Advice Please
Posted: Jun 21, 2014
I don't know if I need advice or just want to vent.
My husband and I enjoy having close friends over, going out to dinner with them, doing get togethers and other such things. Out of 4 couples, 2 of the couples are so dysfunctional that it makes me crazy. No alcohol is involved here, so we can't even blame that.
I don't claim to know what goes on behind closed doors, but when we're all together, it's the women who fly off the handle at their husbands for the stupidest things. You know, stuff like husband drops a crumb, husband spills a drink/knocks over a glass accidentally. Husband said they went to the movies at 2, wife starts a fight that it was 2:30. These are the same women who have done the same imperfect things we humans do. I'm not talking just annoyed, I'm talking flying off the handle. It gets so bad, that now of course the husbands are fighting back. I find it interesting that neither of these women flies off the handle if I spill something, drop a crumb, or whatever.
I am so tired of trying to keep things upbeat. Before anyone gets started here on "bipolar" or "mental illness," I'll stop you right now, because as I noted above, they only do it with their husband. If someone is truly mentally ill and/or has a chemical imbalance, they'd be flying off the handle with everyone, including the mailman if the mailman did something less than perfect. So don't try that one with me.
I almost don't want to hang out with these people anymore, but we do truly know how to have fun--but something gets ruined somewhere along the line. Note that these people get along fine with everyone else in their world.
You people who are flying off the handle all the time for really stupid reasons, are you really even thinking about the position you are putting everyone else in the room in? It's very uncomfortable for those of us who just want to relax and enjoy your company.
Geez, people. Life is short. Are those dumb things really the hill you want to die on?;
If they are not contributing to the quality - of your life
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You don't need them in your life.
Can you just invite the husbands?
If you decide to stop inviting these couples and they ask you why, tell them the truth.
I did finally say something - A couple of times
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We all really have a lot of laughs in general, so I would say they add something to my life.
I did say actually say to one of the couples, "I just want to relax and enjoy my friends without someone going ballistic." I was matter of fact about it and polite. They did get a little defensive, but I think I gave them something to think about.
I'm also here to give everyone something to think about. For instance, when one's husband does something less than perfect, what is said wife thinking about me when I do something less than perfect? Is her attitude only reserved for her husband but feels free to say something to him, and she's keeping quiet and polite when I do something?
Outbursts at one's spouse can make everyone feel uncomfortable when we do the same thing. The one husband accidentally broke a glass at my house and his wife went kablonkers. A few weeks later, I broke something at their house, and while wife said it was okay, maybe she isn't okay with it. I do suspect she only feels anger towards her husband when he's less than perfect, though.
I think it's wacky to get wacky over stupid things. I know for sure if my husband went nutso on me for making human mistakes, I wouldn't want to stick around, and I would not expect him to stick around if I did the same to him.
I had friends where the wife did that. No surprise, - they are divorced now
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I think that kind of behavior is a sign that there are deep fissures in their relationship. I did call my friend out on it one night, and she sort of thought about it. We lost touch after that, though.
I agree with you that it's wacky to get up set about that kind of stuff, but when the couples don't listen to each other any more and are just in the habit of pushing each other's buttons, there's not much that can be done.
Yup - OP
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I agree. I have noticed over the 10 years they've been married, she's gotten worse. He basically just puts up with it, because if he doesn't, she just gets worse. It's just weird--she's so kind and sweet to the rest of the world.
IMHO, there is no reason to call someone an a****** because they dribbled some food. I think she's asking for trouble---like he'll either leave or do something bad behind her back with someone else.
Or maybe he does it good?? - sm
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Sorry, couldn't resist.
I think the best thing to do is cut them off the - guest list. If they ask why, tell them.
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Resentment - sm
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You're right. No one knows what goes on behind closed doors, but it's very possible that these women are nursing some painful wounds inflicted by their husbands. Infidelity? Neglect? Gambling problem? Who knows? Maybe the women are just frustrated with their lives in general and the husbands seem to be the most convenient dumping ground. In any case, there is no excuse for behaving that way around one's friends. It makes everyone uncomfortable, and it's rude and selfish. Just putting out a theory on the possible reasons behind it.
Hard to Know - OP
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And it's hard to know if there's a chicken-egg thing. Like, who started the name calling so long ago, and now the other spouse is retaliating.
I still say name-calling (even in private) is a big, fat no-no. And nobody should be ridiculed for spilling food.
They have no kids, so I say if you're so miserable that you have to be spouting out horrible names/words, then just get out.
hormones? - sm
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I have a sister who does that and it's just because she has fibroids. She'll get so mad at something she cries, then 2 minutes later has forgotten all about it and is laughing and making jokes. I used to be like that too before I had my hysterectomy so maybe that could have something to do with it. If its any consolation to you they're probably miserable because they do it but they don't realize that they do. I know I didn't until about 2 years after my hysterectomy I thought "hey, I don't feel like screaming all the time any more!" Man it was rough.
Hormonal reasons work to a point - OP
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Thanks, I wondered that, but if there's a hormonal or other chemical situation going on, then this woman would be going kablonkers on everyone. She only does it with her husband. So, that wouldn't really fit.
I do know that deep inside she's extremely insecure, but I don't think going off on her husband for every little thing is going to build any sense of security. If anything, it will push him out the door.
If a pretty girl walks by, she calls him an a****** whether or not he even looks at the girl or not. It just sort of flies out of her mouth. Oh, that's going to endear him to her. Just gets annoying on my end.
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