ayers (untrue), and now we get simply more deflection to Alinsky. LOL. You also use the term Alinsky/Ayers as if they are interchangeable and buddies. LOL. Saul Alinsky viewed activists in Students for a Democratic Society as naive and impractical and denounced the tactics of their erstwhile comrades on the militant fringe, like the Black Panthers and the Weather Underground as doomed to failure for their violent tactics and unwillingness to compromise. Alinsky denounced Ayers and his ilk many times and constantly spoke about cutting your hair, putting on a suit, and infiltrating the enemy from the bottom up. Alinsky abhorred violence. Alinsky died when Obama was 10 years old, but that doesn't stop the ignorant right-wing machine from suggesting Obama and Alinsky were all buddies from way back. LOL.

If Saul Alinsky's name was Bill Jones or John Smith, then ugly bigots like Newt Gingrich and Glenn Beck who have made Alinsky's name into a dog whistle would not even mention him. Talk about going to the oldest trick in the propaganda playbook of Joeseph Goebbels! The politics of hate that Gingrich, Limbaugh, and Beck have employed for decades has brought on today's sorry state of division in our culture, and the sooner these bigots fade from the American scene, the better off we'll all be.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Musn't criticize Alinsky too loudly. People will find out that conservative icon William F. Buckley said that Alinsky was "very close to being an organizational genius" and will find out that Dick Armey passes out Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" to right-wing Tea Partiers who use it to organize. What? How could Alinsky's "Rules" be relevant to the Tea Party? Simple. When white people talk about wanting their liberty and wanting to organize against the "machine," it sounds noble to them, and they're all buried in the book and practicing Alinsky's rules. When black, brown, red, and yellow people talk about wanting their liberty and saying the same exact things as white people, it sounds dangerous and radical to them.

Only thing I'm doing is showing that Hillary Clinton is no angel. - that's what she said-go watch the video

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She was a RADICAL! She rubbed elbows with criminals and Communists and still lies to this day. Honestly is not her forte. But, sadly, no one will believe anything that spoils her "innocence."

You are deflecting in your post, pulling in Buckley. He is not running for president. Maybe a few more articles on Hillary's background prior to the election so people can learn the truth about Hillary Clinton. In elections, all bets are off. All backgrounds are supposed to be available for perusal. Sadly, only the Democrats can hide their background.

In Barbara Olsen's book, she stated she interned for Ayers. I'm still looking. I could find no other reference for it BUT - FROM MOTHER JONES 4/17/2008 by David Corn: (one of the liberal bibles)
When it came time for questions for Wolfson, I asked an obvious one: Did Hillary Clinton believe that it had been appropriate in 2001 for President Bill Clinton to have pardoned two members of the Weather Underground as he left office? The two recipients of Clinton's munificence were Linda Evans, who was sentenced to five years in prison for her participation in a string of 1980s bombings, and Susan Rosenberg, who was charged with participating in a bank robbery that left one guard and two police officers dead. And, I continued, has Senator Clinton ever criticized this decision? Has she ever said anything publicly about it? Rosenberg, I noted, had been apprehended with 740 pounds of explosives in her possession.

Wolfson replied, "I am not aware of Linda Evans or Susan Rosenberg...hosting a political event for Senator Clinton."
I interrupted to note that I had not asked whether they had. I had asked whether Clinton had supported or opposed her husband's pardons for these two women. (I resisted the urge to throw in Marc Rich.)

THE WASHINGTON POST 5/19/2008:
"She's a hypocrite," Doris B. Walker, 89, who was a member of the American Communist Party, said in an interview last week. "She had to know who we were and what kinds of cases we were handling. We had a very left-wing reputation, including civil rights, constitutional law, racist problems."

Malcolm Burnstein, 74, a partner at the firm who worked closely with Clinton during her internship, said he was traveling in Pennsylvania in April when Clinton attacked Obama for his past interactions with William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, members of Students for a Democratic Society who went on to found the bomb-making Weather Underground.

"Given her background, it was quite hypocritical," Burnstein said. "I almost called the Philadelphia Inquirer. I saw what she and her campaign were saying about Ayers and I thought, 'Well, if you're going to talk about that totally bit of irrelevant nonsense, I'll talk about your career with us.' "

In her campaign for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, Clinton has said little about her experiences in the tumultuous late 1960s and early 1970s, including her involvement with student protests and her brief internship at the law firm, Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein. She has said she worked on a child custody case, although former partners recall her likely involvement in conscientious objector cases and a legal challenge to a university loyalty oath.

But her decision to target Obama's radical connections has spurred criticism from some former protest movement leaders who say she has opened her own associations to scrutiny.
"The very things she's accusing Barack of could be said of her with much greater evidence," said Tom Hayden, a leading anti-Vietnam War activist, author and self-described friend of the Clintons.

Bernstein: There was one other huge factor: She failed the D.C. bar exam in 1973. She never told anybody about it for the next 30 years. She finally put a line about it in her so-called autobiography about three years ago. She had been offered all these fancy jobs by Washington law firms after the impeachment committee, but in fact she couldn't have gone to work there except as a paralegal or a telephone operator, unless she took the bar again. But she passed the Arkansas bar, which Bill had urged her to take. So after Nixon resigned, she moved to Arkansas, took a job teaching at the university law school, and worked in Bill's campaign.

You win your straw man argument that Buckley "is not running for president"! LOL - sm

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You said: "You are deflecting in your post, pulling in Buckley. He is not running for president."

OMG! Not that I ever suggested that Buckley was running for president (straw man), but you got me there in that the dead guy is indeed NOT running for president. Saul Alinsky is another dead guy who is indeed not running for president either so I guess by your own criteria you'd have to agree that your discussion of Alinsky is deflection. LOL. As you cannot fail to note, I only brought up William F. Buckley in the act of discussing your preferred chosen topic of Saul Alinsky so it's mighty interesting that you would characterize my discussion of Alinsky as deflection while you insist that your own discussion of Alinsky isn't deflection. :)

You seem to want liberals to vilify Hillary because of her dishonesty; you say: "Honestly is not her forte." Why should Hillary's so-called honesty be measured any differently than any other politicians or anyone else for that matter? You yourself have stated on more than one occasion that Hillary Clinton "jumped at the chance" to intern for Bill Ayers. If you think Hillary is to be vilified for dishonesty, please let us all know how that does not equally apply to others and even yourself, as I imagine I am not the only person here still waiting for proof that Hillary interned for Bill Ayers (this never happened). You keep saying she's dishonest as if she has some human trait that other politicians or humans haven't got. LOL. You now claim that you read this fabrication in one of the (to borrow your turn of phrase) conservative bibles, the one written by Barbara Olson titled "Hell to Pay," so please do let us all know when you find out what page that fabrication is on or any proof whatsoever to back up your multiple assertions that Hillary interned for Bill Ayers. We'll surely wait.

As an admitted aside and not really deflection, I honestly wonder how proud Barbara Olson would be of her husband Ted Olson for fighting against Prop 8 in California and for taking up the battle FOR same-sex marriage in front of the Supremes? Poor Ted has lost a lot of his conservative friends for doing the right thing in fighting for equal rights for all Americans, just like our Constitution calls for. I wonder if Barbara hadn't died on 9/11 in the plane that crashed into the Pentagon, if she'd be right there at Ted Olson's side today and fighting for equality for all Americans? I guess we'll never know. Maybe she'd correct a lot of the fabrications in her conservative bible (again to borrow your phrasing) about Hillary, particularly since so many of the lies have already been weighed and measured and found false. We'll never know what her followup "bible" would have said or whether she'd back her husband's fight for equality for all Americans.

Once again, though, right-wing ideologue believers really should come to the realization that liberals don't think in the same way that they do. Liberals and Democrats absolutely DO NOT conflate religious terms with politics. Here I go again: Repeat! Liberals DO NOT conflate religion with politics. Look at the religious terms being conflated in this post: "angel," "innocence," Mother Jones described as a "liberal bible."

NOW HEAR THIS: Hillary Clinton is a politician and as such carries all the traits that you will find in any politician, including the Democrats, Republicans, and conservative and all the others. None of them is perfect, and no liberal would ever suggest that Hillary is any different. Liberals do NOT think Hillary Clinton is an angel or the picture of innocence or consider ANYTHING written to be a bible other than the Holy Bible. Religious themes to describe politicians are conservative ideas, NOT liberal ideas. Conversely, liberals also don't see Hillary as the devil either, and terms like "Communism" and "radical" that are used to scare conservatives amount to absolutely nothing to liberals, just code words that terrify different generations of people and code words that conservative politicians use like dog whistles and fingers used in order to punch their "scairdy" buttons. LOL.

Many liberals consider themselves radicals so you actually get nowhere suggesting we should fear a "RADICAL" (do you think all caps makes it scarier?). Those dog whistles and scary words only work on certain people, and liberals aren't those people.

Clinton/Castro 2016

Ok, but Adam Brandon and Dick Armey distribute Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" - to all Tea Party Leaders

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Armey calls Alinsky an "organization genius." Check the new post or this WSJ link.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204624204577177272926154002

I believe someone requested "proof" of fascism/communism influence on the Tea Party?

Game. Set. Match. Done :)

Really? A 2012 article titled: Two Ways to Play The Alinsky Card - Truthhurts

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One sentence devoted to Dick Armey and the rest to who Saul Alinsky was and represented... and in another article, Dick Armey stated:

In an interview with the Financial Times in 2009, former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey said conservatives fed up with Obama's policies could employ Alinsky's practices.

"What I think of Alinsky is that he was very good at what he did, but what he did was not good," Armey said.

Now the leader of Freedomworks, a conservative organization aligned with the tea party movement, Armey acknowledged some Alinsky-esque activities by the right-wing group.

"We don't organize people to turn up at these town-hall meetings -– we don't provide buses to get them there," he told the newspaper. "But we tell them about the meetings and we suggest good questions they could ask."

The article focused on the 2012 elections and Newt Gingrich: He raised Mr. Alinsky's name in his victory speech Saturday night after winning the South Carolina primary. On Sunday morning, Mr. Gingrich asserted on NBC that Mr. Obama draws his political vision "from Saul Alinsky, radical left-wingers and people who don't like the classical America."

One sentence devoted to Dick Armey and the rest to who Saul Alinsky was and represented...

In another article, Dick Armey, an interview with the Financial Times in 2009, former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey said conservatives fed up with Obama's policies could employ Alinsky's practices. [i'm sure this was before the Tea Party was even organized, but not sure].

"What I think of Alinsky is that he was very good at what he did, but what he did was not good," Armey said.

Now the leader of Freedomworks, a conservative organization aligned with the tea party movement, Armey acknowledged some Alinsky-esque activities by the right-wing group.

"We don't organize people to turn up at these town-hall meetings -– we don't provide buses to get them there," he told the newspaper. "But we tell them about the meetings and we suggest good questions they could ask."

IOW, I guess Dick Armey wanted to fight fire with fire, but it never happened. Back when the Tea Party formed, they remained orderly when they at a meeting or gathering. They didn't scream, yell or assault people like the unions and people who opposed the Tea Party. They kept the places that held protests or meetings "clean," no garbage or junk left behind for others to clean up. I'm not sure but I heard that whenever a member of the TP was disruptive, they were kicked out, but most of the time, the person(s) was found not to be a member but of the other side infiltrating to cause trouble.

No, the Wall Street Journal said much more than 1 sentence. - So did TPers stopped distributing it after 2012?

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I am curious as to why the rest of the WSJ article was omitted from this comment I'm replying to?

Because it was a very lengthy article and it said a lot more than 1 sentence or what was posted in this comment I'm replying to. In fact, here are 2 paragraphs of many about the Tea Party's usage of Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals." In fact, I chose these two because they're the most clear they actually tried to implement them; the WSJ says the Tea Party actually created a shortened (cliff notes?) version to distribute to their entire network:

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"Adam Brandon, spokesman for FreedomWorks, which has been organizing tea-party activists and includes Mr. Armey as chairman, says the group gives Mr. Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" to its top leadership members. A shortened guide called "Rules for Patriots" is distributed to its entire network.

Mr. Brandon called the effort to associate Mr. Obama with Mr. Alinsky "a double-edged sword." While Mr. Alinsky was an avowed liberal Democrat, "his tactics when it comes to grass-roots organizing are incredibly effective," Mr. Brandon said.

He cited the group's sending of tea-party activists to town-hall meetings. "When the first five people step up to the microphone to challenge a congressman,'' he said, "it completely changes the dynamic of the town hall—he spends all of his time defending himself."

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I'm pretty sure the WSJ trumps the Financial Times. The WSJ is considered by many to be the most reputable news publication in the country, right or left (but it's conservative).

And what does the WSJ being from 2012 have to do with it?

Do we have an article stating they STOPPED distributing it?

Even if they did, I really don't think they forgot the principles since 2012.

If they did, then we have to allow for the possibility that perhaps Hillary forgot Alinsky from her college years, then, too.

At this point, I think it's best to just concede this point about Hillary and Alinksy was lost. Otherwise, it's just digging and not helping the case.

What exactly is her connection with Ayers? - mbmt

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I researched and could not find any connection on liberal or conservative websites.

Oh, my. That sounds like the Democratic Party and - Truthhurts

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in particular, Hillary and according to your quote, "actually attempt to enforce social regimentation through labeling and limit that free speech and protest only be applied their own group - are dead giveaways of a fascist mentality."

Hillary has always labeled people and put them in a box while wanting the government to raise the children. She is also trying to limit free speech and does allow protest and free speech for only her and her ilk like the MSM.

In fact, Hillary is arm-and-arm with Hamas and Hezbollah since college. You can look up a lot of her early speeches and friendships with Ayers and Alinsky, whom she idolized.

I dread what this country would be if she becomes president. Look at the language and how she treated the Secret Service and Capital Police. Look at how she even treats Bill. Both of them, her son-in-law and her brother are quite clever in slick maneuvers and underhanded dealings (Rodham in the Haitian deal), Medvinsky's doesn't have clean hands either.

I refuse to vote for a criminal. She's been getting away with things since the '70s and it's time she gets slammed hard.

Repubs have been voting in criminals for decades. - nm

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Exhibit B - labeling what I said "democrat" tho I'm a registered indy and - said communism/fascism are the same

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I said nothing about Democrats or Republican, Hillary or anyone else but the Tea Party. I also have stated many times I am a registered independent.

Considering there appeared to be some question of what was meant in another thread by the term "fascism," I gave the Merriam-Webster dictionary definition of "fascism" and then my personal opinion that the Tea Party are the closest representatives we have of the actual definition of fascism and why I thought that way. It is my opinion and nothing more, period.

I also said that Communism (extreme liberalism) is essentially the same thing, only using/social regimenting different groups than fascists do.

I would encourage people to please read what's actually there instead of always trying to find ways to shove people and their comments into one politically labeled box or another.

The need to do so, IMO, is only further proof of a fascist mentality, not disproving it.

Deflect much? - sm

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Just when I thought they would never stop with labelling everything as Obama's fault, it seems people are so obsessed with Hillary that they can't resist turning everything into Hillary's fault. LOL.

It really is sad and pathetic to watch conservatives obsess over her every move and twist everything into a negative about Hillary.

You said: "I refuse to vote for a criminal."

Not that I care how anyone voted, but if you voted for Bush, then you voted for a criminal.

But then this thread is not about Bush or Hillary. Not everything is about Hillary nor conservatives' pathetic obsession with her that goes back decades and decades and decades and decades...... and she's still here and not going anywhere, and conservatives just look whiny, pathetic, and as obsessed as they always have and even more desperate. LOL

I'm not seeing any videos. I guess there aren't any. - Just a bunch of rhetoric.

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nm

No one said anything about video - Oh, except for the person

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that wants proof of something that wasn't said to begin with. I guess you have to find your own video of that imagination.

The OP was its own best case example according to the actual definition, no video required - "Exhibit A" ;)

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nm

Nope. No proof. Just so much blah, blah, blah, blah - blah, blah - typical

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nm

But a comment actually titled "blah blah blah" is true substance - I wish..

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...that whomever is apparently forcing these people to read others' comments would stop, so they'd be less miserable and likely to lash out at other commenters

;)

Starting a thread with an accusation and then - demanding to see videos that

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no one cares one way or the other about is what most would deem "rhetoric".

Posted this comment in the wrong place, sorry - nm

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nm

I think it was reply to the first comment - they wanted to be "shown"

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xx

Yup, I'd somehow hit "back" a page before replying, didn't realize it - it's corrected now, thank you

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nm

You won't get the proof you want as it is all just rhetoric. I will say...see msg. - Truth

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That Baltimore is a fine example of what happens when democrats rule the roost. Lack of true leadership, the downtrodden stay that way, you get the picture.

OP's riot point and yours about Baltimore: If you meant the need for screening and training a - better police force, I agree with you

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Otherwise, who's in charge government-wise has absolutely nothing to do with the OP's point about the Baltimore rioters, nor the individual choices made by SOME police officers to be negligent towards the downtrodden and the individual choices of SOME of the downtrodden to riot over it.

As far as "proof", no one accused the OP of the sorts of examples of fascism the they gave/want video for anyway. One person made a joke about Tea Party fascism in another thread, period.

IMO, the problem is the different opinions on the actual definition of fascism.

Repubs demand proof of Dem "rhetoric". Yet - they produced enough rhetoric of -

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their own to cover both parties - and then some. If the repubs want to see proof and/or videos of "rhetoric", they have only to look at their own archives.

Rhetoric - sm

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If someone said that New York City in September 2001 was a fine example of what happens when Republicans rule the roost, what would you think? Right!

Recognizing the words in the OP as "all just rhetoric"......... Truth.

Following up that rhetoric with just more rhetoric......... Priceless!

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What the hell has happened to people's ability to think through issues for themselves independently without being told what to think by their political parties????!!!! DISGUSTING!! ...

Feb 11, 2016
Bill promises you won't want to miss it. Whether you'll laugh or cry - or both - remains to be seen. ...

Sep 19, 2013
Consumer ignorance drives big jump in medical ID fraud Medical records contaminated by the perpetrator 'could actually have severe impact,' says study's sponsor, Medical Identity Fraud Alliance in Share17 » Add a comment By Antone Gonsalves September 14, 2013 — CSO — People are at an increased risk of medical identity fraud, partly because they do not recognize the life-threatening scenarios that could result ...

Mar 29, 2015
But it doesn't end there. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/03/29/former-intelligence-official-obamas-middle-east-policy-is-willful-ignorance/ ...

Jan 04, 2012
think I am just going to take tomorrow off and just stay in bed. Ex is pulling stunts again. Want to take the kids far away, but can't. He is toxic for them:( sigh. ...

Sep 18, 2012
Can anyone help me? I have hit a serious dead end. I feel unappreciated, unloved, unwanted, and every other "un" you can think of. I am tired of cooking dinner, doing the dishes, doing the laundry, cleaning the damn house, making sure every one has everything, and tired of working my sore fingers to the bone. I look out the window and feel as if the world is passing me by. People going places, smiling, laughing, having fun, and I want that. What happened? Where did my life go? Does anyon ...

Dec 17, 2012
I'm late to the gun debate on the boards, because I needed time to calm down after Friday's tragedy. I didn't want to come here all emotional and start swiping at people and coming up with totally unrealistic expectations of our country regarding gun control. But the more I thought about it, the more I realized how completely saturated we are with guns. I grew up with guns, in a house practically stuffed to the brim with them. My family are paranoid "survivalists." &n ...

Dec 11, 2014
I do not need any information about walking, exercising, know that but have some health issues that prevent a lot of that. Now let's get to the fat issue. I wish I could live off of water alone for about a month, that ought to about do it but I probably would have such a headache from lack of any solid food. I am also acknowleding the fact that a fast weight loss also means a possible fast gain back. I got all this but what I would like to know, does anyone have a really low caloric list ...

Mar 02, 2010
I have done Weight Watchers, South Beach, Sonoma, and just generally starved myself into a rage, but this newfound belly fat is hanging on! I am talking cardio for 45 minutes a day and some weight training too! My newly-toned shoulders sure do enhance my bulging middle, which actually used to indent kinda nicely, I think. I'm gonna be 50 soon. I know my hormones are in a mosh pit, but something's gotta give, right? So here's what's next.....tell me if any ...

Mar 25, 2010
The hatred on this board toward anyone who is a conservative has been absolutely rampant and so unnecessary. It has become so bad here, the only way to describe it is a disease. People have become totally obsessed with hating conservatives. There are accusations of violence, yet no proof. No videos, no voice clips, not even an iphone video or picture…nothing. All you have is someone telling you things were said and done by conservatives, yet nobody can collab ...

Apr 09, 2010
For all of you who consider pubs evil and how we are inciting violence because we are all racist bigots who hate Obama and should never protest or hold up signs opposing Obama's position on things....well....how about a dose of your own medicine. Here is a link that shows a collage of the various signs that were held up during protests by liberals during Bush's administration. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3506/3797552703_9dbdd22d38_b.jpg Also, here is a list of libera ...

May 14, 2010
Tax the rich more....tax the poor less, etc. It is my opinion that if you tax the rich more, it won't help that much considering there are so many loopholes in the tax code that I'm sure the rich will find a way to get out of paying more taxes. Why don't we just do a flat tax. That will eliminate the loopholes. Simple and easy...probably why they won't do it though. They need something confusing so the crooks in the world can get out of paying ta ...

Nov 08, 2012
"Conservatism is not so much a philosophy as an attitude, a constant force, performing a timeless function in the development of a free society, and corresponding to a deep and permanent requirement of human nature itself." As an individual who practices conservatism, I am thankful that I continue to live in a country that allows me to speak my words, that allows me to go to the school of my choice, that allows me and affords me the opportunity to make my own choices, that allows me the opportu ...

Feb 20, 2016
Get you out of bed?? I mean seriously, deep down severe fatigue?? I am having a day like that today. I haven't felt like this in a long time. It used to happen more frequently, a few times a year. When my kids were younger I would lay in bed and think my kids would come home from school with me lying in bed and unable to get up. But eventually I would be able to rouse from my fatigue and walk to the kitchen and get a cold beverage. I think for me it is hormonal ...

Dec 03, 2009
I have long hair that usually takes about 3 boxes of dye. I usually only do it about 2-3 times a year and do the all over color each time because my color tends to fade. I think hair dye might be one of those things that you get what you pay for. I usually buy the Colorsilk ($2-$3 at Walmart) because it is cheaper and I am usually broke. This year I think I will splurge a little and buy a more expensive brand. In the past I have tried the Herbal ess. and Natrual Ins ...

Apr 11, 2011
on Medicare are on the "dole" EVERYONE gets Medicare when they are 65, and it is not free, and there are deductibles that need to be met. I pay monthly for Part B coverage, suppemental insurance and pharmacy insurance, about $250 total. I have worked all my life and payed payroll taxes toward Medicare and Social Security for a good many years. I do think that it is time to raise the ceiling on income that is subject to deductions. Any income avove $120,000 is n ...

May 20, 2011
I'm ready for a peaceful, happy weekend. I hope all of you have one too. ...

Sep 05, 2012
It's like an echo. Every single person who speaks or gave a speech, and every government mayor, governor, government worker who speaks or gave a speech, are saying the exact same thing. Don't they have thoughts of their own? Can't they think for themselves? It certainly doesn't look that way. I'm surprised the women are being bamboozled so badly. It's shocking. Oh, and I love the way Debbie Wasserman-Schultz got caught in another lie and then lied about it... ...

Feb 08, 2013
Hello, I am having some health issues with my gallbladder, or so it seems. I don't have health insurance as it is not offered through my job. I can't afford to have anything done. It's really depressing to know you work for everything you have and it can be taken away from high hospital bills. I am currently taking a medical coding class. I find my stressed, tired all the time, depressed, and not to mention the "horrible" gallbladder attacks. I have changed my diet, but feel I am ...

Feb 03, 2014
I've always had an average amount of energy but lately I literally feel as if I am wading through water. I actually feel weighted down. I never used to be able to sleep anywhere but in bed, but I notice I have been nodding off in my chair even though I sleep well at night. I don't snore or have apnea. (It's been really cold here, and I find the nodding off occurs in my recliner when I have a blanket on me.) My diet isn't that unhealthy, but it is pretty monotonous. I fi ...

Mar 10, 2015
Boy, I would sure love some real truth for a change. I am sick and tired of these excuses and lies that the Democrats give for everything and am sick of Mr. O saying he didn't know till he heard it on the news or it's someone else's fault. That is like my ex-husband blaming me for his wife's children renigging on a loan and him going bankrupt and other things like this he always accused me of. Nothing to do with me at all or our son. Anyway, I am more than ready for a ...

Mar 31, 2015
Before someone says way they were raised, both kids grown and difference between night and day. I just called my daughter to ask a simple question. She works with math, I am slow with it. She does a short form income tax each year, I itemize. My question was what was the standard deduction for a person on short form. I got so much talk back it was unreal from different places charge different, you have to know this and that and I said maybe I am not making myself clear and repeated, saying just ...

Feb 19, 2011
This board is a prime example of double standards from both sides, hypocrisy on both sides, and the blind following their choosen herd without trying to see for themselves. I'm just tired of it all. Thanks for the rant. I had to get that off of my chest. ...