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Tea Partiers Protest Clean Water Rules Meant To Prevent Bladder Cancer


Posted: Nov 12, 2010

These goofy, goofy tea baggers. Let them get bladder cancer.

WASHINGTON -- An attempt by a Kentucky water district to raise rates in order to meet clean water regulations has become political, with a local Tea Party organization stepping in and arguing that the county should simply ignore federal rules.

The Northern Kentucky Water District is seeking a 25 percent rate increase by January 2012, and according to The Kentucky Enquirer, a major reason for the raise is to comply with U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) regulations that are meant to prevent bladder cancer by "requiring that water utilities nationwide improve their treatment of drinking water to eliminate byproducts left over after chemical disinfection."

"The standard that we have to meet as to whether our water is safe or not is based upon the regulations that are set under the Safe Drinking Water Act and that are administered through the (Kentucky) Division of Water," said Northern Kentucky Water President and CEO Ron Lovan during a hearing last month. "Is our water safe? Yes, we feel it's safe based upon the current regulations. ... That's the standard that we've got to meet."

The EPA, however, is the arch-nemesis of many conservatives, who believe that it overreaches and imposes unnecessary regulations on states, localities and businesses.

But according to Lovan, if the local water district refuses to comply, it could face up to $25,000 per day in fines, the leadership could go to prison and the state Division of Water could possibly step in and take over. He added that the EPA regulations have been in the works since the 1990s and had significant public input.

"It's been years in the making, it was a very public process that they (EPA officials) took a lot of input from a lot of interest groups all around the country," said Lovan.

"Whether the Tea Party folks believe that or not, it was a very open, public process before we got to the point where we are today."

During a hearing on the issue last month, Duane Skavdahl, an attorney representing the Tea Party group, lamented that "nobody will take on the EPA."

A Campbell County fiscal court judge recently told the Tea Party that if it was really concerned about the agency, it needed to take it up on the federal level. "What you're going to have to realize is that a federal mandate is the reason that we're involved in this conversation, and you're going to have to be talking to the federal people, and hopefully in a little bit different tone of voice and with different expectations than the way you're laying it out to us," said Judge Steve Pendery.

The Northern Kentucky Water District estimates that 80 percent of the $88 million increase is attributable to the new Safe Drinking Water Act regulations, but Northern Kentucky Tea Party member Garth Kuhnhein, who is a mining engineer, suspects that federal regulators were off on their cost projections.

According to the EPA, the regulations are intended to reduce not only bladder cancer, but also colon cancer, rectal cancer, and health risks to pregnant women and their fetuses. The Northern Kentucky Tea Party did not return a request for comment.

As The Huffington Post previously reported, Tea Partiers are increasingly getting active locally, with groups in Arizona protesting changes in trash collection and a mandatory recycling program.

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Yikes! Thanks! - - nm

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Where is the data to back this up? - sam

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Is there any data that drinking the water as is has ever caused even one case of bladder cancer? Or is only because the EPA "thinks" that it "might prevent bladder cancer?"

GIVE ME A BREAK.

And NO, I am not a tea party member. However, they have a point. I believe that the EPA should have firm, proven data that there is enough of a risk to impose sanctions on a local water district to have to raise the rates on the poor folks who can barely afford the rates AS IS.

So, I repeat: where is the data?

Exactly.. more desperate tactics... not working.nm - GetReal

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I don't think there any "tactics" here - just safety

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I am happy to know that there is safe drinking water. There are all kinds of toxins that we haven't discovered yet, and as we know more, we should act responsibly. I, for one, do not want to go back to the days when tobacco companies said smoking was safe and companies can dump whatever they want into the environment, sacrificing health for the sake of a profit.
All I want to know is did the EPA do studies and... - sam
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and do they have facts to support spending that kind of money? Remember, this is the same EPA that wanted to put belch meters on cows to see how much they were polluting the air.

As the other poster said...get real. It is not a bad thing to want to know if the data supports the cost. Go figure!!
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Wow. Thanks for your help. Actually, I thought... - sam
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the original poster might have those figures and could readily post...generally when research is done you have that on hand. Since none was forthcoming, one would assume the poster has none. At that point, yep, I will "look it up." So far, finding nothing, other than the Clean Water Act was passed in 1974, it is 2010, why are they jumping on this district now? It took them 36 years to figure out they were noncompliant?

Yes, it does bear looking into, and I am workin' on it. Thanks for the encouragement, though!
Okay, point taken. I guess we can expect you to post data to back up any article you - post from now on.
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It's just common to expect one to have that data handy when they post a news article. Right? lol
I did look it up. See below. Thanks again. nm - sam
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Here is some info - sm
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Here is some info Sam on what I found regarding North Kentucky, and what the citizens are pretty upset about. It has to do with the unfunded mandates of the infamous EPA. There are also other articles to go to from the Bluegrass blog.

HuffPo as usual puts their liberal spin on things to suit their purpose, which of course is always BS.

http://bluegrasspolicy-blog.blogspot.com/2010/10/contentious-water-rate-hike-brings-out.html
Here's the article from the local - news
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How can you trust any article..... - see message

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That has an opening line of "These goofy, goofy tea baggers". Whoever wrote the article has the utmost hatred towards "tea party members", and has no quams about calling them a filthy nasty name describing what men do with their private parts.

So my take is this is a personal opinion hit piece and unsure where he/she gets his information from. If he/she had started off the article just talking about the issues I probably would have read it, but when he/she starts in with hate, I just find no reason to read further because most likely it's just a bunch of lies and not worth my time.

Do you (or he/she) have any facts to back up what they wrote.

I for one don't believe tea party members are protesting something meant to prevent cancer. I'd like to get some hard facts on what the whole issue is. This just looks like a personal hate opinion hit piece that has no facts to back up what he/she wrote.

See article from local - news

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Thank you for both articles - sm

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From the looks of it, the tea bag quote on the first article, was not part of the article, but an editorial statement from the poster of the message. The article is still factual and verified in the KY article. It seems that there are so many who have such short vision and do not understand by cleaning up the water they are reducing health care costs and suffering by anyone drinking the contaminated water.

Also, I don't think the tea party people should get all high and mighty over people calling them tea baggers. They decided on their name and then wore those hats with the tea bags stapled to them. What did they expect?
In response to the last statement.... - sam
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They have the right to expect a bit of respect...I mean, the Dems' mascot is a donkey, so should the tea partiers be calling the Democrats jackasses as a routine? I myself have not seen that happening.

And I for one like "Tea Party." They got it from the first act of American citizens against taxation without representation. Remember throwing tea into Boston Harbor?

Actually it is a GREAT name. How about if you don't call them tea-baggers, others won't start calling Dems jackasses?

Seems fair to me.

As prompted by the "look it up" below.... - sam

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Here is a bit I found...very interesting.

A Tea Party organization in Northern Kentucky is stepping into an argument over costly compliance with DBP standards (more). The article relies on some common misconceptions related to the Safe Drinking Water Act and the EPA disinfection by-products standards including:

The rule is based on health science, however EPA says in their explanation of the rule, “based on the weight of evidence evaluation of the reproductive and developmental epidemiology data, EPA concludes that a causal link between adverse reproductive or developmental health effects and exposure to chlorinated drinking water or DBPs has not been establishedâ€Â¦Ă˘€ť (page 406).

■More recent studies (UNC) show water that contains disinfection byproducts (DBPs) at levels no greater than allowed by the federal Safe Drinking Water Act does not appear to raise a pregnant woman’s risk of delivering a low-weight baby or delivering prematurely (more).
■EPA’s Disinfection By-products rule has caused harm to consumers in small and rural water supplies (see reports from Oklahoma). A U.S. Senator raised these concerns 3 years ago with EPA, with no response.
â– Drinking water standards are a local issue and can be raised in local federal district courts (i.e. Portland to sue EPA over rule and the legendary Boston case in local federal court where EPA lost).
■EPA enforces this rule that causes states and local governments to declare that EPA’s rules mislead, confuse, and unnecessarily alarm the public (more).
â– EPA has states that they do not know what level of regulated chemicals in water are unsafe (more).
â– EPA has declared their rules are unfair for small communities (page 3) – “â€Â¦the current criteria are too stringent andâ€Â¦ unaffordable. After seven years of experienceâ€Â¦ EPA agreesâ€Â¦Ă˘€ť
â– The U.S. Government has selected EPA rules as a top priority to reform (more from SBA, and rural water testimony).
■A review of the water supplies’ compliance data did not reflect a specific level of contamination (more).

That should be food for thought to start. It just seems to me that the feds are going to be very sorry going forward that Obama woke the sleeping giant. Americans are going to start questioning EVERYTHING and so they SHOULD!

You forgot to add the link where the context can be found on - internal links

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Funny how things seem to be something completely different when taken out of context. eh?

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