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Westboro Baptist Church Protest


Posted: Dec 12, 2010

Thank heavens most of the media did not cover this. They are vile, ignorant people. It's bad enough they protest soldiers funerals, but now they were protesting Elizabeth Edwards death!

Where will all this end? I see the Supreme Court is hearing Snyder's case. Pray he wins the appeal. This is not freedom of speech, it's warped rabid hatred of Phelps' ideas of religion.

As one commented on the website, "What does the Baptist Convention think of this?" Another wrote "Why don't the Baptist Church speak out about this?" I'd like to know the reason why, too.

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Kansas-based Westboro Baptist Church will be dispatching members of its congregation to protest the funeral of Elizabeth Edwards this Saturday, CNN reports.

The church has generated controversy with its confrontational and offensive demonstrations. "God Hates Fags" has become an unofficial calling card of the group, a phrase they say the world "needs to hear more than it needs oxygen, water and bread." Another Westboro sign, "Thank God For Dead Soldiers," is frequently displayed at military funerals and has created its own share of outrage.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/09/elizabeth-edwards-funeral-westboro-baptist-church_n_794333.html

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Good for the counter-protestors:

Update, 5:15 p.m.

One of the Facebook pages organizing the counter protest went down for a few hours Friday afternoon. The Raleigh News & Observer reports that it apparently crashed after 20,000 people shared the invitation on Facebook. Facebook said it was looking into the matter.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/blog-post/2010/11/westboro_church_meets_its_matc.html

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On the Snyder case:

Sean E. Summers, who represents Snyder, set the tone with his first words to the justices.

"We're talking about a funeral," he said. "If context is ever going to matter, it has to matter in the context of a funeral. Mr. Snyder simply wanted to bury his son in a private, dignified manner."

Summers faced tough questioning from the justices about whether the funeral was actually disrupted by the protest, whether public speech could ever be curtailed because of the objections of the listener and, from Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, how a group could be sued for damages over actions that were lawful.

But even Ginsburg, the justice who was most skeptical of Summers' arguments, noted the unpleasantness of the group's actions.

"This is a case about exploiting a private family's grief and the question is: Why should the First Amendment tolerate exploiting this bereaved family when you have so many other forums for . . . getting across your message?" Ginsburg asked Margie J. Phelps, the founder's daughter, who was representing family members.

Phelps replied: "When I hear the language 'exploiting the bereavement,' I look for: What is the principle of law that comes from this court?"

She said that the court has set limits on what public places a person can visit to "deliver words as part of a public debate," and that as long as those are respected, "this notion of exploiting, it has no definition in a principle of law that would guide people as to when they could or could not."

Nearly all of the justices referred to the group's noxious practices; a sampling of the signs carried at Snyder's March 2006 funeral at St. John's Catholic Church in Westminster, Md., included "God Hates the USA/Thank God for 9/11," "Semper Fi Fags," "Thank God for Dead Soldiers" and "Priests Rape Boys."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/06/AR2010100603950.html?nav=emailpage

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Fred Phelps - sm

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The lamestream media supports this idiot. What I would like to know is why doesn't Al Gore who had associations with Fred Phelps, a registered democrat, come out and openly denounce Phelps.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2010/07/18/major-media-companies-side-vicious-protests-military-funerals-god-hates-

Hm-m-m Wonder if that's why the one media that - Backwards Typist

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did cover the WBC protest mentioned that Al Gore was at the funeral. I wondered why they singled him out with all the dignitaries there.

Because it is a nonexistant association - trumped up by conservative bloggers

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The WBC even picketed Gore's father's funeral.

Not according to Wikipedia - sm

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_phelps
Would a good friend picket your father's funeral? - sm
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"By 1998, Gore will be seen as such an enemy by WBC that its members picket the funeral of Gore's father."

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2001/spring/a-city-held-hostage/fred-phelps-timel#

Here is another nonexistent association - sm

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http://hillbuzz.org/2010/12/11/questions-is-fred-phelps-a-democrat-is-westboro-baptist-a-democrat-organization-why-did-fred-phelps-and-westboro-baptist-picket-elizabeth-edwards-funeral-on-december-11th-2010/
Same thing as Hugo Chavez saying he and - GW Bush were "comrades"
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Good grief. Bush had pictures taken with Dick Cheney, too. Does that mean Bush is associated with the evil Cheney? Oh yeah, I guess he is. Put them in jail!

I think they missed judge not lest ye be judged. - as to the Baptist convention...

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this church is not a member. They are of the "primitive" Baptists acc to their website. Since only like-minded people are part of that sect, I suppose that is why they won't renounce it (other "primitive" Baptists). The mainstream media are not going to put on Christians decrying this. I have seen pictures at soldier's funerals where Christian churches have picketed in front of or right next to Westboro renouncing them. Do not if that happened at Elizabeth Edwards' funeral.
It SHOULD have.

A man in PA sued Westboro in civil court and was awarded a ton of money but it was overturned in appeals court saying to deny the "religion" from protesting anywhere was infringement on free speech. I think it goes to the Supreme Court next.

Read my last link. That's exactly where it is now. - Backwards Typist

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...and I hope the court finds the first judgement correct. To protest at a funeral is not freedom of speech and those signs are definitely hate-filled.

The government arrests people for hate crimes. WBC should not be above the law. If they are allowed to protest at military funerals, who's funeral will be next? One of our loved ones just because we don't hold their dame beliefs?

I applaud those who went to N.C. to counter the WBC at Elizabeth Edward's funeral.

I agree - sm

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Furthermore, make it as uncomfortable as possible where ever this hatemongering group goes. In my opinion, the people of McAlester, OK did the right thing, too.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20101114_11_a12_cutlin105145
Great News, although slashing tires is vandalism - Backwards Typist
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I don't condone the vandalism part, but I think it's funny that they were refused service except at Walmart. I'm glad people are finally putting these jokesters in their place.

Hopefully, the rest of the country will band together when they hear of a protest coming to a town near them. This gives them a "taste of their own medicine" and I hope they enjoy it.

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