President Bush - Linda

Gee, there for a moment I thought you were talking about Obama. - Backwards Typist

Established facts vs ill informed speculation. No contest there. - Nice try but no cigar.

Not all are established facts. - Backwards Typist

You dont remember hunker down in the bunker day? - How quickly we do forget. sm

I really don't see your point here. - sm

What I realize is - sm

No one was prepared, not even during - Backwards Typist

And also to remind regressives of the extent of - the mess O has to clean up

no, that could have been cleaned up a long time ago - but he prefers to continue on

What clean up has Obama done? - sm

I finished the 911 report. Here's my conclusions plus excerpts - Backwards Typist

From reading document 1…all 854 pages (report from the 911 commission), I came to a few conclusions:

1. There are too many fingers in the pot concerning protecting the U.S. from terrorist attacks. The left hand didn’t know what the right hand is doing and if they did, they didn’t pay much attention to it.


2. A president relies on the CIA, FBI, Defense Dept., Pentagon, to hash out plans and cooperate for  solutions and suggest plans that could be put into play. This did not happen.


3. Condoleezza Rice was not a very good boss; i.e., very large ego and thwarted quite a few plans that Hadley, Clarke, and Ashcroft wanted implemented prior to 911.


4. Warnings were not acted upon in due time, both by the CIA and FBI. The attack was ASSUMED to happen in another country, not here.


5. Money for anti-terrorism was in short supply and most often defense spending was refused extra $$ by others (not Bush).


6. Bush was first informed by Condoleezza Rice that a twin engine aircraft; i.e., small plane, struck the WTC.


7. Bush wanted to go back to Washington, but was persuaded not to do so by Cheney and the Secret Service.


8. At no time was the President "missing for 12 hours" according to that website. Anyone who was a higher up knew exactly where he was. Otherwise, how would they have pinpointed time and destinations?


9. 911 did not have to happen.

 Underline and bold are used to point out important facts. The report had so many important parts in it that I would have blown MTStars server, so I limited them to Bush’s day……for now.

 At 8:55, before entering the classroom, the President spoke to National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, who was at the White House. She recalled first telling the President it was a twin-engine aircraft—and then a commercial aircraft—that had struck the World Trade Center, adding “that’s all we know right now, Mr. President.”184…….

 Elsewhere in the White House, a series of 9:00 meetings was about to begin. In the absence of information that the crash was anything other than an accident, the White House staff monitored the news as they went ahead with their regular schedules.186 ,,,,,,,,,,

 The NMCC officer who participated told us that the call was monitored only periodically because the information was sporadic,it was of little value, and there were other important tasks.The FAA manager of the teleconference also remembered that the military participated only briefly before the Pentagon was hit.. . . .

 At the White House, the video teleconference was conducted from the Situation Room by Richard Clarke, a special assistant to the president long involved in counterterrorism. Logs indicate that it began at 9:25 and included the CIA; the FBI; the departments of State, Justice, and Defense; the FAA; and the White House shelter. The FAA and CIA joined at 9:40. The first topic addressed in the White House video teleconference—at about 9:40—was the physical security of the President, the White House, and federal agencies. Immediately thereafter it was reported that a plane had hit the Pentagon.We found no evidence that video teleconference participants had any prior information that American 77 had been hijacked and was heading directly toward Washington. Indeed, it is not clear to us that the video teleconference was fully under way before 9:37, when the Pentagon was struck.189 .. . . .

 The President was seated in a classroom when,at 9:05, Andrew Card whispered to him: “A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack.” The President told us his instinct was to project calm, not to have the country see an excited reaction at a moment of crisis. The President remained in the classroom for another five to seven minutes, while the children continued reading. He then returned to a holding room shortly before 9:15, where he was briefed by staff and saw television coverage. He next spoke to Vice President Cheney, Dr.Rice, NewYork Governor George Pataki, and FBI Director Robert Mueller. He decided to make a brief statement from the school before leaving for the airport. The Secret Service told us they were anxious to move the President to a safer location, but did not think it imperative for him to run out the door.204 . . . .

 Between 9:15 and 9:30, the staff was busy arranging a return to Washington, while the President consulted his senior advisers about his remarks. No one in the traveling party had any information during this time that other aircraft were hijacked or missing. Staff was in contact with the White House Situation Room, but as far as we could determine, no one with the President was in contact with the Pentagon.The focus was on the President’s statement to the nation.The only decision made during this time was to return to Washington.205 . . . .

 The President’s motorcade departed at 9:35, and arrived at the airport between 9:42 and 9:45.During the ride the President learned about the attack on the Pentagon. He boarded the aircraft, asked the Secret Service about the safety of his family, and called the Vice President. According to notes of the call, at about 9:45 the President told the Vice President:“ Sounds like we have a minor war going on here, I heard about the Pentagon.We’re at war . . . somebody’s going to pay.”206

 About this time, Card, the lead Secret Service agent, the President’s military aide, and the pilot were conferring on a possible destination for Air Force One. The Secret Service agent felt strongly that the situation in Washington was too unstable for the President to return there, and Card agreed. The President strongly wanted to return to Washington and only grudgingly agreed to go elsewhere.The issue was still undecided when the President conferred with the Vice President at about the time Air Force One was taking off. The Vice President recalled urging the President not to return to Washington. Air Force One departed at about 9:54 without any fixed destination. (my emphasis).  The objective was to get up in the air—as fast and as high as possible—and then decide where to go.207 . . . . .

  While the plan at the elementary school had been to return to Washington, by the time Air Force One was airborne at 9:55 A.M. the Secret Service, the President’s advisers, and Vice President Cheney were strongly advising against it. President Bush reluctantly acceded to this advice and, at about 10:10, Air Force One changed course and began heading due west. The immediate objective was to find a safe location—not too far away—where the President could land and speak to the American people.The Secret Service was also interested in refueling the aircraft and paring down the size of the traveling party.The President’s military aide, an Air Force officer, quickly researched the options and, sometime around 10:20, identified Barksdale Air Force Base as an appropriate interim destination.2

 When Air Force One landed at about 11:45, personnel from the local Secret Service office were still en route to the airfield.The motorcade consisted of a military police lead vehicle and a van; the proposed briefing theater had no phones or electrical outlets. Staff scrambled to prepare another room for the President’s remarks, while the lead Secret Service agent reviewed the security situation with superiors in Washington.The President completed his statement, which for security reasons was taped and not broadcast live, and the traveling party returned to Air Force One.The next destination was discussed: once again the Secret Service recommended against returning to Washington, and the Vice President agreed. Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska was chosen because of its elaborate command and control facilities, and because it could accommodate overnight lodging for 50 persons. The Secret Service wanted a place where the President could spend several days, if necessary.3

 Air Force One arrived at Offutt at 2:50 P.M. At about 3:15, President Bush met with his principal advisers through a secure video teleconference.4 Rice said President Bush began the meeting with the words,“We’re at war,”5 and that Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet said the agency was still assessing who was responsible, but the early signs all pointed to al Qaeda.6That evening the Deputies Committee returned to the pending presidential directive they had labored over during the summer.7

 In the late afternoon, the President overruled his aides’ continuing reluctance to have him return to Washington and ordered Air Force One back to Andrews Air Force Base.He was flown by helicopter back to theWhite House, passing over the still-smoldering Pentagon.At 8:30 that evening,President Bush addressed the nation from the White House. After emphasizing that the first priority was to help the injured and protect against any further attacks, he said: “We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.” He quoted Psalm 23—“though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death . . .” No American, he said,“will ever forget this day.”10

 On the morning of 9/11, the President and Vice President stayed in contact not by an open line of communication but through a series of calls.The President told us he was frustrated with the poor communications that morning. He could not reach key officials, including Secretary Rumsfeld, for a period of time.The line to the White House shelter conference room—and the Vice President—kept cutting off.212 . . . .

You got that right! ..and the Bush bashing is so useless - now that Obama is even worse.nm

Yeah? -and Obama made it so simple by just flushing - his country down the toilet!.nm