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Obamacare typo costs Vegas family $1.2 million


Posted: Aug 8, 2014

The same story is being reported at other sources, including "Faux" news, but apparently that is not to be believed. LOL

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What a spin - Insurance errors

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Insurance companies make errors all the time. It is never fun. Sometimes you are just not so lucky. It sounds like the problems are getting worked out.

Really made me laugh, though, when they said the family is dropping Obamacare. Oh yeah, they will be making too much to qualify. Yup, that is the way it works.

Oh no, an insurance company error! - If this were actually pertinent

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to Obamacare this might be interesting.

Thanks for posting this. - S/M

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I guess the two above posters were a little sensitive about this, but I feel it's good to be aware of these things and hopefully they can be prevented from happening again.

Uh, yeah, sort of the definition of our job - Pay attention to the details.

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I guess the above poster who called the other two posters "sensitive" - sm

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somehow actually thinks that the ACA invented medical insurance errors that never existed up until now and that "they can be prevented from happening again." LOL

Thanks Obama!

Wrong. - SM

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Misinterpret, spin, regurgitate back out. You completely missed the point.
Very nicely done. - sm
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You have just very succinctly perfectly described the Republican/Tea Party agenda since January 20, 2009.

When the Republicans and Tea Partiers aren't pointing the finger and blaming Obama, they're blaming each other and infighting and agreeing on nothing and therefore solving nothing. Biggest group of whiners, finger pointers, and infighters in Congress I have ever seen in my life.

It's the Pity Party.
Good one! - sm
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Glad you liked my description so much that you decided to use it yourself. Very original! I think they call that parroting. :-)
Surely you can do better than that. - ??
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I didn't "use" your description. - sm
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I simply made a comment about the words you posted, a fairly common occurrence that takes place on chat boards all across the Internet millions of times a day.

The words sound like the Republican/Tea Party agenda......... They still do.
Yes, to describe the donkeys. - nm
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-:)
Try not to feed the trolls. - sm
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That's what they're counting on.
Regurgitation is what the pubs do best. - Barf Bag Required
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There's that parrot again. - sm
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LOL

Obamacare cannot cost anyone anything - Obamacare is the law

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Let me explain. The Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare, is simply the law that requires certain things from the citizens and the people.

In this particular case, the insurance company, Anthem Blue Cross, made the errors and is having a hard time getting them fixed. Yes, it is going through the Nevada Exchange, but to blame the insurance company errors on the actual law itself is a bit uninformed.

An eventuality that we all fear. I have an idea... - just change your name

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to something Spanish and claim you are illegally in the country.

That was a bigoted remark. - No surprise here.

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Alinsky tactic to evoke an emotional response. If I - had said change name to German,

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the post would have been lost.
I don't think too many crossing the border are named - Hans, Otto or Wilhelm.
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Pointing out the obvious is not bigoted.

You can't state the obvious anymore without being - called a bigot. We are on

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a disastrous course with lax immigration laws and most people can see that.
It's called "race politics" and we need to find a way - forward around it. Pointing out
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Alinsky tactics is one way. It still works with some, but it's been overplayed.

The point is..... - Laura

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is trying to help a few people, just as many people have been hurt by Obamacare - the whole mess should be scrapped and start over - but then we would probably just dish out billions more to create another mess - can we just let this fade into the sunset and let people make their own healthcare decisions? The IRS hasn't even gotten involved in this yet - wait until next year!!!!

Start over with what we had before? Sure, that - really worked well, huh?

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And exactly what type of "plan" do the conservatives feel will work, without excluding 95% of the population?

Their plan is to let the poor and lower - sm

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class (that used to be HIGHER middle class) all DIE. It will speed up their ongoing program of wanting the top 1% to 2% to have ALL the money.

If I were in the top 2%, I'd start to worry about my lifespan.
Obama's plan - sm
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appears to have everybody on welfare and obliging to him. He and the Democrats are taking away all incentive to work hard. The American Dream is no longer alive and well under this president.
That's funny - I seem to be working twice as hard
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And making half as much. That has absolutely nothing to do with President Obama, absolutely everything to do with right wing policies of low wages, cutting benefits and worker's rights, giving tax breaks to millionaires, and being allowed to cut my salary because why not? No one will stop them and they need more money to buy more politicians and more yachts.

Please apply this ridiculous philosophy to yourself. There is no horde of welfare recipients and easy living food stamp users. They are mostly the working poor, just like we are. Get real.
Corporate theft of workers' wages is what's killing - work incentive. They/we get NOTHING.
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Ironic how so many praise Obama's use of legislative loopholes - for allowing illegals into the
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country but bash loopholes for corporations. Blinded by politics?
No, blinded by the MONEY that those human - sm
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greedy corporations and Wall Street manipulate so they can get out of paying their FAIR SHARE of taxes.

Blinded by the disappearance of the middle class.

Blinded by a do-nothing Congress that FORCES Obama to do what he has to do in order to try to keep things running.

Blinded by a Congress so excited about closing down the government.

And especially blinded by how people today must work TWO jobs to afford to pay their bills, and yet, they are STILL eligible to get food stamps.

Those are the FACTS, not politics, that are blinding me.
The American Dream came to an abrupt stop - under Bush, not Obama.
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I think he's done a marvelous job, considering the obstacles at every single corner by the Tpubs that he had to try to dodge.
Protest in Missouri indicates nothing has changed - since the Watts riot decades
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ago. Nobody can claim our unassimilated permanent underclass has made any progress at all in nearly five decades.

You can't blame Bush for that.
I know whenever there's an incident involving a - police shooting, I head
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straight to a retail outlet to start a fire and loot! (sarcasm)
Wait until all the businesses leave that area. I live in - Missouri, cable TV is not reporting
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this. They are looting every store that is at I-270 & West Florissant Rd. They are looting the Hibbett Sporting Goods Store now. Kmart, Office Depot, Walmart, Sam’s Club, etc. are all in this area and have been looted.
You might do that if you felt the police - were not protecting you
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And, in fact, were actually using all these new crazy gun toting laws and the overwhelming police state post 911 to seek out and kill certain people.

You have to admit, so many incidents involving young people of a certain race who are doing nothing but minding their own business or jay walking seem to end in them getting killed, and it seems like the police are doing the killing, so if that doesn't make you feel lawless, what would?

How would you like to be Trayvon's mother OR that young man's mother who just got killed in Missouri OR the one shot in the car for playing loud music?

I'm not saying it's right, but I can see why you would feel that the laws don't seem to be there for your protection but almost for your exploitation and precious little value is attached to your particular life.

Maybe the looting is a way of expressing the absolute disgust that every time this happens the cop/vigilante/whatever seems to get off scot free.
So looting and vandalizing people's place of business - is okay if you feel victimized?
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Nothing soothes the hurt feeling of an "unjust shooting" like looting a new big screen TV.
Twitter feed now calling for looting and robbing - white neighborhoods,
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so randomly attacking innocent people is justified?
I think both sides are wrong on this one. It was - absolutely unjustified and abhorrent that - sm
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a heavily-armed police office couldn't find another way to "subdue" an unarmed teenager. I believe part of the reason undue force was used was because of his race, and bad experiences the police often have in that regard.

Which is still not the fault of the race itself, as much as continued poverty, and prejudice against them. That in turn brings out inappropriate, violent actions because they don't know any other way, or just plain no longer care about the consequences.

By looting, they're "fouling their own nest" so to speak, because yes they WILL lose stores in their immediate area, and have to go further to buy necessities. Those businesses that remain will have to raise their prices to pay for theft, damage, and likely increased insurance rates.

And then the whole thing comes full circle again, because looting and rioting, whether justified or not, will just taint their cause, their neighborhood, or the race of the looters/rioters themselves, and further "justify" police overreactions and shootings of further unarmed people.

It's a vicious cycle, but in this particular instance, I think it's the police that have the power to break at least one chain in this cycle... that of shooting first and asking questions later.
So killing young people - for no good reason
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Is okay if you "fear for your life" which could mean anything?

If a policeman suspects the person of loitering while a particular race it is okay to kill them?

We see it happening again and again and, no, looting and vandalism is not the answer, but apparently the legal system is not either.

States' rights is nothing more than a code word for "okay to kill certain people" to me, and yes, I know it means more than that, but that is what it usually seems to mean in this context.

I don't think they are trying to "soothe hurt feelings" but maybe trying to make a statement that if the laws don't apply to them for protection, maybe the laws don't apply to them for enforcement against crime either.

Not true, of course, they will no doubt get prosecuted and jailed for their actions, but I can only see it happening more and more if these idiotic laws and police brutality/homicide cases keep coming out in favor of the killer and against the innocent bystander who just happened to be a particular race.

It's kind of what happens when the law seems to always go against you, looting might be a sort of revolution because why should you follow the law if the law does not protect you?

I'm sure many people do NOT loot and vandalize, but I have to think with such a slew of unfair verdicts you would not just be FEELING victimized, you ARE victimized and what on earth can you do about it?

Any ideas on that one? Since the law seems to provide absolutely NO protection for these people of color being killed.
Do we know the FULL story yet? - I have not heard it.
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I believe we're still at the pointing finger stage. Let's all calm down.
Nobody said that it was okay, but the mob reaction - is not okay either. In essence,
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rage is being taken out on innocent people.
A rabbi was murdered over the weekend in Miami Beach. You did not - see the Jewish Community
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in the city destroying private property. I don't see the headline "Rabbi killed, Jews rob Costco and burn down Walmart."

Now they are loading ATM machines on trucks and stealing just about everything they can get their hands on.

I read the officer charged was black, but I cannot verify it.
Was he shot by a policeman? - nm
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That does not justify burning down businesses and - looting, does it? NM
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Rage is being taken out on - innocent people
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I like that phrase.

You could, however, use exactly the same phrase about these killings of young people of color.

While we know these thugs who are looting and vandalizing will mostly be apprehended and detained, what about those who have perpetrated all these murders?

They have so far almost completely wiggled out of any prosecution and since some are policemen it seems hard to see them getting prosecuted.
Let's find out what exactly happened first. I'm not - condoning anything. nm
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Looting doesn't really help their cause. Meanwhile - Anonymous hacked into and - sm
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closed down that police stations website and internet connections. Now THAT I can agree with and relate to! Go, Anonymous!
The American Dream was falsely propped up by Frank-Dodd under Bush - and a Democratic Congress.
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Blaming Bush for everything will only get you so far. Obama needs to take some responsibility for his feckless leadership. Stop listening to the LSM. They make people look foolish and uninformed.
You got that right about the lifespan. Surprized - something hasnt already happened.
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They're making pretty obvious targets of themselves.

I think that's the point - they WANT to exclude them

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They were all happier when no one could get decent health insurance except the top income earners (or those lucky enough to be in unions or govt jobs), who really did not worry because they either had employers who paid for it all and it was tax free OR they could certainly afford it.

I remember the CEO of my MTSO (a few times ago now that has been swallowed up by a bigger one) bragging that he had the exact same insurance we had as MTs (obviously a lot were complaining about how bad it was, the typical MTSO insurance, high deductible, stingy copays, etc.).

He did not seem to realize that that was no badge of honor since he was no doubt making probably 10-20x what we were!
^5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - sm
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(Translation: "High-Fiving YOU!")

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