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Rick Perry: Homosexuality is like alcoholism.

Posted: Jun 12, 2014

He thinks gay people should just fight the urge to be gay like alcoholics fight the urge to drink.

No really, he really thinks that.

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Finally a politician who's speaking truth! :) - Tina

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My feelings are legalization of it now, then down the road will be legalization of what NAMBLA wants and next, man and animals.

Marriage is between one man and one woman, so sayeth the Lord, and His word is the only word that matters.

And no, I don't hate anyone, including gay people, I just disagree with man trying (in vain) to rewrite God's word.

We don't base our laws on the Bible. - I get that's your personal feeling

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but it's a slippery slope when we start creating laws to support religious beliefs. We don't want Sharia in the United States.

As far as gay marriage leading to bestiality or children, marriage is a contract between 2 consenting adults. Do you think that's going to change? Do you think we're suddenly going to stop protecting children and animals because gay people got married?

I wonder what kinds of things people said would happen "down the road" when we voted to give women and black people the right to vote.

We've already stopped protecting children..... - Tina

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... since children are allowed to murder their unborn children (abortion) without having the consent of their parents.

You're correct...... - Tina

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I base my laws on the Bible. I am only concerned with what God thinks ... not man. Man won't get me, my loved ones, or friends into Heaven - nor can man save the world. Jesus is the one I strive daily to please.

Laws that affect an entire country shouldn't be - based on fairy tales.

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AMEN!!!!! - nm

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I couldn't agree more ...which is why Obama needs to GO! - Tina

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Clever. (NOT) You know I was talking about - "RELIGULOUS" fairy-tales.

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Such as all the dogma the whack-wing right throws our way. THAT religion.

So why is is okay to tell people to believe in God? - sm

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The laws of the land (which the Bible commands us to follow cover the commandments. If man can't get anyone into heaven how is it anyone's place to play God on earth?

As far as I know....... - Tina

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The only person "playing God on earth" is our president, but it is unfortunate that you believe a person who believes in God (the Trinity) is playing God on earth. If you read the Holy Bible, you'd get a thorough understanding of how that works and know that no one's "playing God" (save Obama) -- at this point in time anyway....

Folks who think they - know what God thinks

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often seem closed-minded to the fact that not everybody comes to the same conclusions about what that is (even using the same Book to prove their beliefs).

Marriage is between 2 consenting adults. - thankyouforbringingthetruthtotheboard

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Not animals and not children. Conjecture based on fears of bestiality and child molestation have no place in a conversation about gay marriage.

God is not our lawmaker. Follow God's law as you see fit, but know that he does not lead our country and we are not all of your faith. This is why are able to do things like get divorced, wear gold jewelry, use God's name in vain, save our own money and treasures as we see fit, speak in church as women, and practice medicine instead of prayer when we are sick.

God IS absolutely our law maker ... - Tina

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So you're saying it's not all right to discuss some types of perversity when discussing other types of perversity?

It's no secret that a large majority in our country (and the world) live down deep in the gutter, and it's getting more depraved by the day. I'm not just talking about homosexuality but people living together not married, people having babies out of wedlock, people getting divorced left and right, a vast majority addicted to drugs, murders (abortions) taking place daily, gun shootings occurring practically daily now, total violence run absolutely amuck, few morals, few ethics, a country being practically overrun by illegal aliens who are bleeding our country financially dry, a president in office who's doing everything in his power to degrade and destroy our country and making no apologies for kicking God straight to the curb, and the list goes on and on. And people wonder why our country's in the horrible mess it's in and why it's been reduced to the laughing stock of the world. In today's culture (for the most part) loyalty's just a tattoo, love's just a quote, and lies are the new truth, but on the bright side, many are aware of the truth.

This is the last post I'm going to make on this subject since my opinion's not going to change, yours won't either, and there's no point in beating a dead horse into the ground, but in case you were unaware, our country's currently under God's judgment, and it's only going to get worse. Next year should be very enlightening, indeed -- meaning a h_u_g_e shaking since His past many haven't gotten the attention of many. God said it would happen, and it's going to happen; otherwise, He would have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, and I believe His intention of doing that is zero.

Lastly, regarding the subject in my post, God IS our (man's) law maker. Man can say He's not until the cows come home, but He always will be because you see, His word overrides the mere word of man, and it always will.

In closing, God bless you (and yes … I really do mean that!) :)

Please just go to the Faith board. - sm

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This is the politics board, not the Bible study/God's wrath/Sharia board.

Directions.... - Tina

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If you'd like to go to the Faith board, the link's over to the left - almost at the bottom. All you need to do is take your mouse - hover over "Faith Board," click it - and boom ... you're THERE!

Um. YOU go there. Since you keep - talking about God.

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Faith in God in absolute - sm

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You have to have faith that he will deal with sinners as he sees fit. As mortals and Christians, we are witness to Him by leading OUR lives to please him, not to judge or tell others how to lives theirs.

God says to follow the laws of the land:

Romans 13 from the New Living Translation:
1 Obey the government, for God is the one who put it there. All governments have been placed in power by God. 2 So those who refuse to obey the laws of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow. 3 For the authorities do not frighten people who are doing right, but they frighten those who do wrong. So do what they say, and you will get along well.

I usually don't comment on dislikes but interesting some don't "Like" - scripture

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since it doesn't fit into the holier than thou position Republicans adopt.

Fits into the mold... Take things into your own hand rather than let God work.

LOL! - Tina

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For eons and eons, man has done all he can to "take things into his own hands," and look where's it's gotten him.

So you agree with me!! - thank you

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When mortals take things into their own hands rather than letting God tend to business on judgment day, we get things like across-the-board prejudice (i.e., piercings, tattoos, gay rights, civil rights, etc.), war (many in the name of religion), murder, and other atrocities (Hitler is a good example of trying to judge and take things into his own hands).

A civilized government exists to maintain law and order and keep its citizens safe, not to pass moral or religious judgements.

All in the name of religion. Ironic, huh? - H.A.

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What time is Sunday school over? - Getting Sleepy

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Amen, and God bless you also, Tina. - Michelle

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I support and agree with everything you wrote.

Thank you, Michelle...... - Tina

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God bless you and yours, too, and remember.......keep looking up!

:)

What about those who don't believe in God but lead more moral lives - than those who do?

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I do believe in God but a few members of my family do not. They are more moral and generous than many so-called "Christians."

Historically America was founded on religious freedom and freedom of prosecution and/or judgement for religious believes or lack thereof.

Your post is offensive and furthermore, IMO, does not belong in this forum which is of political context, not religious.

I know you mean well, but would it be okay for one who devoutly worships Satan (who does exist), come here and preach in the name of Satan in the context of politics? It would be legally acceptable since we DO have rights to worship whomever we want in this country as long as no legal/governmental laws are broken.

I'm sorry you find my post offensive ... - tina

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but guess what? I find your post offensive, too. I have no intention of apologizing for my opinion because it offends you. Sorry to be so blunt, but that's just the way it is.

P.S.: If you want to take it over to the faith board, I don't think you need me to tell you how to get there. :)

Then why stay? You're barking up the wrong tree. - Jess Sayin

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I didn't ask you to apologize. I respect your opinion - sm

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I am not trying to force my viewpoints on anyone, nor am I judgmental (as Jesus advocated). I'm not sure why you don't offer the same.

Unfortunately you appear not to respect or acknowledge constitutional rights of gays, people with tattoos, piercings, and those who do not believe in God.

When we espouse our religion as the ONLY accepted religion, our God as the ONLY God, and want to impose it politically, it reeks of an agenda by a German who is demonized by some and worshiped by others.

Again, please don't apologize. My prayers are with you. :)

He's not MY lawmaker, because I don't believe - he is real. Laws are made by PEOPLE.

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And, the bible was written by man. 100%. nm - sigh

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This discussion really belongs on the Faith Board. - nm

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Give it a rest....... - Tina

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I know you don't know this, but politics and faith oftentimes intertwine. Besides, it if we took it to the Faith Board, you'd just belly ache there, so what's the difference? You get to belly ache -- you should be happy!

That's what others have been telling you to do - for several threads, now. BTW, -sm

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according to our Constitution, although the country is based on freedom of religion, freedom FROM religion is also a freedom in this country.

And the "intertwining of politics and religion" is something the Constitution has tried to avoid. Look at all these Third World countries where religious zealots have taken over (or are currently TRYING to take over) their country's government. Look how well THAT'S turning out.

The fact that religious zealotry and bigotry turn out such narrow-minded individuals as yourself speaks volumes for not taking all that voodoo seriously. It's a crutch. It's a fairy tale. It's a fable. Nothing more.

HEY, MOD. - I have a question

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Why is this allowed on the political board, but the posts about the anti-government, politically driven shooters who killed police offers were removed??? Have you read this? It is not political.

For now, it's 2... - sm

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Some are now pushing for a 3- or 4-way marriage. While I don't agree with everything in Tina's post, there is some truth to it.

Yes, some of those people are extremely religious also. - sm

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Mitt Romney can tell you about these people pushing for 3 or 4-way (actually 7 makes a quorum, I believe, but I am not Mormon) plural marriages. Their LDS faith actually instructs them on this. Mitt Romney is a Mormon and believes in some of the same tenets these people who want plural marriages do, as they are from the same faith.

Now, if Mitt Romney were the POTUS, would I be trashing him with all kinds of colorful adjectives and adverbs and saying how he was trying to wreck the country, etc., because he is a Mormon and because he believes that the second coming of Christ will be in Jerusalem and then Christ will reign from there and also from Jackson County, Missouri? (video at around 8:05)

Ummmmmmm, No!

A person's faith and love of his country can coexist. Our Constitution protects all religions and does not promote one over the other. I am an Obama supporter but had Romney become the POTUS, I would wish him well and hope for the best for our country.

I was not referring to polygamy in the traditional sense. - SM

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I was referring to three women married to each other, three women and two men married to each other, etc.

Oh I see - Polygamy is A-OK

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As long as it's ONE man and however many women he wants, that's the only acceptable form?

Hmmm, that sounds a bit like, well, yeah, a harem. Whoops, Sharia law, Sharia law!

Besides which, "traditional" polygamy is illegal in this country, so obviously any form of marriage, even illegal forms, are okay EXCEPT same sex?

And that's okay to impose on the rest of us?

Your hostility is misdirected. - SM

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No where in my post did I say that I agreed with polygamy. In response to the poster who said marriage was between two consenting adults, I was merely describing what I've recently been hearing. If you want my opinion, I am against all forms of marriage that are not between one man and one woman. It is also my opinion that marriage other than that goes against God and nature. So there. Now you have something to get hostile about. Get a grip or get over it.

I beg your pardon - no hostility in that post

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Honestly, a little satire and pointing out inconsistency and you call it hostility? Not at all.

I am not hostile over your opinion either about 1 man 1 woman. I just happen to disagree with it. I have a very good grip, thank you very much.

I would dispute same sex marriage goes against nature, how so? As far as going against God, I would not know, I do not need religious crutches.

So how about you "get a grip or get over it?" (I have just copied EXACTLY what you said in your post so please don't whine to the moderator.)

Do you ever see... - sm

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...two male cows having sex? No, I didn't think so. That's what I mean about going against nature.

As for not having God in your life, I will pray for you. You may have the last word. I'm done with the likes of you.

I hardly think that is all - that marriage is about

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Do you?

The only thing that matters is if/how they have sex? Many "natural" married couples don't even have sex, so why is it so important?

A loving relationship is what marriage is about, a choice to commit to another. It does not necessarily have anything to do with the sex act.

As a matter of fact, two male animals will try, I have seen bulls in the paddock do this, so that is natural also.

You must not know much about cattle! LOL - (PS) - A cow is a female,

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an intact male is a bull, and a non-intact male is a steer.

E-I-E-I-O

I'm not from Green Acres. - SM

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Or Vermont or wherever cows moo. :-)

There is no such thing as a male cow. - :/ nm

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I think the Mormons beat you to that one. - Ciddi

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We have freedom of religion in this country. - sm

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That also includes freedom FROM religion being forced on those who may have different religious views.

Forced? - truth

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No religion is being forced on anyone in this country.

If you believe that, I've got some "gen-u-wyne" - Gucci handbags to sell you.

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Details please? - truth

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Instead of being flippant, please cite an example of someone being "forced" to believe in a particular religious faith in this country.

Just another politician out of touch with reality! - nm

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Oh, he's in touch all right, but sometimes truth bites when people live lies.... - tina

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Those glasses are not - fooling anybody

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That guy is dumber than a rock and corrupt to boot. Just my opinion, but I would not like to live in Texas with a governor like that, and I wonder what Texans were thinking keeping him in there all those years.

I am from Texas, and I have actually met the man. - sm

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I've met him on several occasions. He is a very nice man, but he's just not very intelligent and, IMO, would make a horrible leader for this country. That is my opinion.

Watch out, just because I don't like Rick Perry, somebody is now going to assign a whole laundry list of other "sins" to me that doesn't even know me or how I vote or anything else about me.

Let's talk "corrupt to boot," shall we? - Tina

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If you wanna' talk "corrupt to boot," let me direct you to the criminal who sits in our WH - you know, the slime ball who (1) lies/covers up/fabricates and deceives as necessary; (2) puts politics before our military; (3) keeps our borders soft on illegals; (4) nominates radical, liberal Supreme Court judges; (5) dismantles our military defense systems; (6) has destroyed health care for millions and turned his back on the VA's doings and those who died because of that; (7) refuses to speak in any place where the cross is hung; (8) negotiates with terrorists and undermines our nation's military and YOUR security (for which many have died and ARE dying); (9) spends money like a drunken sailor on steroids; and (10) does everything in his power to destroy you and your lifestyle (and that of your children and grandchildren) and the country you live in.

It all should send a chill up peoples' spines, but for some on this board, they'd rather wah-wah over a remark Rick Perry made. It screams loudly about their priorities and their morals and explains exactly why we have who we have as president.

So news flash: Before your very own eyes, the good ole' US of A is turning into a socialist country - a country who, for the most part, is void of all morality - wallows in vile (encouraged by our president) - doesn't have the backbone to stand up for itself or its friends - and is the complete laughing stock of the world. Pretty hideous! And to think of all those who died for this once-great nation or have come back from wars with missing limbs and head/body injuries sickens me.

I'm out of here for now because quite frankly, the level of stupidity I see on this board is appalling, but I encourage you to argue on with your friends who are outraged over Rick Perry's remark and those who are ripped because they aren't getting enough free food stamps, want another Obama phone (because they cracked it when they threw it down in a rage after learning they might have to take a pee test to get more Obama freebies and knew they wouldn't pass) etc., etc. Remember: Obama's counting on you (and others like you) to focus on the tiny picture and ignore the big picture - the one that's going to end up taking you down and under the rule of his terrorist buddies in the not-too-distant future, at which point you'll have no rights at all - including gay. The terrorists behead gays, but I'm sure you knew that already (?).

Have a nice evening .....

Boy - for such a good Christian

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You sure have a lot of anger at a lot of people, most of which I disagree with.

But, more importantly, what happened to love thy neighbor? Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me?

BTW, I love President Obama, and believe he is a great leader.

BTW also, I am not religious, yet I feel I am more of a follower of Christ than some "Christians."

I believe Jesus did exist and was a wonderful example of how to treat people and associated with all the lowlifes of his time, tax collectors, prostitutes, etc. He associated with them and loved them, did not judge them.

Peace to you.

I'm starting to believe maybe there's no such - thing as a "good" Christian.

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Certainly not in 'Merica, anyway.

Now here is a subject I can speak of with firsthand knowledge. - sm

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Some people just believe whatever they read. I am gobsmacked daily sometimes at the level of sheer ignorance I see in this country.

I actually can give an eyewitness account of exactly what this poster is talking about in one of the "issues." I actually looked into the eyes of the President of the United States who spoke at a memorial service in Waco, Texas, where several first responders lost their lives in an explosion. The President had gone to the opening of the George W. Bush Library in Dallas that morning and had then flown by helicopter over West and then to Waco in order to attend the memorial service of these men. I attended that ceremony in order to support some friends who lost their brother in the explosion.

President Obama was in a room full of people in a city in one of the most conservative states in the country, and people were genuinely glad he came and spoke. Some of them were even surprised but nevertheless grateful. It was a somber room full of people, as you might imagine, and there were Democrats and Republicans, but people put all the politics aside to honor these men. They all came together in that room for the common good, and believe me when I tell you there was not one single cross in that room when he spoke over the caskets of those fine Americans....

There were at least 100.

WOW! - sm

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You wrote:

"I'm out of here for now because quite frankly, the level of stupidity I see on this board is appalling, but I encourage you to argue on with your friends who are outraged over Rick Perry's remark and those who are ripped because they aren't getting enough free food stamps, want another Obama phone (because they cracked it when they threw it down in a rage after learning they might have to take a pee test to get more Obama freebies and knew they wouldn't pass) etc., etc. Remember: Obama's counting on you (and others like you) to focus on the tiny picture and ignore the big picture - the one that's going to end up taking you down and under the rule of his terrorist buddies in the not-too-distant future, at which point you'll have no rights at all - including gay. The terrorists behead gays, but I'm sure you knew that already (?)."

That sure doesn't sound very "Godlike" and especially not "Jesuslike."

Anyway, you keep promising to leave, but you never do! I find your posts to be very offensive. I think I'm still allowed to state my opinion, and hope that my post isn't deleted because I merely stated my opinion, as opposed to your posts, which more than one person finds to be very offensive.

Religious zealots are a cancer on civilization. - Not much hope for the world, I guess.

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No Worries......... This rube will never be POTUS - sm

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Everyone knows what happens when you elect a stupid Governor from the State of Texas as President of the United States.

That's not going to happen.

(I'm trying not to laugh because what's in the WH now is no laughing matter... - Tina

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Perry would be a thousand times better than what we have in the WH now: an American-hating Kenyan who's destroying the very country you live in, but you don't seem to get that because the things that are most important to you are gay rights, tattoos, piercings, legalizing drugs, etc., etc. ...things that are going to get you real far.... (and if that weren't so tragic, it would be absolutely hilarious!)

Actually, let's start with the premise that you don't know me. - sm

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Because: You don't know me. Those are the facts.

I posted a video of Rick Perry, and you jumped to conclusions, didn't you?

I do not support gay rights, hate tattoos and piercings, and....

Okay, it really doesn't matter. All you can learn from that post with the video is that I don't like Rick Perry. I will tell you what I absolutely don't support at all. I don't support somebody who doesn't know ANYTHING about me, and has no way of knowing anything about me except what I post, to come onto a website and judge me about all kinds of things like that laundry list you just gave on all kinds of issues, when all I did was post that I didn't like Rick Perry.

Please turn in your Bible to whatever pages it says not to judge other people and review them, please!

You don't know me.

Hmmmmmm.... - Tina

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First you make a post haha'g about what Perry said and couldn't believe he actually said it -- now you're backtracking.

Waffling on convictions isn't a good thing, you know. You're either for soemething or you're not, and I believe in your case, you don't know if you're coming or going, and if you do the direction which you're traveling, you're afraid to come right out and say it. Don't be afraid. This is just a message board - it's not like someone's hand is going to reach its way through your computer screen and knock some sense into you....

Doubling down on your judging of someone you don't know? - sm

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I only made 1 post with the video on it. In my post I say this rube will never be president, and I say why I think he never will. I didn't say anything more. There was nothing to backtrack on. I made the 1 post.

In one of your other posts, you say you strive to please Jesus every day. I'm not sure Jesus would approve of your judging people you don't know and have no way of knowing, then doubling down and judging them further.

But if you want to double down on judging me for posting that I did not like Rick Perry, go ahead, knock yourself out. I guess in your mind you are striving to please Jesus, and maybe that's exactly what Jesus would do.

To All Democrats: If this isn't the best - sm

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reason I've ever seen for VOTING, then I don't know what is!

You couldn't be more correct! - sm

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There are several others on this board who act as if they know a poster and then post preposterous things about that poster.

That kind of behavior, in my opinion, is an instant credibility-smasher!

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Now, they are attacking their own. I feel for Senator Graham. His sexuality is his business and no one elses.William Gheen, head of the conservative, anti-"amnesty," anti-illegal immigration group Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC), spoke at a Greenville, S.C. Tea Party rally this weekend and called for Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) to "come out of that log cabin closet."According to Gheen, being gay is "a secret that Lindsey Graham has." Gheen told the crowd: "I hope this secret it isn ...

Apr 23, 2010
Now, they are attacking their own. I feel for Senator Graham. His sexuality is his business and no one elses.William Gheen, head of the conservative, anti-"amnesty," anti-illegal immigration group Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC), spoke at a Greenville, S.C. Tea Party rally this weekend and called for Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) to "come out of that log cabin closet."According to Gheen, being gay is "a secret that Lindsey Graham has." Gheen told the crowd: "I hope this secret it isn ...

Feb 20, 2012
views on what he personally feels about when a baby is born, contraception, etc. Ya know, I get it folks, you hate the guy. It's so blatantly obvious with all the posts below. Post after post after post about his viewpoints on contraception, birth control, etc. Calling him names, etc. Do you all even realize how childish/immature you all sound. Yeah, yeah, flame away, the truth hurts. There is more to the election than how he feels about contracept ...

Jul 03, 2012
that would have required photo ID for first voter registration or to obtain an absentee ballot. Current ID law allows voters to sign an affidavit to vote a regular ballot if they cannot produce a photo ID. He didn't stop there. He also vetoed proposals requiring voters to affirm their U.S. citizenship before receiving ballots, and restrictions on voter registration drives mandating groups to undergo training by the secretary of state or local clerks. In another recen ...

Sep 17, 2012
Republicans will never have the smart people on their side. LOL http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/rick-santorum-tells-audience-smart-people-side-article-1.1161335 ...

Jul 12, 2012
Romney is going to blow this thing for sure. ...

May 27, 2015
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Oct 15, 2014
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