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Posted: Mar 23, 2010
common sense American patriot from the New England states, excluding our periennal black sheep state New Hampshire. We don't abide fool's errands and welcome the new healthcare bill. We voted for Obama and appreciate that he has fulfilled his campaign promise. The polls are starting to show approval of the bill.
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Where do the polls state that? - People say we are socialists.
[ In Reply To ..]Well then I need to move near you, because where I am at (DEMOCRATIC STATE) people are pissed off and I mean they are ticked off and hope to God Obama is out next term.
The polls I am seeing are opposite of what you say. Not one thing positive from where I am at.
Poll Reveals 46% of Doctors Would Quit - From New England Journal of Medicine
[ In Reply To ..]Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A new poll that should cause significant concerns for backers of the pro-abortion Senate health care bill finds nearly half the nation's physicians would consider quitting if the bill becomes law. The survey, appearing in the New England Journal of Medicine, indicates 46 percent of doctors would consider leaving their practice.
The poll finds 46.3% of primary care physicians (family medicine and internal medicine) feel that the passing of a public option will either force them out of medicine or make them want to leave medicine.
Doctors also seem to understand the impact that will have as 72% of physicians feel that a public option would have a negative impact on physician supply, with 45% feeling it will âdecline or worsen dramaticallyâ and 27% predicting it will âdecline or worsen somewhat.
The medical journal issued an editorial saying it didn't think that many doctors would quit but did worry about the adverse impact.
âWhile a sudden loss of half of the nations physicians seems unlikely, a very dramatic decrease in the physician workforce could become a reality as an unexpected side effect of health reform," it said.
Another 62.7% of physicians feel that health reform is needed but should be implemented in a more targeted, gradual way, as opposed to the sweeping overhaul that is in legislation.
The respected medical journal also found 41% of physicians feel that income and practice revenue will âdecline or worsen dramaticallyâ and 30% feel income will âdecline or worsen somewhatâ with a public option.
Just 28.7 percent of doctors support the pro-abortion health care bill pending in the House
The Medicus Firm, a leading physician search and consulting firm based in Atlanta and Dallas, conducted the survey.
Kevin Perpetua, managing partner for the Medicus Firm, commented on the study, according to CNS News.
âMany physicians feel that they cannot continue to practice if patient loads increase while pay decreases,â Perpetua said in the study. âThe overwhelming prediction from physicians is that health reform, if implemented inappropriately, could create a detrimental combination of circumstances, and result in an environment in which it is not possible for most physicians to continue practicing medicine.â
âHealth-care reform and increasing government control of medicine may be the final straw that causes the physician workforce to break down," he concluded.
360,000 doctors would consider quitting out of 800,000. - American Medical Association
[ In Reply To ..]wo of every three practicing physicians oppose the medical overhaul plan under consideration in Washington, and hundreds of thousands would think about shutting down their practices or retiring early if it were adopted, a new IBD/TIPP Poll has found.
The poll contradicts the claims of not only the White House, but also doctors' own lobby â the powerful American Medical Association â both of which suggest the medical profession is behind the proposed overhaul.
It also calls into question whether an overhaul is even doable; 72% of the doctors polled disagree with the administration's claim that the government can cover 47 million more people with better-quality care at lower cost.
The IBD/TIPP Poll was conducted by mail the past two weeks, with 1,376 practicing physicians chosen randomly throughout the country taking part. Responses are still coming in, and doctors' positions on related topics â including the impact of an overhaul on senior care, medical school applications and drug development â will be covered later in this series.
Major findings included:
⢠Two-thirds, or 65%, of doctors say they oppose the proposed government expansion plan. This contradicts the administration's claims that doctors are part of an "unprecedented coalition" supporting a medical overhaul.
It also differs with findings of a poll released Monday by National Public Radio that suggests a "majority of physicians want public and private insurance options," and clashes with media reports such as Tuesday's front-page story in the Los Angeles Times with the headline "Doctors Go For Obama's Reform."
Nowhere in the Times story does it say doctors as a whole back the overhaul. It says only that the AMA â the "association representing the nation's physicians" and what "many still regard as the country's premier lobbying force" â is "lobbying and advertising to win public support for President Obama's sweeping plan."
The AMA, in fact, represents approximately 18% of physicians and has been hit with a number of defections by members opposed to the AMA's support of Democrats' proposed health care overhaul.
⢠Four of nine doctors, or 45%, said they "would consider leaving their practice or taking an early retirement" if Congress passes the plan the Democratic majority and White House have in mind.
More than 800,000 doctors were practicing in 2006, the government says. Projecting the poll's finding onto that population, 360,000 doctors would consider quitting.
What a crock! Though the docs in this...sm - nosa
[ In Reply To ..]country are spoiled beyond belief, there is no way they will find something better elsewhere. They will do just fine with the new bill and will admit it if they are honest. The best docs care more about good patient care then how much they make. None of them are remotely underpaid.
I agree! Tell me where they plan to go? Where? - huh?
[ In Reply To ..]There is nowhere to go, except maybe to the Arab Emirates or Africa!
China, India, Japan, New Zealand,...no where...sm - nosa
[ In Reply To ..]in the world do doctors have it as good as ithe USA, and the healthcare bill will essentially do nothing to change that, chaching, chaching! The doctors the are ignored and not appreciated are the primary care doctors, and this bill will reward them for their dedication.
Wow. You have some kind of nerve. I know a doctor - who is a specialist, so did not become
[ In Reply To ..]a doctor til his 30s, then spent many years paying back loans. Throughout the years, has had to work harder for less pay as Medicare decides to makes cuts. ..and now this. So, you say "spoiled beyond belief"? Who taught you that-- Obama? Many doctors care, and they deserve to get paid too. Are you a doctor? If not, you should stop with the ignorant comments. You should be ashamed.
Talk about nerve! My doctor lived right nextdoor - to me. Yep.
[ In Reply To ..]He moved nextdoor and rented a house! He could not afford yet a house and was paying off his loans. He was here for 2 years, got fed up what the hospital did to him, no bonus, cut in pay and he left with his family to another state. Sounds like what MQ is doing to its MT's.
Most of the crap doctors I transcribe for should - consider quitting, anyway.
[ In Reply To ..]nm
Where is your brain? There is/was no pro-abortion...am - educatethyself
[ In Reply To ..]bill in Congress. The Medicus Firm? People need to verify their sources of information! I cannot believe the garbage you people find on google and swear is true! Is this not an MT board. Has no one learned that google is a tool, that you have to have some intelligence to distinguish the wacky sites from the sites that are credible? Why does that change when it comes to politics? Just saying.....
Pro-abortion bill? I thought Rep Stupak - had an executive order from Obama
[ In Reply To ..]which is why he and some other Dems voted yes on this health care bill thinking the health care bill could change to pro-life and none of our tax dollars and money would fund abortion. But the Supreme Court is higher than Obama and can throw it all out the window.
I was surprised to see women's reproductive rights groups use words like "betrayal," "onerous," and "unacceptable" in reaction to Sunday night's passage of the health care reform bill. (Then again, I was shocked to hear a Republican congressman shout "Baby killer" across the House floor at Democratic Rep. Bart Stupak, an avid opponent of abortion.) Coverage of abortion services took center stage in the days leading up to the bill's passage, with President Obama promising to sign an executive order that no federal funds will be used to cover abortions. In the end, no one is particularly happy with the compromise.
The National Right to Life Committee, an antiabortion group, referred to the legislation as "a pro-abortion bill" and said Obama's executive order "changes nothing" and doesn't fix any of the "pro-abortion provisions in the bill." House Republican Leader John Boehner agreed, telling his colleagues in this blog post that a yes vote on the legislation was a "vote for taxpayer-funded abortions." On the opposing side, the Center for Reproductive Rights issued a statement saying, "It is unacceptable that a pro-choice president has put his imprimatur on a highly restrictive and unjust anti-choice measure." Catholics for Choice called it a "step backward for women's rights."
http://www.usnews.com/health/blogs/on-women/2010/03/23/health-reform-where-women-stand-to-gain
Article by Dr. Elaina George - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Depend On The Government For Your Health Care? Good Luckâ¦by Dr. Elaina George
The vote is done and we have awakened to a new era. Under the guise of coverage for pre-existing conditions and the security of knowing that you canât be kicked off your insurance when you really need it, the democrats have pushed through a bill which will lead to the end of health care as we know it.
Besides taxing us from everything from our unearned income, to payroll taxes to medical devices we can look forward to paying into a pot for the next four years. I only hope the money will be available for health care. As it stands now, it will be used to set up yet another government bureaucracy run by various task forces and yet another Czar to oversee the entire mess. If weâre lucky they will actually use the money for the intended purpose, but I have visions of the social security lock box. It is hard to believe that this will end up any better than Medicare, The Post Office or Social Security â big, bloated and bankrupt.
The bill sets up committees to study ways to deliver care. A committee to study what another committee is supposed to do? Sounds like bureaucracy at its finest. It is hard to believe that that money used to âstudyâ things will be used for patient care. By the time 2014 rolls around what money will be left to implement medical care?
The government sold health care reform with 5 basic talking points:
1. You wonât be able to be kicked off of your insurance when you really need it
â¢Turns out that the insurance companies CAN kick you off if they pay a fine. It is not hard to imagine that an insurance company will figure out pretty quickly that it would be cheaper to pay the fine than to pay for coverage of a long term chronic illness.
2. You wonât be denied medical care for pre-existing conditions.
â¢If the insurance company deems that you have lied on the application you will be denied coverage.
â¢Sick children are no longer considered to have pre-existing conditions, but what about women who are pregnant?
3. You can keep the doctor you have if you are already covered.
â¢With the cuts in Medicare reimbursements that have already happened (no more consultation fees) and the looming 21% cut at the end of October. Many more physicians than the current 30% are looking to opt out of Medicare. When the commercial insurance reimbursement rates drop (as they invariably will since they pay at a percentage of Medicare) there will be more doctors looking to leave commercial insurance as well.
4. Health care reform will lead to increased access
â¢There is no way that there will be an increase in access when you take into account; 1) the physician shortage, 2) Those physicians who will leave medicine after the passage of this monstrosity (a recent poll of physicians states that 35% would leave the profession), and 3) those who will stop taking insurance all together because they are simply fed up.
â¢Expanding Medicaid to those who are currently uninsured is not going to help since most doctors are not taking Medicaid now. Currently access to specialists is pretty poor, it will decline further.
5. Health care reform will cover 30 million more uninsured people
â¢The bill will cover approximately 7 million more people over the next nine years and leave over 100 million people under insured.
6. The health care reform bill will decrease the deficit
â¢The CBO numbers do not take into account the âdoctor fixâ and the government takeover of student loans was added to pad the numbers.
â¢If you do real world accounting by adding in the âdoctor fixâ (over 230 million dollars) you actually wipe out the cost savings and you increase the deficit (anywhere from 400-700 million dollars.)
â¢It is likely that the estimated costs will likely be much higher. How can anyone really know what is going to happen in the next 10 years. To say that these numbers are optimistic is being kind.
â¢The Health care reform bill has done absolutely NOTHING that would really lower the cost of health care.
The pharmaceutical companies got three major cost raising concessions
- the government cannot go out of the country to shop for cheaper drugs
- the patent for biologics was extended to 12 years from 7 thereby locking out cheaper generic drugs. (For example a patient can continue to pay over $1000 a month for a drug like Embrel instead of getting some relief.
- patients will not be able to buy cheaper over the counter medications with their health savings account only more expensive prescription medication.
The health insurance companies may whine about their profit margin, but they get millions more people to add to their roles. Most of those people will only see a doctor 1-2 times a year for routine things, but will pay 14% higher premiums for the privilege.
The hospitals which account for the biggest piece of the Healthcare pie (31%) got a pass. Surgeons have had to deal with bundling of charges for over a decade. What about applying that to hospitals? That would have certainly lowered the cost. Since bankruptcy caused by medical costs are largely due to the hospital charges.
- There has been no legislation to change their habit of itemized billing where they stand to make a profit on everything from the single pill of Tylenol to the box of Kleenex in your hospital room.
I got a call from a fellow physician today who talked about picking up stakes and doing medical work overseas. I have a feeling I am going to get a lot more of those types of calls from fellow physicians in private practice. There are only so many physicians that the hospitals can employ and only so many more patients a physician can see.
It seems that the ultimate goal of this exercise is to eventually make all physicians government employees under a single payer system. As it stands the system created by health care reform is a give away to the pharmaceutical industry and the health insurance industry (you just need to look at the rise in their stocks today). It certainly can be seen as the first step on a slippery slope towards single payer. The powers that be are banking on physicians going along like lemmings, but I have no doubt that if we donât they will institute some sort of draconian policy to make us do it like they have in Massachusetts (medical licensure is tied to taking the state insurance plan). If that happens, good luck finding a physician who will want to deal with this.
I have more confidence in the doctors in....sm - oldtimer
[ In Reply To ..]than to believe they will abondon their profession and their patients because of this new healthcare bill. Only time will tell.
Many will take early retirement. I know some, and they - are great doctors, IMO, just disgusted.nm
[ In Reply To ..]nm
No wonder you chose not to post a source link. - Not a grain of truth in this to this.
[ In Reply To ..]Entire article centers around false premise. There is no proabortion language anywhere in the HCR bill. Cons news services are manufacturing and building a new world order of parallel universe delusional existentialism in these stories that are destined to be trumped over and over and over again by reality.
Just keep in mind that Social Security and Medicare managed to stand the test of time quite nicely, as will Obamacare health care reform.
You need to speak for yourself - You do not speak for all of New England
[ In Reply To ..]If you want to be an ostrich with it's head stuck in the sand that is your problem, but do not be so arrogant like your Dear Leader and speak for all of New England. Last I new New Hampshire was part of New England, which goes to show your post is ridiculous.
Not all of New England voted for him. It would do you wise to remember that.
Good point! The arrogance of Obama has spread - to some. Its sad. I am with you.nm
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Sheesh - the arrogance of some people - New Englander
[ In Reply To ..]I am a New Englander and I wrote the message you replied to.
I'll tell you I can't stand these arrogant people who think they speak for everyone. Neither can my father, mother, sister, brothers, cousins, aunts uncles, in-laws, co-workers and friends.
Not everyone in New England voted for him.
And then to come out with the idiotic statement that the polls are showing approval of the bill. She must be trying to convince herself. And no proof on her part....imagine that.
Sometimes it's not a good thing to mimick the person you worship. The arrogance should end with her Dear Leader.
New Hampshire is in a class by itself....sm - VTMT
[ In Reply To ..]No state income tax, no sales tax, no required car insurance, but they voted for Obama along with the rest of New England.
You all seem to forget - Not every single person
[ In Reply To ..]living in New England voted for Obama.
There are many that did not.
Just wait when all the clueless people out there - standing with their hands out find
[ In Reply To ..]they have to BUY insurance! I talked to someone today who had no clue. They were furious when they knew that fact.. My God, what sheep we have following Obama to the slaughter.
You are so right! Heard one sayit's like - anon
[ In Reply To ..]Christmas.
Yeah, wait til the reality bites them...they ARE clueless.nm - MN
[ In Reply To ..]nm
Is that the one who was in line for her Obama money - tired of payin 4 freeloaders
[ In Reply To ..]Transcript
KEN ROGULSKI: Why are you here?
WOMAN: To get some money.
ROGULSKI: What kind of money?
WOMAN: Obama money.
ROGULSKI: Where's it coming from?
WOMAN: Obama.
ROGULSKI: And where did Obama get it?
WOMAN: I don't know. His stash. I don't know. I don't know where he got it from but he's giving it to us, to help us. We love him. That's why we voted for him. Obama! Obama!
No, this is a different one, just happened, a guy. - anon
[ In Reply To ..]N/M
"Free" Health Care - disgusted
[ In Reply To ..]CSPAN, during a lull in the proceedings, was taking calls from viewers. I was amused to hear many (pro and con) speaking of "This free healthcare."
Same here! - Sam
[ In Reply To ..]Thank you Mr. President!! The polls speak for themselves!
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