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Black unemployment up. Where's Al? Where's Jesse?

Posted: Sep 6, 2013

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what do you mean? - sm

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I realize they are black, but what do Al and Jesse have to do with employment?

...or Morgan Freeman - sm

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They refuse to comment when their dear chosen - xx

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one, the prince of darkness, whom they elected into office would look bad.

what do these men have to do with employment? - sm

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Chosen One and Prince of Darkness all in one post? The only connection to be made here is a racial one. I don't understand what you are trying to say.

It's not brain surgery, hun. What is their purpose (sm) - me

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exactly? Aren't they supposed to advance the cause of their people? Is helping them get jobs out of the realm of possibility here? It seems all they do is B**CH and moan when one of their own is put upon in some way. Shouldn't they be helping them get ahead in life? For example, make speeches to all the baby daddies running loose who don't pay child support or participate in their offsprings' lives? All they do is give stupid speeches about "rights". Isn't it their "right" to have a job? Why should their unemployment rate be zooming up since they have a black President? Something isn't right here and the big mouths should be getting involved.

your post is race baiting and profane - what's your purpose

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Some people simply do not understand high - purpose or serving all. nm

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Big Talk Hiding Behind A Computer - Disgusted

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And I don't mind telling you that I have reported this offensive hate-mongering post of yours. There is nothing political or constructive in anything you have said in this hate speech. I wonder if my black face was standing in front of yours if you would have the guts to say what you have said while hiding behind your computer. Have a beautiful weekend my dear!

You don't think black leaders should help their fellow man? - Truthhurts

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This is what I don't understand. Black unemployment higher than white and Hispanic unemployment, yet you take issue with it because black leader's names were given?

They (especially Sharpton and Jackson) SHOULD be out there helping, not hindering; but all their speeches seem to blame the white race for all their troubles. The Black Caucus does the same in Congress.

Do you think that really helps black unemployment or do you think it IS the white race that is really the problem?

I think the OP's post was correct and I'm not making this a racist or hate-mongering post as you seem to think. I'm trying to understand why YOU think it's offensive.

Care to discuss instead of reporting right away?

she was responding to the brain surgery post, TH - sm

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You can read it above. It is a disgusting post and I hope you would agree it has no place on this forum.

Let's not be disingenuous about the tone of the post. It wasn't about helping our fellow man. If it WERE about OUR fellow man, we would have been spared catch-phrases like babby daddy, child support, and dog whistles like "one of their own," "THEY have a black president," and "B**TCH and moan".

TH,I was replying to the Brain Surgery post - Disgusted

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And why do you ass/u/me that I think the "white" race is the problem?? Let me tell you something, I see the HUMAN race okay? I have a mixed race family that is beautiful so I'm not about to hop on any black versus white bandwagon with you because that is not what I am about. The Brain Surgery post was offensive and it was pointing at one group of people. Plain and simple.

Typical B.S. They are leaders. Supposed to be, anyway. - nm

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nm

Sharpton and Jackson along with others all believe - Truthhurts

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the white race is the problem...and because of your sentence, " I wonder if my black face was standing in front of yours if you would have the guts to say what you have said while hiding behind your computer."

..... turned it into an entirely different meaning.

No, TH, that's not what THEY all believe - ann other

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It's what YOU believe THEY believe, and that is, as they say, a horse of a different color.

There is nothing to substantiate your claim regarding what Sharpton and Jackson, along with others, "all believe".

Excuse me TH, but....(sm) - Jess Me

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When the previous poster used phrases such as "their people", "baby daddies", "don't pay child support", he or she turned this thread it into an entirely different meaning. But you don't seem to have anything negative to say about about that post. Hmmmm......

One more thing, TH..why did you single out... - Jess Me

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..the one person in this thread who said she was black?????

That has zero (0) - to do with not wanting to go to war. - War=employment? WTH?? (sm)

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I really do think liberals are insane. It's the only explanation for the bull stink. Trying to compare going to serve in Obama's war to employment or lack thereof is nuts. Stupidity abounds.

that makes zero (0) sense - whiskey tango

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What on earth are you referring to? The poster you responded to said nothing about war. The OP said nothing about war. Stupidity abounds?

Most humble apologies. - It was posted in the wrong place.

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nm

Ummm, a couple of facts seem to be in order. - sm

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Perhaps they are busy gathering some facts. An example of a fact would be the following statement: Under Obama (so far), the unemployment rate has DECREASED by a larger percentage than any other president (at least since 1949), falling from 10% to 7.3%, down 2.7%. There is no reason to believe the rate will have a sudden or significant reversal its steady decline. BTW, 7.3% is the lowest its been in almost 5 years. This would tend to argue against gloom and doom alarmist in the winger camp that claim the economy is on the verge of collapse.

Another example would be the data below which shows beginning and ending UE rates under dem and GOP presidents dating back to 1949. It also shows the percentage of increasing (+) or decreasing (-) changes (bold type) in the rate. Notice how UE rates have net average decreases under democratic presidents and and net average increases under GOP presidents, with only one exception.

Civilian Unemployment Rate,U.S. Department of Labor: Bureau of Labor Statistics

period start end chng President Party Jan 1949 Jan 1953 4.3 2.9 -1.4 Truman Democrat

Jan 1953 Jan 1957 2.9 4.2 +1.3 Eisenhower 1 GOP

Jan 1957 Jan 1961 4.2 6.6 +2.4 Eisenhower 2 GOP

Jan 1961 Jan 1965 6.6 4.9 -1.7 JFK/Johnson Democrat

Jan 1965 Jan 1969 4.9 3.4 -1.5 Johnson Democrat

Jan 1969 Jan 1973 3.4 4.9 +1.5 Nixon GOP

Jan 1973 Jan 1977 4.9 7.5 +2.6 Nixon/Ford GOP

Jan 1977 Jan 1981 7.5 7.5 0.0 Carter Democrat

Jan 1981 Jan 1985 7.5 7.3 -0.2 Reagan I GOP

Jan 1985 Jan 1989 7.3 5.4 -1.9 Reagan II GOP

Jan 1989 Jan 1993 5.4 7.3 +1.9 Bush, GHW GOP

Jan 1993 Jan 1997 7.3 5.3 -2.0 Clinton I Democrat

Jan 1997 Jan 2001 5.3 4.2 -1.1 Clinton II Democrat

Jan 2001 Jan 2005 4.2 5.2 +1.0 Bush, GW I GOP

Jan 2005 Aug 2008 5.2 6.1 +0.9 Bush, GW II GOP

Since 1928 there have been 13 presidents, 7 Republicans (Hoover, Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush Sr, and Bush Jr) and 6 Democrats (FDR, Truman, JFK, Johnson, Carter and Clinton).

Six of the seven Republican Presidents had unemployment increase while in office. Ronald Reagan is the only Republican President since 1928 to leave office with a lower unemployment rate.

All six Democratic Presidents had unemployment decrease or stay the same while in office. The worst Democratic performance was Jimmy Carter, who had neigher a net gain nor a net loww in the unemployment rate.

Has your nifty little chart taken into (sm) - me

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consideration the number of people who have stopped looking or are just too lazy to work and would rather have the free stuff?

This is ALWAYS the RW's comeback when - faced with

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these incontrovertible facts.

Here's another one for ya. EVERY data set on UE rates is flawed in that respect, regardless of whose administration is under scrutiny. Hence, one could also conclude that all the RISES in UE rates under GOP watch were deceptively conservative estimates and were actually higher, since that is a data set that cannot be accurately measured.

Therefore, this is no less of a moot point now than it was the last time it was posted by wingers who otherwise cannot comment on the labor stats that fly in the face of their aforementioned unfounded, not-a-leg-to-stand-on gloom and doom scenarios.

Oh, c'mon. Really? Did you count part timers? - nm

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nm

I posted Labor Dept stats that measure all that - and more.

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Their records are comprehensive, thorough and reach far back into our past. That particular graph was derived from their archives. It was published for educational, not political purposes. The conventional methods they use to arrive at those averages are a synthesis of all kinds of different measures, including part-time employment.

When it comes to measuring employment, Americans, whether they be politicians and their advisers, Wall Street analysts, financial planners and advisers, bankers, investors, business administrators, academics, or just plain old ordinary citizens turn to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics for their info, not ax-grinding Obama haters who have deluded themselves into believing they can win future elections with their non-stop lies and deceit.

Here's a little tidbit for you. (sm) - LM

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90,473,000 - RECORD number not in labor force, UP almost 10 MILLION under Obama. Add that to your chart.
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